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"Your song is ending" = Donna becomes evil?
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MiniMachoMan
13-04-2009
I've heard rumours that
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Donna is returning
so could the song ending be the DoctorDonna song, as in their friendship ending, and her becoming evil?
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Could possibly fit somehow with the Master returning as well?
I'm probably way off..
mossy2103
13-04-2009
Or perhaps it just points to the Doctor dying (and having to regenerate)?
Muttley76
13-04-2009
your theory is wildly implausable, it is, as mossy says above, much more likely to be about the Doctor dying and regenerating.

I can't really see any logic in your OP at all, tbh, returning cast aside.

BTW, there is little point in using spoiler tags re: Donna when you have used her name in the thread title...
MiniMachoMan
13-04-2009
Sorry, how is it wildly implausable? I think I'm missing something. :\
Muttley76
13-04-2009
Originally Posted by MiniMachoMan:
“Sorry, how is it wildly implausable? I think I'm missing something. :\”

Because the phrease 'your song is ending' was directed at The Doctor specifically, and because it is a reference to death, not someones personality changing for various reasons.

Even if Donna 'turned evil' because The master had some control over her, that wouldn't actually consititute anyones song ending, would it?
OathBreaker
13-04-2009
We Know HE has powers over the mind my betting is he knows of a way to harness
the power donna has or is going to extract it from her for his own ends.
Lets be honest donna's wellbeing isnt going to be top of HIS list its what donna knows and holds hes after thats clear.
there could be a plot line he turns Donna against the DR for what he did to her..trying to make out the DR had other choices he simply didnt think she was worth it etc.
We dont know what state donnas mind is in as the Dr said its never happened before.
MiniMachoMan
13-04-2009
I'm referring to the 'DoctorDonna' song ending, which is the Doctor's song. If Donna was to turn evil, then surely that would constitute that song ending.
Morgsie
13-04-2009
The Ood said your song will end soon and psychic Carmen said your song is ending. This refers to DTs time as the Dr is ending and RTD on Dr Who Confidential said there is trouble ahead.
Muttley76
13-04-2009
Originally Posted by MiniMachoMan:
“I'm referring to the 'DoctorDonna' song ending, which is the Doctor's song. If Donna was to turn evil, then surely that would constitute that song ending.”

but there song has alrerady ended. It ended when Donna forgot everything,

now the doctors song is ending..due to his forthcoming regeneration.

Now I don't deny that Donna may fall under the influnce of The master (and I dispute that would acutually make her evil, it wouldn't be her fault). What I am disputing is that the reference to a song ending is not about Doctor and Donna, and that to read that it is from what we heard is a rather wild asumption.
MiniMachoMan
13-04-2009
The Doctor said that what Donna had done would be sung around the universe to Wilf & Sylvia. Couldn't the song ending be the song stopping because Donna becomes bad and evil?
Muttley76
13-04-2009
Originally Posted by MiniMachoMan:
“The Doctor said that what Donna had done would be sung around the universe to Wilf & Sylvia. Couldn't the song ending be the song stopping because Donna becomes bad and evil?”

the song in this case is metaphorical not literal. They didn't mean your song will end in the sense we will stop singing about you, it is meant in the sense you will die, hence your 'song' will end.

I think you are a bit confused, tbh!
Eowyn W
13-04-2009
Originally Posted by MiniMachoMan:
“The Doctor said that what Donna had done would be sung around the universe to Wilf & Sylvia. Couldn't the song ending be the song stopping because Donna becomes bad and evil?”

I don't think the song ending refers to the literal songs and stories around the universe about Donna and her role in preventing the reality bomb. I took it to mean the same as Muttley - Doc 10's time is coming to an end - the metaphorical song of this stage of his life is coming to an end.

You never know till we get there, though - we'll see when we get to the end of the specials.
Dear Viewer
13-04-2009
With Wilf becoming a companion, my guess is that the storyline involves Donna being abducted.

In her current state, unlocking the 'Doctor-Donna' will apparently kill her, so Wilf and the Doctor have to team up to rescue her to prevent that.

But they will probably fail or, even if they succeed in rescueing her, the Doctor may be forced to open Donna's mind, the consequence of which will cause him to regenerate.
DavidG_UK
13-04-2009
When the Ood said "Your song is ending" they were talking to the "Doctor Donna". The psychic lady was talking to the Doctor alone...definately foreshadowing his regeneration
WelshNige
13-04-2009
Originally Posted by DavidG_UK:
“When the Ood said "Your song is ending" they were talking to the "Doctor Donna". The psychic lady was talking to the Doctor alone...definately foreshadowing his regeneration”

There are pictures showing that

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The Ood
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are in the final episodes.......
Muttley76
13-04-2009
Originally Posted by WelshNige:
“There are pictures showing that

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The Ood
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are in the final episodes.......”

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i think that's the next episode...
WelshNige
13-04-2009
Originally Posted by Muttley76:
“
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i think that's the next episode...
”

Really, that's interesting.....
Muttley76
13-04-2009
Originally Posted by WelshNige:
“Really, that's interesting.....”

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what i read on OG was that Ood Sigma says something to The Doctor and he then rushes back to the Tardis. It was definitly stated as being part of the filming block for the next special.

I have a hunch it might be the cliffhanger at the end of the next special.
Aneechik
13-04-2009
I don't want to be mean about Russell, but I'm going to be

The simplest explanation is usually the one we get to see so I'd surmise that "he is returning" is the Master and the knocking four times is the sound of drums. I think any deviation from this is crediting Dr Who foreshadowing, story arcs and keywords with a lot more complication than they ever really have.

It's always the case, you see a thread on here about what it all means and some really great posts in the thread about how it could all work out then when it gets to the finale it turns out to be exactly the same as the first post in the thread that stated the obvious.

Chances are they'll slip the Daleks and Cybermen in there somewhere too.
WelshNige
13-04-2009
Originally Posted by Muttley76:
“
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what i read on OG was that Ood Sigma says something to The Doctor and he then rushes back to the Tardis. It was definitly stated as being part of the filming block for the next special.

I have a hunch it might be the cliffhanger at the end of the next special.
”

Yeah that makes sense, pity we've got to wait for months before we find out....
WelshNige
13-04-2009
Originally Posted by Aneechik:
“I don't want to be mean about Russell, but I'm going to be

The simplest explanation is usually the one we get to see so I'd surmise that "he is returning" is the Master and the knocking four times is the sound of drums. I think any deviation from this is crediting Dr Who foreshadowing, story arcs and keywords with a lot more complication than they ever really have.

It's always the case, you see a thread on here about what it all means and some really great posts in the thread about how it could all work out then when it gets to the finale it turns out to be exactly the same as the first post in the thread that stated the obvious.

Chances are they'll slip the Daleks and Cybermen in there somewhere too.”

I think it was "it is returning", not he......
Pazozo
13-04-2009
I think it sounds entirely plausible.
NewbieCanuck
14-04-2009
Originally Posted by Muttley76:
“your theory is wildly implausable, it is, as mossy says above, much more likely to be about the Doctor dying and regenerating.

I can't really see any logic in your OP at all, tbh, returning cast aside.

BTW, there is little point in using spoiler tags re: Donna when you have used her name in the thread title...”

There's also little point in using spoiler tags when there is no spoiler in them.

"This is what I think might happen" is not a spoiler. "Ricky Gervais was spotted on set filming a scene where he kills the Doctor" is a spoiler (albeit a false one I just made up.)
NewbieCanuck
14-04-2009
Originally Posted by MiniMachoMan:
“The Doctor said that what Donna had done would be sung around the universe to Wilf & Sylvia. Couldn't the song ending be the song stopping because Donna becomes bad and evil?”

There might be songs about Donna defeating the Daleks sung around the universe, but I'm betting they wouldn't be very good or popular. When's the last time there was a popular song about a war hero, especially one who's best known for defeating the enemy with her fast typing?
MiniMachoMan
14-04-2009
You are all mean old ladies. :'(
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