http://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/ar...pprentice.html
Shame she got meningitis, but I don't think it really excused her whole personality!
Shame she got meningitis, but I don't think it really excused her whole personality!
Jenny Celerier's Meningitis
Originally Posted by whatfreshhell:
“http://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/ar...pprentice.html
Shame she got meningitis, but I don't think it really excused her whole personality!”
“http://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/ar...pprentice.html
Shame she got meningitis, but I don't think it really excused her whole personality!”
I thought it was strange that she blamed the breast feeding remark on the illness - sorry but I just do not buy that - I remember her delivery of that embarrassing remark and it was quite deliberate - she is making out that it was some kind of Touretty thing were she meant to say 'spoon-feeding'- I am not convinced.
I'm surprised she didn't attribute the infamous 'nod/shake "Yyy... noo Sir Alan"' to the meningitis actually.
Originally Posted by Indigo Louise:
“I thought it was strange that she blamed the breast feeding remark on the illness - sorry but I just do not buy that - I remember her delivery of that embarrassing remark and it was quite deliberate - she is making out that it was some kind of Touretty thing were she meant to say 'spoon-feeding'- I am not convinced.”
“I thought it was strange that she blamed the breast feeding remark on the illness - sorry but I just do not buy that - I remember her delivery of that embarrassing remark and it was quite deliberate - she is making out that it was some kind of Touretty thing were she meant to say 'spoon-feeding'- I am not convinced.”
I actually can believe that.
I think to some extent most of us can relate to this when we've meant to say something but said something similar instead, and then afterwards asked "Did I really say that? Are you sure?".
I can see how that particular comment could be misquoted as it's a very similar turn of phrase. I know that I've done a similar thing to that before, although I don't recall it being quite that embarrassing.
Breast fed, spoon fed, yes I can see how a mental lapse could confuse the two in the heat of the moment.
I haven't got meningitis but I do have something which can allow these types of errors to slip out when under pressure.
So I do think it's likely that she meant to say spoon fed, and that I doubt that she would have really wanted to say breast fed as she would know that it sounds embarrassing.
Originally Posted by Alrightmate:
“I actually can believe that.
I think to some extent most of us can relate to this when we've meant to say something but said something similar instead, and then afterwards asked "Did I really say that? Are you sure?".
I can see how that particular comment could be misquoted as it's a very similar turn of phrase. I know that I've done a similar thing to that before, although I don't recall it being quite that embarrassing.
Breast fed, spoon fed, yes I can see how a mental lapse could confuse the two in the heat of the moment.
I haven't got meningitis but I do have something which can allow these types of errors to slip out when under pressure.
So I do think it's likely that she meant to say spoon fed, and that I doubt that she would have really wanted to say breast fed as she would know that it sounds embarrassing.”
“I actually can believe that.
I think to some extent most of us can relate to this when we've meant to say something but said something similar instead, and then afterwards asked "Did I really say that? Are you sure?".
I can see how that particular comment could be misquoted as it's a very similar turn of phrase. I know that I've done a similar thing to that before, although I don't recall it being quite that embarrassing.
Breast fed, spoon fed, yes I can see how a mental lapse could confuse the two in the heat of the moment.
I haven't got meningitis but I do have something which can allow these types of errors to slip out when under pressure.
So I do think it's likely that she meant to say spoon fed, and that I doubt that she would have really wanted to say breast fed as she would know that it sounds embarrassing.”
Maybe I was being overly harsh - I know recently in a shop I was trying to decline a bag but said loudly ' No thanks I don't need a bath' - I felt very embarrassed - but the thing is 'bath' and 'bag' sound similar - my memory of this woman is that she actually looked down at her boobs as she was saying it - still, I will give her the benefit of the doubt on this occasion.
Excuses,excuses......
I'm 100% certain that there would have been medical checks on Jenny Celerier.
Funnily enough her illness didn't impede her ability to withstand the rigours of the selection processes.
I don't regard this story now as anything other than a face-saving exercise.
Rather than admit that she came over as a real madam, it is easier for Jenny to shift the blame.
Sorry dear but you don't fool me.
I'm 100% certain that there would have been medical checks on Jenny Celerier.
Funnily enough her illness didn't impede her ability to withstand the rigours of the selection processes.
I don't regard this story now as anything other than a face-saving exercise.
Rather than admit that she came over as a real madam, it is easier for Jenny to shift the blame.
Sorry dear but you don't fool me.
I don't know much about meningitis; maybe it does explain her saying breast feed instead of spoon feed.
Does it also explain why she bullied Lucinda, treated Sara so unpleasantly and tried to bribe a shopkeeper to sabotage the other team's efforts? I doubt it. I think she was a ghastly woman, and even Katie and Ben look nice by comparison.
Does it also explain why she bullied Lucinda, treated Sara so unpleasantly and tried to bribe a shopkeeper to sabotage the other team's efforts? I doubt it. I think she was a ghastly woman, and even Katie and Ben look nice by comparison.
Originally Posted by Indigo Louise:
“Maybe I was being overly harsh - I know recently in a shop I was trying to decline a bag but said loudly ' No thanks I don't need a bath' - I felt very embarrassed - but the thing is 'bath' and 'bag' sound similar - my memory of this woman is that she actually looked down at her boobs as she was saying it - still, I will give her the benefit of the doubt on this occasion.”
“Maybe I was being overly harsh - I know recently in a shop I was trying to decline a bag but said loudly ' No thanks I don't need a bath' - I felt very embarrassed - but the thing is 'bath' and 'bag' sound similar - my memory of this woman is that she actually looked down at her boobs as she was saying it - still, I will give her the benefit of the doubt on this occasion.”
Yes, that's what I mean. I've done that a few times.
But I have done it with completely different sounding words too. It was embarrassing when it was pointed out to me because what I said sounded completely mental.
Originally Posted by DavetheScot:
“I don't know much about meningitis; maybe it does explain her saying breast feed instead of spoon feed.
Does it also explain why she bullied Lucinda, treated Sara so unpleasantly and tried to bribe a shopkeeper to sabotage the other team's efforts? I doubt it. I think she was a ghastly woman, and even Katie and Ben look nice by comparison.”
“I don't know much about meningitis; maybe it does explain her saying breast feed instead of spoon feed.
Does it also explain why she bullied Lucinda, treated Sara so unpleasantly and tried to bribe a shopkeeper to sabotage the other team's efforts? I doubt it. I think she was a ghastly woman, and even Katie and Ben look nice by comparison.”
Oh not this again. Lucinda was a very manipulative person.
Yes Jenny was horrible to her, but Lucinda was also very sly and had a very unpleasant way of dealing with people herself. Just a different approach.
Originally Posted by Alrightmate:
“Oh not this again. Lucinda was a very manipulative person.
Yes Jenny was horrible to her, but Lucinda was also very sly and had a very unpleasant way of dealing with people herself. Just a different approach.”
“Oh not this again. Lucinda was a very manipulative person.
Yes Jenny was horrible to her, but Lucinda was also very sly and had a very unpleasant way of dealing with people herself. Just a different approach.”
Come come now, Mr Mate.
JC and Lucinda were in different leagues when it came to nastiness.
Originally Posted by Tern:
“Come come now, Mr Mate.
JC and Lucinda were in different leagues when it came to nastiness.”
“Come come now, Mr Mate.
JC and Lucinda were in different leagues when it came to nastiness.”
I don't agree.
It's a reality show, which is about the least realistic type of show you can imagine. It's all about levels of portrayal. Some people are played up to be more 'good' than they really are, other people are played up to be more 'bad' than they really are. Then our own perception fills in the gaps.
You see some of them outside of the context of the reality show in question and they often come across considerably differently.
But there's this perception that if the first time we see somebody on a reality show behaving a certain way, then that's what they must be completely like and there's no room for them being like anything else.
Originally Posted by Alrightmate:
“Oh not this again. Lucinda was a very manipulative person.
Yes Jenny was horrible to her, but Lucinda was also very sly and had a very unpleasant way of dealing with people herself. Just a different approach.”
“Oh not this again. Lucinda was a very manipulative person.
Yes Jenny was horrible to her, but Lucinda was also very sly and had a very unpleasant way of dealing with people herself. Just a different approach.”
I don't agree with your assessment of Lucinda, but even if I did, it would be irrelevant as any faults of Lucinda's wouldn't render Jenny's behaviour to her any more acceptable.
I happen to think each and every candidate comes over differently to how they would be if you really knew them.
I remember seeing Jenny "bullying" Lucinda and thinking she'd gone OTT but you have to remember we see a very small snippet and TV will always show the juicy bits.
Take last night's show for example - was there really that much silence when Noorul was brainstorming with his team? I bet he actually did show a little leadership (maybe just a little) but for the purposes on the show it looked better to edit it that way. All you needed was some wind blowing the tumbleweed around!
Post-Apprentice, Jenny Celerier came over as a very pleasant, capable, normal person in subsequent TV apperances. While I agree that the article sounds a bit "face-saving" in places, we have to remember that we never see the real Jenny, Noorul, Debra et al on the show and don't forget, they are competing for a job. If they can dump on a fellow contestant from a height then they'll do it and if they didn't it would be a very boring show.
I remember seeing Jenny "bullying" Lucinda and thinking she'd gone OTT but you have to remember we see a very small snippet and TV will always show the juicy bits.
Take last night's show for example - was there really that much silence when Noorul was brainstorming with his team? I bet he actually did show a little leadership (maybe just a little) but for the purposes on the show it looked better to edit it that way. All you needed was some wind blowing the tumbleweed around!
Post-Apprentice, Jenny Celerier came over as a very pleasant, capable, normal person in subsequent TV apperances. While I agree that the article sounds a bit "face-saving" in places, we have to remember that we never see the real Jenny, Noorul, Debra et al on the show and don't forget, they are competing for a job. If they can dump on a fellow contestant from a height then they'll do it and if they didn't it would be a very boring show.
Originally Posted by the_sheepman:
“Post-Apprentice, Jenny Celerier came over as a very pleasant, capable, normal person in subsequent TV apperances.”
“Post-Apprentice, Jenny Celerier came over as a very pleasant, capable, normal person in subsequent TV apperances.”
Hmm, but might not she be putting on a nice act for the subsequent TV appearances? Maybe the odious Jenny we saw on The Apprentice is the way she really is?
I had bacterial meningitis when i was 14 - my most enduring memories of that are having a hallucination that I was a cast member of the film "Grease" (cue me dancing around whilst laying down on the sofa), thinking my bed was a boat and my pillows were drowning people, and thinking my bathroom was a spaceship.
I was never a bitch tho
I was never a bitch tho
