Sorry if its been asked before but do the companies know its all pretend? Did John Lewis ask for exclusivity knowing full well the product wasn't ever going to production?Or will Sir Alan have all rights to any good ideas the teams come up with?
What happens to all these products/orders?
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Yes, where's my "Guitar amp with reverb springs" and "porta-pottie". 
(Not THAT much worse than some of the early Amstrad stuff though?)
(Not THAT much worse than some of the early Amstrad stuff though?)
Totally agree about both of last night products so why did John Lewis order 10 000 of the porta-pottie??
I was wondering if the products actually go in to production or not?! Actually think the Body Rocka looked quite good!
I don't think they do. I mean, has anyone seen any of the products from previous series like the pet belt or the cat calender?
I think in the real world the product would need extensive testing, is it safe to market etc, does the product conform to safety standards. I don't think it's possible to make a product and sell it in big stores without some safety checks and product testing. On Dragons Den they make a big issue about a product's safety, its durability. They never mention this on The Apprentice.
Here is an act which covers safety:
So I guess the winning product - the bum ball or whatever it's called - would need further testing for safety and durability before being put on the market.
Here is an act which covers safety:
Quote:
“ The General Product Safety Regulations 2005
Current Position:
The General Product Safety Regulations 2005 implement Directive 2001/95/EC and were laid before Parliament on 6 July 2005. They came into force on 1 October 2005. On the same date the General Product Safety Regulations 1994 and s10 of the Consumer Protection Act 1997 were repealed.
).
• Products covered include (but are not restricted to) clothing, medicines, primary agricultural and horticultural products, DIY tools and equipment, food and drink, household goods, nursery goods and motor vehicles.
Q1. What do the regulations require?
The Regulations place a general duty on all suppliers of consumer goods to supply products that are safe in normal or reasonably foreseeable use. Safety takes into account factors such as the product's characteristics, instructions and warnings, and the categories of consumers at serious risk when using the product, particularly children. Relevant British or European standards can be taken into account in assessing the safety of a product.”
“ The General Product Safety Regulations 2005
Current Position:
The General Product Safety Regulations 2005 implement Directive 2001/95/EC and were laid before Parliament on 6 July 2005. They came into force on 1 October 2005. On the same date the General Product Safety Regulations 1994 and s10 of the Consumer Protection Act 1997 were repealed.
).
• Products covered include (but are not restricted to) clothing, medicines, primary agricultural and horticultural products, DIY tools and equipment, food and drink, household goods, nursery goods and motor vehicles.
Q1. What do the regulations require?
The Regulations place a general duty on all suppliers of consumer goods to supply products that are safe in normal or reasonably foreseeable use. Safety takes into account factors such as the product's characteristics, instructions and warnings, and the categories of consumers at serious risk when using the product, particularly children. Relevant British or European standards can be taken into account in assessing the safety of a product.”
So I guess the winning product - the bum ball or whatever it's called - would need further testing for safety and durability before being put on the market.
Originally Posted by BlackOpal:
“I liked the body rocker! I would buy it lol”
“I liked the body rocker! I would buy it lol”
So would I - although I'd have to buy the worlds biggest handbag to carry it around
Originally Posted by Agent Krycek:
“So would I - although I'd have to buy the worlds biggest handbag to carry it around”
“So would I - although I'd have to buy the worlds biggest handbag to carry it around
”
LOL
...but you miss the point. You get fit by carrying it around.
Originally Posted by textpest:
“Totally agree about both of last night products so why did John Lewis order 10 000 of the porta-pottie??”
“Totally agree about both of last night products so why did John Lewis order 10 000 of the porta-pottie??
”
I live on a boat and I'm in the market for one..was it any good? Wonder if I can get one..it would be a definite bird puller!
Originally Posted by BlackOpal:
“I liked the body rocker! I would buy it lol”
“I liked the body rocker! I would buy it lol”
Me too, but not for it's recommended use. It looks just the right height to have under my desk to put my feet on.
I liked the body rocker and I reckon it would sell. A hell of a lot easier to store than the ball.
Like Floopy said though, it would have to go through all sorts of tests and safety measures and the design as it was was far too heavy and that would need to be sorted. They would also have to look into the manufacturing and production of it and costings in order to at least estimate a sales cost and quantities before attempting to sell it to retailers.
Like Floopy said though, it would have to go through all sorts of tests and safety measures and the design as it was was far too heavy and that would need to be sorted. They would also have to look into the manufacturing and production of it and costings in order to at least estimate a sales cost and quantities before attempting to sell it to retailers.
Good question. If the orders aren't real, what is with all the questions on exclusivity etc? Knowing you are actually going to order none of each product because it is all make believe makes those conversations seem especially random. Are they having to imagine if it was real life? All just a big role play, how strange.
I liked the potty. I would buy that and fling it in the bottom of my wardrobe with the rest of my well intentioned fitness purchases, no problem.
I liked the potty. I would buy that and fling it in the bottom of my wardrobe with the rest of my well intentioned fitness purchases, no problem.
Originally Posted by lou-kate:
“If the orders aren't real, what is with all the questions on exclusivity etc? Knowing you are actually going to order none of each product because it is all make believe makes those conversations seem especially random.”
“If the orders aren't real, what is with all the questions on exclusivity etc? Knowing you are actually going to order none of each product because it is all make believe makes those conversations seem especially random.”
True, but it's the same for both teams, so there's no unfair advantage... all power to the John Lewis people for treating it seriously as if it were a real product!
Originally Posted by uzzybuzzy:
“I don't think they do. I mean, has anyone seen any of the products from previous series like the pet belt or the cat calender?”
“I don't think they do. I mean, has anyone seen any of the products from previous series like the pet belt or the cat calender?”
They cannot put them on the market it would break the law.
Next weeks one will be even more of a cheat
I was totally confused last night
John Lewis got 10000 of the Body Rocker with exclusivity
but 2 other companies had bought some of them so how was it exclusive
why didn't SAS bring that up at all?!
John Lewis got 10000 of the Body Rocker with exclusivity
but 2 other companies had bought some of them so how was it exclusive
why didn't SAS bring that up at all?!
Originally Posted by Sammy2:
“I was totally confused last night
John Lewis got 10000 of the Body Rocker with exclusivity
but 2 other companies had bought some of them so how was it exclusive
why didn't SAS bring that up at all?!”
“I was totally confused last night
John Lewis got 10000 of the Body Rocker with exclusivity
but 2 other companies had bought some of them so how was it exclusive
why didn't SAS bring that up at all?!”
Was it that the original attempted deal was for 20000 with exclusivity which JL rejected but then took 10,000 anyway, presumably without exclusivity? I remember one of the teams in a previous series being clobbered for the same issue so otherwise you're right, SA should have brought it up.
Originally Posted by Sammy2:
“I was totally confused last night
John Lewis got 10000 of the Body Rocker with exclusivity
but 2 other companies had bought some of them so how was it exclusive
why didn't SAS bring that up at all?!”
“I was totally confused last night
John Lewis got 10000 of the Body Rocker with exclusivity
but 2 other companies had bought some of them so how was it exclusive
why didn't SAS bring that up at all?!”
I would have thought that if you were in business and had 2 orders for piddling amounts and one for 10,000 with exclusivity for 6 months and those were your only offers (which they were in this case) then the logical assumption would be that you would take the order for 10,000 and refuse the other 2. Hence the girls won.
I think in the past the exclusivity was an issue because the timescale was not for only 6 months and it was not for a massive customer. The exclusivity in this case seemed a reasonable one.
Originally Posted by Searcher2:
“I would have thought that if you were in business and had 2 orders for piddling amounts and one for 10,000 with exclusivity for 6 months and those were your only offers (which they were in this case) then the logical assumption would be that you would take the order for 10,000 and refuse the other 2. Hence the girls won.
I think in the past the exclusivity was an issue because the timescale was not for only 6 months and it was not for a massive customer. The exclusivity in this case seemed a reasonable one.”
“I would have thought that if you were in business and had 2 orders for piddling amounts and one for 10,000 with exclusivity for 6 months and those were your only offers (which they were in this case) then the logical assumption would be that you would take the order for 10,000 and refuse the other 2. Hence the girls won.
I think in the past the exclusivity was an issue because the timescale was not for only 6 months and it was not for a massive customer. The exclusivity in this case seemed a reasonable one.”
Well neither of the products meet the criteria. They were supposed to design a product that could be retailed for under £30 which would mean a manufactured cost of about £10
It would have taken a miracle to make the Body Rocker in those timescales. Soft Tooling for prototype would take weeks plus the tooling would cost at least several hundred pounds. Then it would need to be approved to the appropriate EU directies before it could be "CE" marked and put on the market
We should all email whatever Sralan's company is now and ask where we can get one!
Enough people ask, and they might well just take it on!
Enough people ask, and they might well just take it on!
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