Ben totally lead the product development and the product was laughably awful.

I know this is just an entertainment show, and clearly Alan knows more about making money than I do, but his judgement on who should be fired is wrong more often than not.

James should have gone for doing f*ck all.

Any of them could have gone.

Ben was primarily responsible for the product and it was not good.

James has been in the board room three times and has a poor trackrecord. A failure as PM could have sealed his exit.

Madge has done nothing and sounds incredibily complacent on you're fired now.

Overall Madge going does not disappoint me.

Disagree. Obviously we don't see everything that goes on, but I didn't see him maknig many errors. Mags was a bit of a shadow as well.

Ben clearly wanted to step up to the plate and take the lead ... and he lead the team into a dreaful failure.

He's actually been in twice out of three weeks and this week he was project manager so he went in by default.

I felt he deserved to go in last week, but I really didn't thnk he was the weak link this week. I think blaming the loss of a task on the project manager all the time is unfair.

thats because he didn't do anything.

I don't like Ben either, don't get me wrong, but in this instance, I think he was the least likely to be fired.

It was a really good idea but why on earth they didnt take more notice of the design just doesnt make sense I posted in another thread it almost looked homemade black wood?
that should have been white resin with purple or green interlaced and maybe a halfmoon design instead of just a box.
It really doesnt say much for them that so little thought was given to how it looked..

I'd rather do nothing and leave no mark, than push to the front and make a complete balls up ... but we've obviously all got different opinions.

I disagree. I think it was the right decision for Ben to stay. At least he got involved with the task in the hand, unlike Maj who just seemed to not contribute anything.

The product did look awful though, like an unattractive black box! At least he made the effort though.

Maj was the only one entertaining me - despite his meagre air-time.

Ben and James don't entertain me whatsoever. Am I alone here?

I don't think Ben should have gone either. He has passion and enthusiasm and the willingness to put his head on the block, whereas too many of the others have none of those qualities. He should have been managed correctly and others should have had input into the idea and design, which would and could have happened had he been reigned in a little and not just had the responsibility handed to him because he was the only one that had any ideas or could be arsed to get something done.

Ben's initial idea was great. Maj ruined it by saying they should have extra bits which over-complicated it.

Was that Maj that wanted the extra bits? If so, he was the one that killed the product then imo. If they had stuck with the original bingo wings idea, then it could have been ok with the right design. But then it comes down to lack of management, leadership and overseeing of the product by the PM, too many cooks and all that.

sorry ben should have gone it was his design and his concept and it didnt work

maj as useless if nice

James did push himself to the front when he said he was going to be PM...and then proceeded not to project manage at all. If you are in charge of the task you can't then remove yourself from the decsion making process in it's entirety.

And clearly it isn't just you and me that differ on this, is it?

Ben should have gone foe designing a piece of crap and for being a knob.

Forgive my short memory - what were the "extra bits"? Just the pully-things?

James did nothing, and as he was in such a big role, that cost the team dearly. Maj couldn't have done made such a bad mark though. He did his job, a smaller one, but firing him was such an easy option. I don't think he was sitting on the fence. James was doing this more so with his "I'm out there for everyone, you're all great" approach whilst knowing that what was happening was wrong. Yes, others noticed, but it was up to the PM to stop this happening really, and he didn't do anything. James should have gone.

That's a thought, what the hell did James do?

Yeah, I think Ben should've gone. I think he messed up more than James, plus, James is enourmously entertaining!

Ben deserved to go to the least of the three for actually doing something in the task.

The only reason James was kept is for the TV factor, he comes out with all this crazy sh!t in the board room, gets overly emotional and the producers think its good tv.

Ben was never going to go and didnt deserve to - he was the only one in the task who did anything. The only one who came up with an idea and the only one who had any drive and enthusiam. He basically took over the PM duties cause James didn't have the balls to step in when needed. Yes the idea idnt deliver in the end but he was the only one on the team willing to give something a go.

Madge took another back seat on this task but it was his first time in the bottom two and he wasnt the PM. He should have been given the chance to prove himself as PM and if he failed then got rid off.

As i said James was kept in for tv purposes only, god knows why people would find him entertaining!!!

I'll miss Maj!

Ben is trying too hard to 'entertain.' I can't help feeling he's come with a set of pre-prepared lines and wise-cracks that he's determined to force into conversation or to the cameras. He's trying to be controversial.

Having said that, he was the only member of the losing team to generate ideas and show any enthusiasm. If the product had been received favourably he'd have been a hero.

Ben was the only one who was really pushing forward his ideas, so I don't think he deserved to go. Plus he held his own in the boardroom.

Either James or Maj could have been fired really. Both of them are useless, but James seems to care more about the job than Maj did, which probably helped swing it for him as well as what Margaret had to say.

Tbh though, I don't think a double or even a triple firing would've been a bad decision.

Maj did nothing.
James did nothing, but WAS the team leader, so should've been leading the group, which he didn't do.

Totally with you on this. I get the feeling Ben's trying hard to come off as "the funny one" but instead is coming off as a bit bitchy and unpleasant. I didn't find his rabbits' noses/arseholes comment amusing in the slightest - and even sitting-duck target James couldn't inspire a good one-liner in him. Poor effort on the entertainment front IMO.

But yes, he did have enthusiasm and was by far the most-featured candidate in this episode ('cept perhaps for screen-hog Debra).