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Old 02-04-2009, 20:29
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Can now get the above on my sky HD box

All I need now is something to watch on it:yawn:
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Old 02-04-2009, 22:28
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so do freesat viewers for Free and we can set-up a epg recording you can't with the $ky hd box

with $ky anything you record your only renting, soon as you cancel your sub you loose all your recordings
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Old 02-04-2009, 22:37
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so do freesat viewers for Free and we can set-up a epg recording you can't with the $ky hd box

with $ky anything you record your only renting, soon as you cancel your sub you loose all your recordings
On Sky HD you could watch and record channel 4HD without an HD subscription, which you can't on freesat, so enough of the petty remarks
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Old 02-04-2009, 22:46
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so do freesat viewers for Free and we can set-up a epg recording you can't with the $ky hd box
I am sure even I will be able to schedule my life to watch the champions league live next Tuesday - nothing worth watching before then (although I will test it out tomorrow evening at 9pm)
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Old 02-04-2009, 23:15
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On Sky HD you could watch and record channel 4HD without an HD subscription, which you can't on freesat, so enough of the petty remarks
Playback is only allowed m8 if you have a sub lol

once you cancel down, channel 4HD will be available but you won't be able to record :P

without a sub it becomes a dusty doorstopper

I can watch and record channel 4hd on my humax for free though

and i'm not renting what I record either
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Old 02-04-2009, 23:33
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Why do threads involving Sky and Freesat have to degenerate into a "my box has more channels/can record more than yours" slanging match? If you only want a few HD channels, then go with freesat, if you want more, then sky is for you. Now ITV HD is becoming avalible on Sky HD boxes, albeit just to view and not record, it just means that Sky uses need not bother with Freesat
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Old 03-04-2009, 08:21
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Agreed, both offer different levels of choice to suit everyone's budget, no need for threads to invoke a reaction or responses to fuel it!
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Old 03-04-2009, 09:10
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Enough already, stop !!!!

Not another Sky vs Freesat flame.

This is the Freesat+ forum, to discuss issues of interest and pertaining to Freesat+ PVRs, of which there is only one - the Humax Foxsat HDR. Certainly nothing to do with Sky HD boxes.


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Old 03-04-2009, 09:51
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I can watch and record channel 4hd on my humax for free though

and i'm not renting what I record either
How do you watch and record Channel 4hd on your humax?

I have both and am only keeping sky for 4hd - if I can get 4HD on my humax then sky is history in my house!
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Old 03-04-2009, 10:10
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How do you watch and record Channel 4hd on your humax?

I have both and am only keeping sky for 4hd - if I can get 4HD on my humax then sky is history in my house!
He uses a cam and a freesat from sky card.
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Old 03-04-2009, 15:56
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He uses a cam and a freesat from sky card.
I have a regular sky card. Will that work?
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Old 03-04-2009, 16:43
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either Dragon CAM or diablo cam will work

you have to stick (none sub) sky card into a regular box every now and again ( we normally do that every 3 - 4 weeks for a few hrs )

but it works no problem

google them or theres a load on ebay around 60 - 70ish
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Old 03-04-2009, 17:21
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either Dragon CAM or diablo cam will work

you have to stick (none sub) sky card into a regular box every now and again ( we normally do that every 3 - 4 weeks for a few hrs )

but it works no problem

google them or theres a load on ebay around 60 - 70ish
It may work at present BUT there is a very good chance that the new cards from Sky being issued this month onwards will NOT work in Dragon/TRex or Diablo CAMs. The latest release of Sky Italia NDS cards DO NOT work in them yet and it is suspected that the new Sky UK NDS cards will have the same restriction.

So to anyone thinking of buying a CAM to use Sky cards I would strongly recommend waiting until people have received the new "white" cards and reported success with them in CAMs before spending upwards of £50 on a CAM which may well not work for what you want in a month or twos time.

I will post back here as soon as I have received my new Sky viewing cards and tried them in my Dragon/TRex CAMs in my non Sky boxes. I mainly use my Sky cards in CAMs for holiday use with my camping satellite dish.
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Old 03-04-2009, 17:37
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having today just recieved and installed humax freesat pvr i am very dissapointed at the lack of channels available , i actualy visited this forum this minute to see if there was anything about c4hd (as in the tv guide says a place in the sun home or usa is in hd , but when i tried to set it to view it is not available in hd !) and the first thread i see includes comments about c4, why is c4 , which gets some funding from the licence fee only available on sky ?= we are paying twice !!!
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Old 03-04-2009, 17:51
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having today just recieved and installed humax freesat pvr i am very dissapointed at the lack of channels available , i actualy visited this forum this minute to see if there was anything about c4hd (as in the tv guide says a place in the sun home or usa is in hd , but when i tried to set it to view it is not available in hd !) and the first thread i see is about c4, why is c4 , which gets some funding from the licence fee only available on sky ?= we are paying twice !!!
Channel 4 HD is NOT a subscription channel, it is an encrypted FTV channel that requires either a FreesatFromSky (one off purchase) or Sky subscription viewing card and a Sky HD box (or CI equipped receiver and CAM at present).

The reasons for this include
1 Restricting access to the UK for rights issues - there is not at the moment transponder space available on the restricted footprint satellite Astra 2D
2 Sky have apparently subsidised them to a certain extent and provided facilities for them to broadcast, without which they would probably not be on air at all yet.

If you are that disappointed perhaps you should have done a little more research on the limited channels on freesat before making your purchase as this has all been well posted across the internet since before freesat launched. The situation will change eventually but when is NOT known at present.
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Old 03-04-2009, 17:53
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having today just recieved and installed humax freesat pvr i am very dissapointed at the lack of channels available , i actualy visited this forum this minute to see if there was anything about c4hd (as in the tv guide says a place in the sun home or usa is in hd , but when i tried to set it to view it is not available in hd !) and the first thread i see is about c4, why is c4 , which gets some funding from the licence fee only available on sky ?= we are paying twice !!!
It is basically because at the moment Channel 4 HD is on the Astra 2A satellite, which has a wide beam so it cannot go FTA. It may be possible that it will go FTA but it will require ITV to allow some BBC and possibly Five channels onto their transponders on Astra 2D.
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Old 04-04-2009, 00:11
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CORRECT ME if i am wrong but the advert on itv the other states itv hd is avalible on freesat ONLY
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Old 04-04-2009, 00:14
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CORRECT ME if i am wrong but the advert on itv the other states itv hd is avalible on freesat ONLY
Technically correct, as it isn't on the Sky EPG, so not officially available on the Sky platform.
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Old 04-04-2009, 09:08
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CORRECT ME if i am wrong but the advert on itv the other states itv hd is avalible on freesat ONLY
Perfectly true, ITV HD isn't available on Sky, just as Luxe HD (for what it's worth) isn't available on Freesat - but both can be tuned in on non-Freesat and non-Sky modes, giving a certain amount of crippled functionality.
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Old 04-04-2009, 09:14
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:why is c4 , which gets some funding from the licence fee only available on sky ?= we are paying twice !!!
Channel 4 receives no funding from the TV licence fee. The TV licence funds only UK BBC TV and radio services. BBC World Service TV and radio are funded by a foreign Office grant.
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Old 04-04-2009, 11:35
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Why do threads involving Sky and Freesat have to degenerate into a "my box has more channels/can record more than yours" slanging match? If you only want a few HD channels, then go with freesat, if you want more, then sky is for you. Now ITV HD is becoming avalible on Sky HD boxes, albeit just to view and not record, it just means that Sky uses need not bother with Freesat
Let's be fair here, the OP started it. Look at me, look at me, I can now watch one of the channels that Freesat supporters banged on about when arguing over the merits of Freesat+ ove Sky+.

When Sky stop forcing you to subscribe to their service so that you can use the box you bought for what it is, a PVR, then and only then can the Sky+ people have a pop at the Freesat+ people. Of course without more and more people taking up the Freesat+ option the chances of Sky changing their policy is nil.

Well done to everyone who has bought a Freesat+ box, we'll win the battle eventually.
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Old 04-04-2009, 15:03
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Let's be fair here, the OP started it. Look at me, look at me, I can now watch one of the channels that Freesat supporters banged on about when arguing over the merits of Freesat+ ove Sky+..
My point was - there is little to watch on itvHD - a fact unfortunately

Of course without more and more people taking up the Freesat+ option the chances of Sky changing their policy is nil..
Correct, however with little HD content, most people won't desert sky for freesat+HD


Well done to everyone who has bought a Freesat+ box, we'll win the battle eventually.

Pots and black kettles come to mind - time to leave the platground and watch rugby in glorious HD
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