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Vincent&Kristina new couple?.
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Psychosis
12-04-2009
Originally Posted by coolman:
“Dont like how Susan is being picked on about speaking out. Vincent put their relationship public last year by doing an article about his 'New Love'. He did an article a couple of weeks ago about looking forward to becoming a dad and last week Susan had to read that she was dumped and jilted. Has anyone up to now ever read an article by Susan? She seems to have kept in the backround. Through no fault of her own her love-life has been in the public eye and she has been humiliated. I totally do not blame her at all for putting her side of the story across - especially regarding the circumstances! I also do not think she said anything bad against Vincent. Looks to me like she totally loves him.”

If it's wrong for Vincent to speak out, how is it right for Susan to speak out? It's wrong for either of them She's lost the moral high ground now.
missfrankiecat
12-04-2009
Originally Posted by coolman:
“Dont like how Susan is being picked on about speaking out. Vincent put their relationship public last year by doing an article about his 'New Love'. He did an article a couple of weeks ago about looking forward to becoming a dad and last week Susan had to read that she was dumped and jilted. Has anyone up to now ever read an article by Susan? She seems to have kept in the backround.”

http://www.londonderrysentinel.co.uk...ome.4850579.jp

One of several articles over the past few months apparently initiated by Susan. Hardly the People or the Mirror I'll grant you but then she wasn't newsworthy independently of the man she was dating at the time. The truth is none of them can resist talking about their personal lives in the press.
sueh21
12-04-2009
I think possibly the most shocking thing in all this mess is that V and S in a fairly new and on V's side obviously not totally committed relationship 'were not using contraception'

Idiots!
Xassy
12-04-2009
Originally Posted by sueh21:
“I think possibly the most shocking thing in all this mess is that V and S in a fairly new and on V's side obviously not totally committed relationship 'were not using contraception'

Idiots!”

Jeremy Kyle would have a field day with them!
missfrankiecat
12-04-2009
Originally Posted by sueh21:
“I think possibly the most shocking thing in all this mess is that V and S in a fairly new and on V's side obviously not totally committed relationship 'were not using contraception'

Idiots!”

Totally with you on that!
Psychosis
12-04-2009
Originally Posted by Xassy:
“Jeremy Kyle would have a field day with them! ”

LOL!

Meanwhile the rest of us sit at home, tutting about how Jeremy Kyle gets on the most idiotic, moral-less people in society.
coolman
12-04-2009
Whos business is it if they were or were not using contraception! They discussed children. Anyway this can not be blamed on just V or just S - a joint thing. Makes me laugh the way woman always get the blame for 'falling' pregnant. I read somewhere V wanted to 'try' after the tour anyway. Picked up on someones point about V and S living across water from each other. He can hardly be the great dad he says he is going to be when he cant drive to see his child! Plus if he is on Strictly and the tour how can he pop away for a weekend to see the baby. Poor Susan, I think she is going to end up alone and will have to bring the baby up on her own. Disgraceful how any man can put their career and lifestyle before his own flesh and blood.
tricksy80
12-04-2009
Originally Posted by coolman:
“Whos business is it if they were or were not using contraception! They discussed children. Anyway this can not be blamed on just V or just S - a joint thing. Makes me laugh the way woman always get the blame for 'falling' pregnant. I read somewhere V wanted to 'try' after the tour anyway. Picked up on someones point about V and S living across water from each other. He can hardly be the great dad he says he is going to be when he cant drive to see his child! Plus if he is on Strictly and the tour how can he pop away for a weekend to see the baby. Poor Susan, I think she is going to end up alone and will have to bring the baby up on her own. Disgraceful how any man can put their career and lifestyle before his own flesh and blood. ”

Yea he probably should quit his job and move to be near Susan and the baby and have no income to support them/money to pay rent...
Psychosis
12-04-2009
Originally Posted by coolman:
“Poor Susan, I think she is going to end up alone and will have to bring the baby up on her own. Disgraceful how any man can put their career and lifestyle before his own flesh and blood.”

This isn't so much a comment about V/S as it is about my general hypothetical situation.

If I got pregnant, I wouldn't give a crap about "flesh and blood". I'm not ready to stop having me time. I'd want my career much more than I'd want my life to be over with a kid. It'd be straight to an abortion clinic for me.

Sometimes (and again I'm not talking about V/S here because I don't know the specifics) I feel sorry for men. If a woman doesn't want her kid, it's not up to the man... she'll just go and get rid of it. If a man doesn't want the kid, he can't make the woman go and get rid of it.
lemonnlime09
12-04-2009
I agree coolman it is a joint thing to make a baby........susan and vincent both never used contraception.....if Vincent had not been ready for a baby because of his career he could have made sure he used something,rubbish for people to claim anyone can be tricked into having a baby.
carol north
12-04-2009
Originally Posted by coolman:
“Whos business is it if they were or were not using contraception! They discussed children. Anyway this can not be blamed on just V or just S - a joint thing. Makes me laugh the way woman always get the blame for 'falling' pregnant. I read somewhere V wanted to 'try' after the tour anyway. Picked up on someones point about V and S living across water from each other. He can hardly be the great dad he says he is going to be when he cant drive to see his child! Plus if he is on Strictly and the tour how can he pop away for a weekend to see the baby. Poor Susan, I think she is going to end up alone and will have to bring the baby up on her own. Disgraceful how any man can put their career and lifestyle before his own flesh and blood.”

Agree with you there very good comments.
-string-
12-04-2009
Originally Posted by Psychosis:
“If it's wrong for Vincent to speak out, how is it right for Susan to speak out? It's wrong for either of them She's lost the moral high ground now.”

Yes pity the poor child who is going to google his/her parents' names in 10 years and find this lot. Very maternal.
oxygenjj
12-04-2009
so from the title of the thread are they a couple V & K ??
Psychosis
12-04-2009
No. There appears to be no couple at all.
katmobile
12-04-2009
Originally Posted by hollytops:
“What a sorry state this has all become.

A couple of weeks ago there was excitement on the thread that Vincent and Susan were a couple expecting a baby. At first I was surprised, because although I knew Susan was his girlfriend and had seen her in the audience several times during SCD6, I had no idea that the relationship was serious.

The excitement has been short-lived because of subsequent revelations spreading through the various Red Tops.

People will have their own opinions on who is to blame and what is acceptable but the fact remains that Susan is pregnant and Vincent knowingly had an affair with Kristina.

Whatever the outcome, I don't forsee a fairytale ending. At such a special time of life which is the joy of impending parenthood, the trust has been irretrievably broken.

Once the line has been crossed, however much you try and repair the damage, it is never the same.

My sympathy is for the baby.”

I agree and also with Susan who will have to raise it either knowing that her partner could (and quite possibly will) stray again or on her own. I hope she has a supportive family. I also wonder if Kristina was strung along as well.
lemonnlime09
12-04-2009
Originally Posted by oxygenjj:
“so from the title of the thread are they a couple V & K ??”

No Vincent has told the people he needs to be single and concentrate on his career....looks like both women have been strung along.
<3Anton<3
12-04-2009
There is no argument that what V & K did was wrong, and in all honesty, both of them have gone right down in my estimations and I won't be voting for them this year, regardless of their dancing.

*Sorry! I'm one of those really annoying people who vote for personality*

I do feel sympathy for Susan and her situation. BUT, my main concerns are for the baby.

Anyway, (and I'm probably going to get a whole load of flack for this, but I don't care) I think Vincent's coming off relatively lightly in all this-well on here anyway- and I know for a fact, that if it had been one of two other individuals in the male pro ranks, there would be MUCH more name-calling and abuse being thrown about than there has been about Vincent.
Psychosis
12-04-2009
How is he coming off lightly? Nobody is being nice
lemonnlime09
12-04-2009
Originally Posted by <3Anton<3:
“There is no argument that what V & K did was wrong, and in all honesty, both of them have gone right down in my estimations and I won't be voting for them this year, regardless of their dancing.

*Sorry! I'm one of those really annoying people who vote for personality*

I do feel sympathy for Susan and her situation. BUT, my main concerns are for the baby.

Anyway, (and I'm probably going to get a whole load of flack for this, but I don't care) I think Vincent's coming off relatively lightly in all this-well on here anyway- and I know for a fact, that if it had been one of two other individuals in the male pro ranks, there would be MUCH more name-calling and abuse being thrown about than there has been about Vincent.”

Totally agree.
<3Anton<3
12-04-2009
Originally Posted by Psychosis:
“How is he coming off lightly? Nobody is being nice ”

Nobody's being that unpleasant either
Rubydoll
12-04-2009
Originally Posted by Psychosis:
“How is he coming off lightly? Nobody is being nice ”

Totally agree with you on that. Vincent along with Brendon and James comes in for a lot of flack.
Psychosis
12-04-2009
Originally Posted by <3Anton<3:
“Nobody's being that unpleasant either”

He's been called despicable, disgusting, and a prick. What do you want people to do? Push pins into his eyes?
jjackson42
12-04-2009
Interesting that there's no active Kristina thread!! (apart from this one)

JJ
<3Anton<3
12-04-2009
Brendan, James and Anton get the most flack on this forum
Xassy
12-04-2009
Originally Posted by jjackson42:
“Interesting that there's no active Kristina thread!! (apart from this one)

JJ”

You mean an appreciation thread?
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