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Old 15-04-2009, 00:34
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A few people will have already seen this on PVRjunction, pocket lint and no doubt DS news/Join freesat already but not seen it mentioned here yet. Those reading the Freesat+ forums may be interested to know the 500GB Panasonic Blu-ray recorder for freesat will go on sale at around £1000. Is there anyone saving their pennies for it?
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Old 15-04-2009, 07:35
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Am I missing something? The Humax HD receiver/recorder about £250 best price, I've just found a Samsung Blu-ray DVD player for £150. That equals about £400. Lets be generous and make it a v.good player at £250. What do I get for my other £500, other than £500 less of Blu-ray DVDs to watch on my player?
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Old 15-04-2009, 08:46
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More on these over at Join Freesat & Panasonic

http://www.joinfreesat.co.uk/index.p...ecorder-update

http://www.panasonic.co.uk/html/en_G...024/index.html

Expensive, but they do sound rather yummy.
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Old 15-04-2009, 09:23
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I'll be selling them, although I don't know what demand to expect yet! Might at least give me an opportunity to play with one
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Old 15-04-2009, 09:30
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id be surprised if they sell any at them prices, half them all and yes.
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Old 15-04-2009, 09:42
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Perhaps the most surprising I think is the "budget" DVD freesat recorder.

250GB hard drive, plus a DVD player, £699?!?!?! The Humax can be had for £270 odd, noone wants a DVD player that desperately surely. You've got to be pretty desperate to want to archive to DVD to pay that price, considering the Humax will let you archive the same stuff to an external HDD.
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Old 15-04-2009, 10:37
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I'd be surprised if they sell any at that price.
I'll guess the price will be dropped pretty quickly or the product discontinued.
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Old 15-04-2009, 10:49
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I guess the thread title should be rewritten, judging from the responses so far. It should read '£1000 Panasonic twin tuner Freesat+ recorder gets 'slated'.' (British sense, not American!)
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Old 15-04-2009, 13:10
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Is everyone missing the big factor of Blu-ray RECORDING that is included in this item. When DVD recorders came out they were over £1000 without and DVB at all, no HDD and no twin tuner. Access to the Viera Cast system, Yes it's a lot of money but look at what it does.
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Old 15-04-2009, 13:13
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Is everyone missing the big factor of Blu-ray RECORDING that is included in this item. When DVD recorders came out they were over £1000 without and DVB at all, no HDD and no twin tuner. Yes it's a lot of money but look at what it does.
yes but why do you want to record in blu-ray when it has a hard drive? whats the point? will bbc hd be even allowed to be recorded onto a disc?
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Old 15-04-2009, 13:31
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yes but why do you want to record in blu-ray when it has a hard drive? whats the point? will bbc hd be even allowed to be recorded onto a disc?
How about archiving whole series of programmes, or the footage taken on you FullHD camcorder.
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Old 15-04-2009, 13:32
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How about archiving whole series of programmes, or the footage taken on you FullHD camcorder.
External HDD £80 or less?
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Old 15-04-2009, 14:12
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Or record to to a disc that other people can play back such as family weddings, christening etc.
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Old 15-04-2009, 14:27
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Or record to to a disc that other people can play back such as family weddings, christening etc.
You can record HD on a normal DVD-R/DVD+R using a PC and play it back in HD from most blueray players.
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Old 15-04-2009, 14:32
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yes but why do you want to record in blu-ray when it has a hard drive? whats the point? will bbc hd be even allowed to be recorded onto a disc?
See the latest BBC HD Bog
Originally Posted by Danielle Nagler, Head of BBC HD
we have made one change which I hope those of you focused on the imminent arrival of blu-ray recorders will welcome. It will now be possible to make a single HD Blu-ray copy of one of our programmes, although not copies of copies. An HD connection to a protected home network will also be possible
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Old 15-04-2009, 15:17
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need... to... buy... *drolls*
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Old 15-04-2009, 15:38
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So what we are seeing on sale is in fact a Panasonic Blu-Ray recorder with the added bonus of a Freesat PVR built-in. Nearly two thirds of the price is on a new cutting edge (read phenomenally expensive) HD disk recorder without much in the way of raw source material. I think I'll wait until the HD recorder prices look like standard DVD recorder prices.
To be honest, I've never really used my old stand-alone DVD recorder that much. Recording from Sky+ after the event was just too long winded. So I've tended to keep everything on Sky+ recorder and when it got full, I upgraded to a bigger disk. Now, of course, with the Humax I don't have that restriction, I can just keep increasing the size of the external disk.
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Old 15-04-2009, 19:51
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"The future of hi-def? We get hands on with Panasonic's first Freesat HD Blu-ray recorders" ---- Home Cinema Choice

http://www.homecinemachoice.com/feat...rders+15+04+09
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Old 15-04-2009, 20:48
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You can record HD on a normal DVD-R/DVD+R using a PC and play it back in HD from most blueray players.
Surely, not in true HD quality
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Old 15-04-2009, 20:52
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actually nvm

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Old 15-04-2009, 21:46
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Surely, not in true HD quality
Yes in true HD, but of course programme length is limited by the disc capacity and the bit rate used. Look for a player that supports AVCHD.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AVCHD
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Old 15-04-2009, 22:13
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Has anyone been able to establish whether the panasonics will have a non-freesat mode enabling timer recordings to be programmed? I believe non-freesat recordings of BBCHD on the current foxsat hdr are free of archiving protection.

Plus will the VPID be able to be set in non-freesat to fully receive ITVHD?

Also whether there will be any form of diseq control to allow multiple lnb or motorised setups to be operated?

The panasonic freesat tvs do not have diseqc abilities but one would hope such an advanced box would have this included. It would be a pity not to at such high prices.

I guess some of these answers will become clearer once the user manuals are published but perhaps those people currently previewing the panasonics could take a look at the above
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Old 15-04-2009, 22:22
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Surely, not in true HD quality
You could fit about 1 hour 45 mins of ITV HD (10.5Mbps) on a dual/double layer DVD (8.5GB).
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Old 16-04-2009, 08:48
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Has anyone been able to establish whether the panasonics will have a non-freesat mode enabling timer recordings to be programmed? I believe non-freesat recordings of BBCHD on the current foxsat hdr are free of archiving protection.
As far as I know (Bob_Cat said somewhere) the non-freesat mode is part of the Freesat specification, so it should have it.

Yes you can record in non-freesat mode at the moment with the recording being free of archive protection, but I'm not sure if it'll last for long. Humax may have been kind to us though and deliberately not implemented it.
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Old 16-04-2009, 09:30
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Nice to see Homecinemachoice haven't used the Humax HDR at all based on this statement:-

"One of the more surprising aspects of the Freesat HD implementation is a customized EPG, which makes recording easier than we’ve seen on the rival Humax Freesat HD PVR. When recording shows on ITV, which uses an awkward opt-in Red Button HD system, the EPG will automatically prompt you to record hi-def if an ITV show is being transmitted in the format; ditto simulcasts on BBC One and BBC HD. This is very useful for ITV, as you never really know when the commercial station will broadcast something in hi-def."


Which is exactly what the Humax does!


http://www.homecinemachoice.com/feat...rders+15+04+09
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