Kate I think I could be a grower and Debra will be around for a while.

I actually think most of the blokes are pretty useless. Philip would be my only tip to win at this stage out of the blokes.

Why Philip?

His negotiation skills were next to useless and he did nothing but moan throughout.

And Kate was cringeworthy!

Debra stands a chance.

He just seems like someone Sugar will like despite his failings, like that muppet that won last year.

I see - you're looking at it from Sugar's perspective?

Then I agree. Philip (like Alex last series) will be the poo that won't flush.

Why is Kate disliked , she hasn't done anything

Plus you can't declare someone useless based on a bad pitch , do you remember Lee's last year?

That's true - Claire too looked like a goner from the first few tasks..

Kate made me laugh with her pitch. Bloody terrible, but I think she can wing it for a bit longer. Debra has balls. She'll either go out in the next few weeks or stay til the bitter end I reckon. Depends what Sugar sees in her...

I'm not sure Kate's disliked. But she came across as rather clueless tonight.

True but people have been slating her since last week, even though since she was literally invisible.

Don't like rough guys do you, as Lee was the roughest of the lot, but I bet he could be depended on in an emergency, which is more than can he said for this years lot of wimps.

Didn't she have a fling with Philip in the house? Don't think that made her look very professional, hence the unpopularity.

Can't see how he could have done much better. The boys clearly did not research their price and started with a ridicilious figure. They had nothing of leverage to negotiate with. It was the poor research beforehand that made them look so amateur.

He did moan alot about the way they looked in the negotiations and the tackiness of the theme but I think he had good reason. It was a poorly thought out and executed project.

On the basis of what I've seen so far, I can't see any reason to dislike Kate. Debra, on the other hand....

What is "roughest"?

I thought he was probably the best of the last 4 but hiring one of them last year was more like "who's the least sh*te" as opposed to who's the best which was the case in the first 3 series.

I don't understand the Kate dislike either. Debra though ... I want her gone next week.

Kate comes across as a blame-shifter and a bit untrustworthy.... I dont think SAS will like her. However, she seems quite efficient so I think she will last for a while but won't win. The bad sales pitch was I think mostly due to Yasmina not giving her enough information.

Debra, I think SAS will like her. And she may get to the finals or even win.

Why on earth is Kate disliked? O right, shes good looking. ALmost forgot.

In fact whether you like it or not, it is pretty clear that Kate and Debra will reach the final 4. In fact, I think they could be the two finalists

I said the same about Ruth and Michelle, and Kristina and Simon