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Does anybody else think Sir Alan fires is a bad judge of character?
DevilsAngel
11-04-2009
He always seems to fire the people just because they are a little quiet and does not even give them much of a chance and keeps the idiots.
alexgr
11-04-2009
The quiet ones are perceived to not contribute much to the task (and to be fair, I don't think Maj did, nor did he contribute anything good to the previous 2 tasks - the Olympic theme was rubbish), and if you're not contributing to the task, then you don't deserve to stay really. Mind you, some of the loud ones didn't do much in the last task either (James in particular).
omgwtfbbq
11-04-2009
So far I've agreed with all the firings. Last year I only agreed with a couple!
LaurieMarlow
11-04-2009
Originally Posted by DevilsAngel:
“He always seems to fire the people just because they are a little quiet and does not even give them much of a chance and keeps the idiots.”

The Apprentice is first and foremost a TV programme. The idiots make much better TV than the quiet ones.

Mind you, Maj provided a lot of humour, so it's sad to see him go, but the other two are more valuable. Ben's an arrogant little so and so and James is a train wreck in the boardroom.
Sid_1979
11-04-2009
Not a bad judge of character, just another victim of Reality TV.

I'm convinced production dictate to Sir Alan who he should keep for 'entertainment value.'

He wouldn't have thought twice about firing James had this been Series 1 when the show had a very different feel to it.
kwscott
11-04-2009
So far this serris ive agreed with the firing 2 out of 3 the only one i didnt was Rocky. I cant remeber about last years though
Sid_1979
11-04-2009
Originally Posted by kwscott:
“So far this serris ive agreed with the firing 2 out of 3 the only one i didnt was Rocky. I cant remeber about last years though”

Funnily enough, Rocky's was the only one I have agreed with so far.
footygirl
11-04-2009
I didn't agree with Anita being fired- he should have fired Debra
Sidespin Nid
11-04-2009
I've agreed with them all so far...this time last year I hadn't agreed with any (bar the guy fired in Week 3).
Sweet FA
12-04-2009
Originally Posted by kwscott:
“So far this serris ive agreed with the firing 2 out of 3 the only one i didnt was Rocky. I cant remeber about last years though”

Ditto - there's no way Rocky should have been fired although I'm happpy with the other 2.
DavetheScot
12-04-2009
Originally Posted by Sid_1979:
“Funnily enough, Rocky's was the only one I have agreed with so far.”

I'm with you. For all James' boardroom rantings, it would be hard to deny that everything that went wrong in that task was either down to Rocky or was agreed to by him.

Anita's firing wasn't a travesty; she did poorly, but I'd have fired Mona. And this week I think either Ben or James should have gone.
gilliedew
12-04-2009
When you look at the actual Apprentices Sir alan has hired, he hasnt done a good job at all.

He missed the best one by far, Ruth Badger who has her own company & TV show and has helped that other floozy by giving her new career a boost.

Where are his Apprentice winners, in a back room somewhere being a minion.
rowanjeli
12-04-2009
Originally Posted by gilliedew:
“When you look at the actual Apprentices Sir alan has hired, he hasnt done a good job at all.

He missed the best one by far, Ruth Badger who has her own company & TV show and has helped that other floozy by giving her new career a boost.

Where are his Apprentice winners, in a back room somewhere being a minion.”

Which is just as well. She would be a terrible employee.
I wouldn't work for her either though.
brangdon
12-04-2009
Originally Posted by DevilsAngel:
“He always seems to fire the people just because they are a little quiet and does not even give them much of a chance and keeps the idiots.”

He has a few known biases. He prefers people he sees as being like himself, and he doesn't like academics who can't put it into practice in the real world.

It's also worth remembering he doesn't see the footage we see. I don't think he'd have let Jenny C off in the laundry task last year, for example, or let Jo stay in the list task in s2, if he had seen quite how bad they were. He gets reports from Nick and Margaret, but often the teams split in half and N&M can't be everywhere, so he must rely on reports the production crew too.

Given that, for me most of his decisions are at least justifiable. I'd have been tempted to fire Mona in ep1, and James in ep3, but Anita was tied to both reasons the team failed, and I won't miss Majid at all.
Chubbler
12-04-2009
Originally Posted by footygirl:
“I didn't agree with Anita being fired- he should have fired Debra”

Debra has drive, determination, independance and good business skills. Anita contributed nothing and made simple mistakes. I think Anita was the right persont to fire
ianbeany1989
12-04-2009
You have to remember he doesn't want someone who'll sit there and say "Yes, Sir Alan, whatever you say Sir Alan". He needs someone loud so they have their own ideas and aren't scared to put them forward. Did you see any of that from Anita?
Sid_1979
12-04-2009
Originally Posted by Chubbler:
“Debra has drive, determination, independance and good business skills. Anita contributed nothing and made simple mistakes. I think Anita was the right persont to fire ”

What were the simple mistakes Anita made?

And from what I saw, she was washing cars like the rest of them, so why was her contribution deemed any less worthy?

Personally, I'd have fired Mona. The way she spoke to those clients when negotiating was appalling.
LaurieMarlow
12-04-2009
Originally Posted by Sid_1979:
“What were the simple mistakes Anita made?

And from what I saw, she was washing cars like the rest of them, so why was her contribution deemed any less worthy?

Personally, I'd have fired Mona. The way she spoke to those clients when negotiating was appalling.”

I'd say Anita made two mistakes.

Firstly, she was the one who announced so cheerfully that they had 'come in under budget' with their cleaning materials. I know that she was just trying to say something positive and she wasn't solely in charge of a budget or anything, but basically they lost because they spent too much and her name became associated with having spent too much.

Secondly, she was the most rubbish at cleaning cars. As Debra pointed out, she didn't get any business by herself. so she didn't bring in any profit either.

There were good reasons for firing Mona rather than Anita, definitely, but I don't think we've lost any great business prospect in Anita. Mona did a much better job at fighting her corner in the boardroom.
fluffybunyip
12-04-2009
Originally Posted by Sid_1979:
“What were the simple mistakes Anita made?

And from what I saw, she was washing cars like the rest of them, so why was her contribution deemed any less worthy?

Personally, I'd have fired Mona. The way she spoke to those clients when negotiating was appalling.”

I thought he should've fired Mona too, for the same reasons plus her purposely being divisive both in the cafe and in the boardroom with the "puppets" comment.

I thought he should've fired Ben this week - big, useless, arrogant lump.

And I'm still smarting about Raef being fired last year
longterm67
13-04-2009
Alan Sugar has the same weakness most of us have...he likes people that are like himself....so anyone dogged, argumentative and self serving will normally do well.
He seems to also prefer someone rough around the edges as opposed to a rounded business person.
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