so she made some sandwiches wow great business sense there
she was lucky to win simple as that
she was lucky to win simple as that
Everyone missed the point tonight
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Originally Posted by robbies_gal:
“so she made some sandwiches wow great business sense there
she was lucky to win simple as that”
“so she made some sandwiches wow great business sense there
she was lucky to win simple as that”
Not sandwiches, wraps!
What I didn't like was that when the task was described the emphasis was placed on it being to provide a high quality service, but the method of identifying who the winner was didn't.
I reckon they should have ignored the lunchtime side of things; making lunches is a completely different market from high class reception catering.
Perhaps the receptions should have been for Sralan's business clients; the reception that generated the largest value of orders for Notamstrad could have been the winner.
I reckon they should have ignored the lunchtime side of things; making lunches is a completely different market from high class reception catering.
Perhaps the receptions should have been for Sralan's business clients; the reception that generated the largest value of orders for Notamstrad could have been the winner.
Originally Posted by cookie_365:
“What I didn't like was that when the task was described the emphasis was placed on it being to provide a high quality service, but the method of identifying who the winner was didn't.
I reckon they should have ignored the lunchtime side of things; making lunches is a completely different market from high class reception catering.
Perhaps the receptions should have been for Sralan's business clients; the reception that generated the largest value of orders for Notamstrad could have been the winner.”
“What I didn't like was that when the task was described the emphasis was placed on it being to provide a high quality service, but the method of identifying who the winner was didn't.
I reckon they should have ignored the lunchtime side of things; making lunches is a completely different market from high class reception catering.
Perhaps the receptions should have been for Sralan's business clients; the reception that generated the largest value of orders for Notamstrad could have been the winner.”
Good idea. With each team being given the same budget to work with.
I also believe the lunchtime segment was a waste of time and wasn't especially interesting to watch.
Originally Posted by robbies_gal:
“so she made some sandwiches wow great business sense there
she was lucky to win simple as that”
“so she made some sandwiches wow great business sense there
she was lucky to win simple as that”
God, you still miss the point. In terms of creating a business she was rubbish, but the task doesnt ask for that. Its all about making profit and winning.
She was as far from lucky to win as anyone has ever been. Her stategy to buy the cheapest, worst food she could, directly lead to her team winning.
Calling it 'lucky' is one of the worst points I have ever seen on this forum. Yes you can call her food rubbish and say you would never order from her but that was not the bloody point of the task!!!!!
Originally Posted by robbies_gal:
“so she made some sandwiches wow great business sense there
she was lucky to win simple as that”
“so she made some sandwiches wow great business sense there
she was lucky to win simple as that”
I agree she was lucky, especially as her sandwiches (wraps
) had practically no filling. What was with the woman that left the chicken out of the chicken wraps? That takes absent minded to another level, did she not notice she was wrapping up a slice of pepper and that was all? Madness.
Originally Posted by mimi dlc:
“They discussed the evening catering figures but were the lunch time sandwiches taken into account?
The men didn't get a contract but they seemed to be shiftingloads on the South bank”
“They discussed the evening catering figures but were the lunch time sandwiches taken into account?
The men didn't get a contract but they seemed to be shiftingloads on the South bank”
They took a total of £660, of which £375 came from the evening, so presumably they took £285 from lunch. They'd spent £640 on food so were hardly raking it in even without the theme.
The girls took £1006 in total, of which £500 was the evening, so presumably they took £506 from lunch. So they beat the boys there, too. Which is not surprising given that the boys weren't able to get contract deals for lunch and the girls were.
Originally Posted by maybe:
“Yasmina's team were praised for their presentation, customer service (at the event), efficiency and punctuality. The only thing they were criticised for was the quality of the food.”
“Yasmina's team were praised for their presentation, customer service (at the event), efficiency and punctuality. The only thing they were criticised for was the quality of the food.”
Agreed. I think the edit made her look worse than she was, by repeatedly stressing how poor the food was, to the point where I didn't know who was going to win. I now think she judged it brilliantly - she knew exactly what she could get away with. Getting a hair in the food isn't the end of the world if your customer relations are good.
Originally Posted by brangdon:
“They took a total of £660, of which £375 came from the evening, so presumably they took £285 from lunch. They'd spent £640 on food so were hardly raking it in even without the theme.
The girls took £1006 in total, of which £500 was the evening, so presumably they took £506 from lunch. So they beat the boys there, too. Which is not surprising given that the boys weren't able to get contract deals for lunch and the girls were.
Agreed. I think the edit made her look worse than she was, by repeatedly stressing how poor the food was, to the point where I didn't know who was going to win. I now think she judged it brilliantly - she knew exactly what she could get away with. Getting a hair in the food isn't the end of the world if your customer relations are good.”
“They took a total of £660, of which £375 came from the evening, so presumably they took £285 from lunch. They'd spent £640 on food so were hardly raking it in even without the theme.
The girls took £1006 in total, of which £500 was the evening, so presumably they took £506 from lunch. So they beat the boys there, too. Which is not surprising given that the boys weren't able to get contract deals for lunch and the girls were.
Agreed. I think the edit made her look worse than she was, by repeatedly stressing how poor the food was, to the point where I didn't know who was going to win. I now think she judged it brilliantly - she knew exactly what she could get away with. Getting a hair in the food isn't the end of the world if your customer relations are good.”
The girl was efficient, but I'd like to see her pitch an idea to a customer that doesn't just consist of buying as cheap as you possibly can, and pushing her "staff" into working hard.
She didn't exactly cater for her clients did she. I hope Sir Alan is looking for more than someone who can churn out a fast buck, but not get asked back to the party!
Originally Posted by seanvice:
“God, you still miss the point. In terms of creating a business she was rubbish, but the task doesnt ask for that. Its all about making profit and winning.
She was as far from lucky to win as anyone has ever been. Her stategy to buy the cheapest, worst food she could, directly lead to her team winning.
Calling it 'lucky' is one of the worst points I have ever seen on this forum. Yes you can call her food rubbish and say you would never order from her but that was not the bloody point of the task!!!!!”
“God, you still miss the point. In terms of creating a business she was rubbish, but the task doesnt ask for that. Its all about making profit and winning.
She was as far from lucky to win as anyone has ever been. Her stategy to buy the cheapest, worst food she could, directly lead to her team winning.
Calling it 'lucky' is one of the worst points I have ever seen on this forum. Yes you can call her food rubbish and say you would never order from her but that was not the bloody point of the task!!!!!”
She was lucky in the sense that the penalty was up to the consumer and the consumer might well have decided to pay nothing. It wasn't a carefully worked out strategy of what she could get away with - it was chance that she got away with it by literally a hair's breadth. The big thing going for her was that at least she had some idea and didn't get everything wrong like the boys team not that she had perfected the art of selling rubbish food.
Originally Posted by thenetworkbabe:
“She was lucky in the sense that the penalty was up to the consumer and the consumer might well have decided to pay nothing. It wasn't a carefully worked out strategy of what she could get away with - it was chance that she got away with it by literally a hair's breadth. The big thing going for her was that at least she had some idea and didn't get everything wrong like the boys team not that she had perfected the art of selling rubbish food.”
“She was lucky in the sense that the penalty was up to the consumer and the consumer might well have decided to pay nothing. It wasn't a carefully worked out strategy of what she could get away with - it was chance that she got away with it by literally a hair's breadth. The big thing going for her was that at least she had some idea and didn't get everything wrong like the boys team not that she had perfected the art of selling rubbish food.”
£600 profit v £200 loss is winning by a hair's breadth?
She wasn't lucky. She had a plan, she costed it, she produced it - not perfectly because she was working with a team who were not trained in food production and were always going to make catering errors. The edit will have shown the worst bits and the clients actually praised the way the girls organised and hosted the event.
If I'd have been her I would have suggested making the bruschetta smaller and getting about four or five out of each one of the huge ones they made - nicer to look at, easier to eat and more profit. I also would have changed the garnish from massive chunks of lettuce to something slightly daintier
Originally Posted by vidalia:
“£600 profit v £200 loss is winning by a hair's breadth?
She wasn't lucky. She had a plan, she costed it, she produced it - not perfectly because she was working with a team who were not trained in food production and were always going to make catering errors. The edit will have shown the worst bits and the clients actually praised the way the girls organised and hosted the event.
If I'd have been her I would have suggested making the bruschetta smaller and getting about four or five out of each one of the huge ones they made - nicer to look at, easier to eat and more profit. I also would have changed the garnish from massive chunks of lettuce to something slightly daintier”
“£600 profit v £200 loss is winning by a hair's breadth?
She wasn't lucky. She had a plan, she costed it, she produced it - not perfectly because she was working with a team who were not trained in food production and were always going to make catering errors. The edit will have shown the worst bits and the clients actually praised the way the girls organised and hosted the event.
If I'd have been her I would have suggested making the bruschetta smaller and getting about four or five out of each one of the huge ones they made - nicer to look at, easier to eat and more profit. I also would have changed the garnish from massive chunks of lettuce to something slightly daintier
”
Hair's breadth, trod thin line, call it what you will. She was extremely lucky because she took a very big risk on providing shoddy food for a discerning audience. You could say that she only got away with it because she was aware that the clients knew the TV cameras were there, so wouldn't turn them away. However, it was still a big risk, and while risk is part of business strategy, you do need to cater according to your clients, or you could lose everything.
Originally Posted by seanvice:
“Calling it 'lucky' is one of the worst points I have ever seen on this forum.”
“Calling it 'lucky' is one of the worst points I have ever seen on this forum.”
Hardly.
She was very lucky that she got paid anything at all for the disgusting rubish she served at the catered event.
I'd love to know how Siralan persuaded those two companies to be used for guinea pigs for his proto-executives.
What about the quality of the boys' food? It looked terrible as well. People were leaving it on tables.
I also think that the programme concentrated on the (admittedly terrible) chunks of bread and blinis (that weren't) from the girls, but didn't show us the other offerings. Had they all been terrible, they would probably have been docked more money.
The fact is, Yasmina took total control of the costings. I imagine the food would have looked better and tasted better had she had more skilled chefs. For instance, fine juliennes of veggies and tomatoes would have made the canapes look more attractive.
She was on time, organised the team, was polite and wasted nothing.
I think she did a cracking job.
I also think that the programme concentrated on the (admittedly terrible) chunks of bread and blinis (that weren't) from the girls, but didn't show us the other offerings. Had they all been terrible, they would probably have been docked more money.
The fact is, Yasmina took total control of the costings. I imagine the food would have looked better and tasted better had she had more skilled chefs. For instance, fine juliennes of veggies and tomatoes would have made the canapes look more attractive.
She was on time, organised the team, was polite and wasted nothing.
I think she did a cracking job.
Originally Posted by peely:
“Hair's breadth, trod thin line, call it what you will. She was extremely lucky because she took a very big risk on providing shoddy food for a discerning audience. You could say that she only got away with it because she was aware that the clients knew the TV cameras were there, so wouldn't turn them away. However, it was still a big risk, and while risk is part of business strategy, you do need to cater according to your clients, or you could lose everything.”
“Hair's breadth, trod thin line, call it what you will. She was extremely lucky because she took a very big risk on providing shoddy food for a discerning audience. You could say that she only got away with it because she was aware that the clients knew the TV cameras were there, so wouldn't turn them away. However, it was still a big risk, and while risk is part of business strategy, you do need to cater according to your clients, or you could lose everything.”
You could also say the boys were lucky to have the cameras there. I mean, they failed to get any lunch orders and sold theirs on the street.
Who would buy sandwiches from a group of lads on the street? The fact that there were cameras there and it was probably obvious it was the Apprentice must have given them their sales.
She wasn't lucky at all. Even if she didn't get a single penny from the agreed total she still would've won with around a £260 margin
Originally Posted by hopeless case:
“You could also say the boys were lucky to have the cameras there. I mean, they failed to get any lunch orders and sold theirs on the street.
Who would buy sandwiches from a group of lads on the street? The fact that there were cameras there and it was probably obvious it was the Apprentice must have given them their sales.”
“You could also say the boys were lucky to have the cameras there. I mean, they failed to get any lunch orders and sold theirs on the street.
Who would buy sandwiches from a group of lads on the street? The fact that there were cameras there and it was probably obvious it was the Apprentice must have given them their sales.”
Yes, don't think my objections to the girl's teams food production performance in any way means that I think the boy's did better. They most certainly did worse.
It's also true that if you ignore the food quality Yasmina did do an excellent job so I think the result was correct. I just can't see how an experienced restaurateur could come up with such gunk.
Originally Posted by Tern:
“Yes, don't think my objections to the girl's teams food production performance in any way means that I think the boy's did better. They most certainly did worse.
It's also true that if you ignore the food quality Yasmina did do an excellent job so I think the result was correct. I just can't see how an experienced restaurateur could come up with such gunk.”
“Yes, don't think my objections to the girl's teams food production performance in any way means that I think the boy's did better. They most certainly did worse.
It's also true that if you ignore the food quality Yasmina did do an excellent job so I think the result was correct. I just can't see how an experienced restaurateur could come up with such gunk.”
Fair point
A quote from an article I read regarding Week 2:
"Nevertheless, the purpose of the task was not to make good food. It wasn’t to make friends or secure long term business. It was to make money. Siadatan, restaurateur or not, had no qualms feeding her clients reconstituted chicken to bring home the bacon."
Source: http://www.realbusiness.co.uk/560750...ts-fired.thtml
"Nevertheless, the purpose of the task was not to make good food. It wasn’t to make friends or secure long term business. It was to make money. Siadatan, restaurateur or not, had no qualms feeding her clients reconstituted chicken to bring home the bacon."
Source: http://www.realbusiness.co.uk/560750...ts-fired.thtml
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