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Howard is gay
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Agent F
02-04-2009
That article is hilarious.

"Nobody had a problem with it!" As if they're somehow surprised that someone's sexual orientation was not objected to. Ridiculous.
lou-kate
02-04-2009
Originally Posted by football socks:
“why cant it be phil, hes fit, i would.”

Really? Phil? The gay community are welcome to Phil I reckon, you would be doing all women a favour if you purloin him for the pink side.
Sidespin Nid
02-04-2009
Originally Posted by Chubbler:
“That because she is a lesbian ”



I remember her saying she wasn't and that was something her husband or ex boyfriend had done to try and make some money off her back.
Mr_Predictor
02-04-2009
Originally Posted by Sid_1979:
“The 'let it go' comment wasn't meant to be directed at yourself, more at at the media and their obsession with outing individuals.

We've come so far over the years in making homosexuality socially acceptable. Indeed, so many of our favourite celebrities are gay. But by treating the word 'gay' like a label and regarding homosexuality as something that needs to be exposed and treated as something that acts as a hindrance to a person, articles such as this undo so much of this hard work.

And I still maintain that 11% is quite a large proportion of people who share something in common. We're talking millions.”

I actually agree with everything you're saying. However, the 11%. Yes, it is millions we are talking about. But millions, out of a possible million billion people there are in the world. It is a large number. But not a large proportion. There are far greater proportions in other preferences like people's favourite colour.

Anyway im going off topic.

The only reason I brought this article up was because it was to do with the apprentice, was reltaivley controversial, and gave an insight in a contestant's background. Not because, I feel the need to exploit people lol.
And I know your comments are directed mainly towards the media but if someone starts a thread over an article regrading someone's homosexuality who cares?? If you dont care dont bother commenting. If people do want to discuss it then feel free. He went on the apprentice and is therefore going to be discussed
Jamie181
02-04-2009
If he is gay then I don't have a problem with it being discussed.

We get stories about the private/sex-lives of the other Apprentices so I don't see how this should be any different. People need to stop getting so touchy over such things.
LightWork
02-04-2009
Originally Posted by sarahcs:
“I think it's relevant that peole say it doesn't matter. It's as newsworthy as saying "Howard wears shoes".”

Give a bit more credit: it's probably as newsworthy as saying he's left handed, I'd say.
LightWork
02-04-2009
I just started reading the article and it reminded me why I don't read that kind of crap... this is totally my opinion, but it's probably the lowest level bottom-of-barrel crap I've read in a long, long time. I can't believe people think this way.
gallous_boy
02-04-2009
Originally Posted by Mr_Predictor:
“http://www.newsoftheworld.co.uk/show...candidate.html

I thought he was. Mind you I also had a hunch Rocky was. Probably because he's good looking haha”

Thats disgusting, he should never have been allowed on the show, totally wrong for a gay lord to be allowed on a great show.
lady_xanax
02-04-2009
Originally Posted by Agent F:
“That article is hilarious.

"Nobody had a problem with it!" As if they're somehow surprised that someone's sexual orientation was not objected to. Ridiculous.”

News Of the World sounds like it was written in the 1960's or something.
sharon curtis
02-04-2009
Originally Posted by gallous_boy:
“Thats disgusting, he should never have been allowed on the show, totally wrong for a gay lord to be allowed on a great show.”


He's a member of the aristocracy as well . Honestly, the people they let onto these shows .

If you are serious, get a life.
elpaw
02-04-2009
They're wrong about him being the first openly gay contestant, wasn't that South Afrrican from series 3? Forgotten his name sorry...
Mr_Predictor
02-04-2009
Originally Posted by elpaw:
“They're wrong about him being the first openly gay contestant, wasn't that South Afrrican from series 3? Forgotten his name sorry...”

Lohit
elpaw
02-04-2009
Originally Posted by Mr_Predictor:
“Lohit”

That's the one cheers

I wish Ben was gay though mmmmm
Andrew80
03-04-2009
Ben is a **** - money better than sex - lol people limping around Belfast for saying less than that


Howard is hot - glad he is gay

Philip - the str8 community can keep with our compliments
tabithakitten
03-04-2009
Originally Posted by LightWork:
“Give a bit more credit: it's probably as newsworthy as saying he's left handed, I'd say.”

Yep, that's far more logical.

H****d a contestant on the popular tv show "The Apprentice" is actually left handed. Friends of the "cack-handed" would-be entrepreneur have stated that he has never tried to hide the fact and that his family all know and are fully accepting.

In a further scoop, the Daily Bogroll can reveal that J***s is actually a vegetarian although he does occasionally eat fish (so is, therefore, not a vegetarian at all even though we're devoting a large amount of our paper to telling you he is and making a big deal of it even though we're pretending not to). His friends and family all say that they've been completely aware of the fact for ages and couldn't give a stuff.
ferox1
03-04-2009
Originally Posted by Sid_1979:
“The 'let it go' comment wasn't meant to be directed at yourself, more at at the media and their obsession with outing individuals.

We've come so far over the years in making homosexuality socially acceptable. Indeed, so many of our favourite celebrities are gay. But by treating the word 'gay' like a label and regarding homosexuality as something that needs to be exposed and treated as something that acts as a hindrance to a person, articles such as this undo so much of this hard work.

And I still maintain that 11% is quite a large proportion of people who share something in common. We're talking millions.”

As a gay person myself I disagree.

I think stories like this serve to actually MAKE homosexuality more widely known and socially acceptable. As more and more "normal" people are then discovered to be gay, it really does help break down barriers and eliminate stereotypes.

I would have a problem if someone in the closet is outed (i.e. the case of Nick Brown MP who clearly didn't want his sexuality known) but in this case Howard seems to be fairly open about his sexuality.

The article itself is also (IMO) very sympathetic and likely to thus instill support amongst people reading the article.

So I think things like this are good for gay rights - you're correct, it does have an element of making it seem "different" and something to talk about, I also hope for the day when stories like this aren't "news". But in today's society they are, so the more stories like this appear the more gradually acceptable and "normal" it will be become and THEN they'll eventually stop. Not having stories like this at all will slow down this happening.
flowers786
03-04-2009
I knew he was gay..........And why is he the first openly gay person? Wasn't Ruth Badger a lesbian?
Jamie181
03-04-2009
Originally Posted by flowers786:
“I knew he was gay..........And why is he the first openly gay person? Wasn't Ruth Badger a lesbian?”

I don't think she was out when she was on the show.
football socks
03-04-2009
your all forgetting james max from season 1 or was it 2, now talksport and lbc presenter.
Mr_Predictor
04-04-2009
Originally Posted by flowers786:
“I knew he was gay..........And why is he the first openly gay person? Wasn't Ruth Badger a lesbian?”

That was a lie made up by her ex to make cash

Lohit (Series 3) and James (S1) wre both openly gay. Actually not sure about James being openly gay but Lohit was as he mentioned this in the programme "The Final 5"
Evilredzebra
05-04-2009
That's relatively interesting for me as my gaydar is pretty good and I didn't have a clue. Beyond that, irrelevant. I thought he did well in the Boardroom this week and was spot on saying Rocky had brought the wrong people in with him. That said, going back to the house with the same announcement was either genius or suicide - haven't decided which yet!
tiggerkev
06-04-2009
Originally Posted by lou-kate:
“It never even occurred to me that Howard was gay and I am quite surprised, but then I was about George Michael too, I have no gaydar at all. Maybe because I don't care, it isn't something I think about.

I feel a bit bad for Howard, I wouldn't like my sexuality discussed rather than my personality, it is insulting. But I guess all of them will have any details of their lives that the press consider titilating revealed at some point, they all know the score.”

I could tell pretty much straight away - my gaydar is finely tweaked!

I also think he's HOT!!!

oooh! Come to Mama! lol
carolineglasgow
08-04-2009
Originally Posted by sarahcs:
“I think it's relevant that peole say it doesn't matter. It's as newsworthy as saying "Howard wears shoes".”

Well said, Sarah!
floopy123
08-04-2009
Oh boy. I cringed when I read that item. Nothing wrong with being gay but does he have to make such a song and dance about it? (rolling my eyes) And as people have mentioned, Ruth Badger was open about her lesbianism. She was the classic stereotype of a lesbian - all butch, acted like a guy, and with as much sex appeal as mouldy lettuce. I'm sure many lesbians have sex appeal but er.. not Miss Badger.
cookie_365
08-04-2009
Originally Posted by floopy123:
“Oh boy. I cringed when I read that item. Nothing wrong with being gay but does he have to make such a song and dance about it? (rolling my eyes) And as people have mentioned, Ruth Badger was open about her lesbianism. She was the classic stereotype of a lesbian - all butch, acted like a guy, and with as much sex appeal as mouldy lettuce. I'm sure many lesbians have sex appeal but er.. not Miss Badger. ”

'Making a song and dance about it'? Can't see any singing or dancing in any of the articles linked to. Or do you assume that anyone who doesn't pretend to be straight is 'making a song and dance' about being gay.

It's a good job straight people never admit to having partners of the opposite sex. Or allow themselves to be pictured with their children.
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