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Following on from my thread about my Sky+ box. I have now decided to upgrade to HD.
I have a budget of £600 and would ideally like 40"+, i do watch a fair bit of sport and movies so will LCD or Plasma be better. It will also be used for Wii sports and some occasional use for the PS3. Anyone got any recommendations of which makes to go for? Mike |
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Don't go for Plasma as the tube life is not as good as LCD. The LCD TV's have tuble life of 50 years but the Plasma's only have tube life of 20 years.
I would go with LCD as if you hit a LCD it won't make a mark but if you hit a Plasma it will leae a mark plus if you stay on a channel that has a ident and you have a Plasma TV and leave it for so long it will create a burn in but with a LCD it doesn't make a burn in. I would recomend a LCD rather than a plasma as they are better picture and sound quality. |
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Don't go for Plasma as the tube life is not as good as LCD. The LCD TV's have tuble life of 50 years but the Plasma's only have tube life of 20 years.
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I would recomend a LCD rather than a plasma as they are better picture and sound quality.
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I would stick with a 37" LCD as 40" + is a plasma
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Don't go for Plasma as the tube life is not as good as LCD. The LCD TV's have tuble life of 50 years but the Plasma's only have tube life of 20 years.
Plasma panels do this more than LCD panels, but the ratio isn't as high as you suggested. Quote:
I would go with LCD as if you hit a LCD it won't make a mark but if you hit a Plasma it will leae a mark it's a common failure mode - I've only seen ONE Plasma smashed in that way, and probably seven or eight LCD's (one which was smashed with a pool cue in a pub).Quote:
plus if you stay on a channel that has a ident and you have a Plasma TV and leave it for so long it will create a burn in but with a LCD it doesn't make a burn in. Quote:
I would recomend a LCD rather than a plasma as they are better picture and sound quality. As a general rule I would say LCD is better for HD and Plasma for SD. |
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Isn't discussion of plasma vs LCD against the forum rules?
![]() Here is some good impartial advice: get a 5 year guarantee! If you don't you may be faced with a hefty repair bill 13 months down the line. This is why John Lewis is still a popular choice for TV buyers, despite being more expensive than online retailers and some supermarkets (whose exclusive model numbers make it impossible to get JL to pricematch against them). Of course you could get one with a 1 year guarantee then sue the retailer under the Sale of Goods Act if the TV goes awry shortly after the guarantee expires. Not many people do this, though. |
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Don't go for Plasma as the tube life is not as good as LCD. The LCD TV's have tuble life of 50 years but the Plasma's only have tube life of 20 years.
I would go with LCD as if you hit a LCD it won't make a mark but if you hit a Plasma it will leae a mark plus if you stay on a channel that has a ident and you have a Plasma TV and leave it for so long it will create a burn in but with a LCD it doesn't make a burn in. I would recomend a LCD rather than a plasma as they are better picture and sound quality. Now for the truth... "Tube Life" I assume you mean panel? Modern plasma sets have an estimated lifespan of around 100,000 hours. So, even assuming it's on 8 hours per day, that's a life of 12,500 days (or just over 34 years). "Screen Burn" Whilst still possible, you would have to be really abusing a plasma to manage any permanent screen burn. As stated by Nigel, above, they are more susceptible in the first 200 hours or so whilst they "age" a little, but even then you'd need a static image displayed on retina searing "dynamic" settings for a lengthy period to have any cause for concern. Image retention is more commonplace but this rapidly disappears after just a few minutes of normal TV watching. "LCD's Superior S&V" The type of panel has absolutely no effect either way on the sound quality (hint: I'd look at the quality of the set's speakers for that one!). Vision is much more a personal thing, there is no wrong and right. My personal preference is plasma as I feel it gives a more natural image (IMHO), others may prefer the brighter appearance of an LCD, that's their choice. The only real way of deciding is to watch properly set-up versions of both using material relevant to your normal viewing habits and then you can make an informed choice. |
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"Tube Life" I assume you mean panel? Modern plasma sets have an estimated lifespan of around 100,000 hours. So, even assuming it's on 8 hours per day, that's a life of 12,500 days (or just over 34 years).
The panel is highly unlikely to last anywhere near that long, as it's probably going to fail long before it wears out. |
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Like I said above, it's not the estimated 'lifespan' of the panel, it's the estimated number of hours before the panel is 'worn out', defined as the point where it's too dark to be useable.
The panel is highly unlikely to last anywhere near that long, as it's probably going to fail long before it wears out. |
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I have one of these and am very happy with it, it is the same panel as the next model up the "V" with a different surround and one less HDMI connection, it has a superb picture on standard definition, I havent put a HD source through it yet but I am sure it will be very good, when I do.
Thanks for the comments, do you watch a lot of sport and movies. I really dont know whether to go LCD or Plasma
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Contrary to the misinformed advice here...
1. Current Plasmas have a lifespan of 100,000 hours- before brighness decreases by half. Much longer than LCD's where the tubes cause backlight differences. (IF THAT REALLY MATTERS TO YOU) 2. Plasmas still offer best PQ, motion, contrast and colour 3. Plasmas can be found in small sizes from 32" and 37" 4. Sound quality is actually better on Plasma as the screen sizes make it easier for larger speakers. also the 37" plasma i have has much better sound than the older 32" LCD. (BUT AGAIN DOES THAT MATTER) If you live vivid unnatural colours, backlight bleed, blueish blacks, motion & contrast issues go for LCD. |
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Thanks for the comments, do you watch a lot of sport and movies. I really dont know whether to go LCD or Plasma
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I cant help you choose LCD or Plasma thats up to you mate, I do watch a lot of sports and movies and I havent seen any motion blur or ghosting as some people experience with SD on an LCD, I have a Phillips 5990 DVD player which upscales to 1080p and IMO the picture is superb.
Thanks for the input mate. I'll have a another quick look around before making a decision. Mike |
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The problem is that no amount of advice from individuals or reviews is going to help. I went around all the local retailers and looked at over 150 different LCD and Plasma TVs before eventually making my decision based upon what looked best to me.
I ended up avoiding all TVs with so-called picture enhancement features that couldn't be manually disabled as I like a pure, unadulterated image. This makes the image look more natural to me but may make the image look less natural to others. Only you know what you like, and nobody else knows what that is, so get out there and do some leg work. It may take you several frustrating weekends to find what you like, but you have to live with your decision, so you won't regret making the effort in the long-run.
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The problem is that no amount of advice from individuals or reviews is going to help. I went around all the local retailers and looked at over 150 different LCD and Plasma TVs before eventually making my decision based upon what looked best to me.
I ended up avoiding all TVs with so-called picture enhancement features that couldn't be manually disabled as I like a pure, unadulterated image. This makes the image look more natural to me but may make the image look less natural to others. Only you know what you like, and nobody else knows what that is, so get out there and do some leg work. It may take you several frustrating weekends to find what you like, but you have to live with your decision, so you won't regret making the effort in the long-run. ![]() Of course, I understand that the final decision is mine but a bit of guidance about where to start looking is helpful. |
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...a bit of input about whihc models to look at or have a good reputation is invaluable.
Of course, I understand that the final decision is mine but a bit of guidance about where to start looking is helpful. |
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it's a common failure mode - I've only seen ONE Plasma smashed in that way, and probably seven or eight LCD's (one which was smashed with a pool cue in a pub).