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Old 14-04-2009, 19:03
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Posting in the what are you growing thread about growing your own and hif it is really better for you got me thinking about Organic food.

I work in a supermarket on the produce department and have noticed over the last few months Organic food slae dropping. I think most of it is because of the price.

Now is Organic really that much better for you than the normal cheaper stuff we can buy?

I can buy the cheap basic range of Carrots for 3 quaters of the price of Organic and I doubt they would taste any difference. Is buying organic just a lifestyle or people buy it because they really bel;ieve that it is better for them?

I think it is a con myself.
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Old 14-04-2009, 19:25
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I would think it is obvious that food not treated with chemicals of all sorts is better for you.
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Old 14-04-2009, 23:01
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It could be a con (a supermarket here is being sued for misleading advertising regarding organic food) but in general I think you can taste and sometimes see the difference. A friend of mine grows his own organic veg and makes his own organic extra virgin olive oil - you can't imagine how huge and obvious the difference between mainstream supermarket produce and that is, so for me it's worth the extra money, no doubt.
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Old 14-04-2009, 23:25
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why do you think peas are frozen on field?

do you not think from the garden in 2 mins is better than days on a boat deteriorating?

for extra quality its also cheaper
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Old 15-04-2009, 08:14
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I certainly think that the omission of adding preservatives and artificial additives does add to the flavour. Organic beetroot is much more tasty than ordinary beetroot, and organic tomatoes are a little sweeter. So, fruit and veg wise, organic is definitely better.
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Old 15-04-2009, 08:39
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I certainly think that the omission of adding preservatives and artificial additives does add to the flavour. Organic beetroot is much more tasty than ordinary beetroot, and organic tomatoes are a little sweeter. So, fruit and veg wise, organic is definitely better.
Not only all of the above, but it is also better for the planet, thus better for human kind and all that lives on the planet.
It is hardly rocket science, Noice 747
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Old 15-04-2009, 16:20
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Sorry bu there is no way you can say organic tomatoes or whatever are sweeter/tastier. How do you know it was the same variety, grown under the same conditions and picked at the same time as the non-organic one?

If you can't be sure of any of those things you can't compare.
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Old 15-04-2009, 17:40
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Sorry bu there is no way you can say organic tomatoes or whatever are sweeter/tastier. How do you know it was the same variety, grown under the same conditions and picked at the same time as the non-organic one?

If you can't be sure of any of those things you can't compare.
To an extent true, but I know how my friend grows his and the tomatoes are the most amazing I have ever tasted (and consider I eat them in some shape or form almost daily and have tried a lot of varieties) - they were worlds apart from anything I've ever bought in a commercial store.
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Old 15-04-2009, 17:51
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But if your friend had given the plant next to it an occasional bit of pesticide or some non-organic feed would you be able to tell the difference just by taste? I highly doubt it.

I doubt most veg gardeners are actually organic, to be strictly organic you'd need organic compost, organic feed, etc. etc. and it's not worth the extra cost.
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Old 15-04-2009, 18:09
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But if your friend had given the plant next to it an occasional bit of pesticide or some non-organic feed would you be able to tell the difference just by taste? I highly doubt it.

I doubt most veg gardeners are actually organic, to be strictly organic you'd need organic compost, organic feed, etc. etc. and it's not worth the extra cost.
I'm organic, I grow mostly in pots,soil from my Dads garden (he is too) chicken manure pellets for feed. Garlic sprays for greenfly. Its actually not very difficult or expensive when you do it yourself.
Commercial growers need certification which usually involves 5+ years of no pesticides in the soil, that can be expensive if you don't have livestock to feed the green manure/whatever you grow in the meantime to
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Old 15-04-2009, 18:30
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But if your friend had given the plant next to it an occasional bit of pesticide or some non-organic feed would you be able to tell the difference just by taste? I highly doubt it.

I doubt most veg gardeners are actually organic, to be strictly organic you'd need organic compost, organic feed, etc. etc. and it's not worth the extra cost.
Pesticides and herbicides are not just on the outside of the veg. It is also absorbed through their root system and leaves. This definitely affects flavour.

I have grown veg and fruit for over 10 years and so have my parents before me. Only organic. I don't want anything in my soil that is not organic. And it doesn't have to cost more. I use organic horse manure and make my own compost. I now live next to woodland, were nothing has happened in the last 20 years, you couldn't get better soil than that.
The only aspect that some might be opposed to is it is more labour intensive.
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Old 15-04-2009, 18:36
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Pesticides and herbicides are not just on the outside of the veg. It is also absorbed through their root system and leaves. This definitely affects flavour.

I have grown veg and fruit for over 10 years and so have my parents before me. Only organic. I don't want anything in my soil that is not organic. And it doesn't have to cost more. I use organic horse manure and make my own compost. I now live next to woodland, were nothing has happened in the last 20 years, you couldn't get better soil than that.
The only aspect that some might be opposed to is it is more labour intensive.
My mates set up is like that - farmland in a village in the midlands of greece surrounded by olive groves - they're really strict about divisions between neighbouring veg farmers and land owners as well because of contamination - they can't sell the oil as organic if it's not as there are extremely strict regulations. Again the taste difference (and the smell with the oil) is really obvious.
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Old 15-04-2009, 18:43
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Posting in the what are you growing thread about growing your own and hif it is really better for you got me thinking about Organic food.

I work in a supermarket on the produce department and have noticed over the last few months Organic food slae dropping. I think most of it is because of the price.

Now is Organic really that much better for you than the normal cheaper stuff we can buy?

I can buy the cheap basic range of Carrots for 3 quaters of the price of Organic and I doubt they would taste any difference. Is buying organic just a lifestyle or people buy it because they really bel;ieve that it is better for them?

I think it is a con myself.
Well common sense tells you that, with regards to health, not only organic is better for you, organic is 'normal' food, rather than what you're referring to. Just because non-organic chemically treated cr*p has become normalised, it's actually not normal.

I'm not referring to prices etc. They are always fixed and fabricated by industry.

But come on, organic what food should be versus rubbish?
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Old 15-04-2009, 18:52
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Well common sense tells you that, with regards to health, not only organic is better for you, organic is 'normal' food, rather than what you're referring to. Just because non-organic chemically treated cr*p has become normalised, it's actually not normal.

I'm not referring to prices etc. They are always fixed and fabricated by industry.

But come on, organic what food should be versus rubbish?
Yes, and that too.
Sorry, but this is something I am really passionate about.
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