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Old 15-04-2009, 22:23
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It annoyed me how the Sugar kept referring to 'well, you did make a quality product' as if that in some way made up for the mistake.

Of course it was a quality product - it's got 700 quids-worth of essential oils in it !!! The main reason it was selling so well was because people were responding to sniffing it with 'wow that smells delicious' - of course it does - it's got 700 quids-worth of essential oils in it !!!

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It's got 700 quids-worth of essential oils in it !!!
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Old 15-04-2009, 22:27
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She only thought it would be about a 'foiver'
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Old 15-04-2009, 22:58
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Old 15-04-2009, 23:12
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It annoyed me how the Sugar kept referring to 'well, you did make a quality product' as if that in some way made up for the mistake.

Of course it was a quality product - it's got 700 quids-worth of essential oils in it !!! The main reason it was selling so well was because people were responding to sniffing it with 'wow that smells delicious' - of course it does - it's got 700 quids-worth of essential oils in it !!!

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It's got 700 quids-worth of essential oils in it !!!
Wrong.

The product would still have been a quality product had some other oil being used.
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Old 15-04-2009, 23:15
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She only thought it would be about a 'foiver'
Don't mock Paula's accent, I think it's sexy. She can do my costings anytime.
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Old 15-04-2009, 23:35
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Don't mock Paula's accent, I think it's sexy. She can do my costings anytime.
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Old 16-04-2009, 09:19
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Wrong.

The product would still have been a quality product had some other oil being used.
How do you know?
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Old 16-04-2009, 09:28
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Old 16-04-2009, 09:35
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What amuses me is everyone's assumption that if they had used the cedarwood oil instead of the sandalwood they would have won the task. OK, the costs would have been much lower but to assume that the sales revenues would have been unaffected is bunk. There must be a reason why sandalwood is more expensive.

Simply stated, it would have been a different product and would, presumably, have smelled differently and had a different appeal. Why assume the sales of a different product would have been the same?
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Old 16-04-2009, 13:30
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It annoyed me how the Sugar kept referring to 'well, you did make a quality product' as if that in some way made up for the mistake.
He obviously didn't think it did - he did describe it as 'the fatal error', and fired the person he felt was responsible for it.

Of course it was a quality product - it's got 700 quids-worth of essential oils in it !!! The main reason it was selling so well was because people were responding to sniffing it with 'wow that smells delicious' - of course it does - it's got 700 quids-worth of essential oils in it !!!

Seaweed is free
A bit of raffia tied around it is dirt cheap but looks 'stylish'

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It's got 700 quids-worth of essential oils in it !!!
There's a difference between a product being expensive and high quality. Paula's products were usable, were pleasing to the senses, weren't falling apart, weren't wrapped in ugly cellophane, and weren't littered with stupid instructions and false advertising. It's the sort of thing people would be happy to put in their stores.

The cost of production was a separate issue, and he did address it.

What amuses me is everyone's assumption that if they had used the cedarwood oil instead of the sandalwood they would have won the task. OK, the costs would have been much lower but to assume that the sales revenues would have been unaffected is bunk. There must be a reason why sandalwood is more expensive.

Simply stated, it would have been a different product and would, presumably, have smelled differently and had a different appeal. Why assume the sales of a different product would have been the same?
Presumably, the reasoning behind it (and possibly the cause of the error in the first place), is that cedarwood has similar properties to sandalwood and has a scent somewhat reminiscent of sandalwood too.
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Old 16-04-2009, 13:56
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Presumably, the reasoning behind it (and possibly the cause of the error in the first place), is that cedarwood has similar properties to sandalwood and has a scent somewhat reminiscent of sandalwood too.
Agreed, though it takes an enormous leap of faith to state that her team would have won the task but for that mistake. We simply don't know how the product would have turned out and how the public would have reacted to it.
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Old 16-04-2009, 16:19
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Agreed, though it takes an enormous leap of faith to state that her team would have won the task but for that mistake. We simply don't know how the product would have turned out and how the public would have reacted to it.
They're both woody scents but they really don't smell that similar. Sandlewood is a very appealing scent (to both genders) so I'm not surprised the soap sold well at those prices. Cederwood is a more masculine scent and far less distinctive.
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Old 16-04-2009, 16:58
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Given that the cedarwood apparently smelt like a bonfire, the product would have been rather inferior, had they known the difference.
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Old 16-04-2009, 16:59
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You'd be bust in a week. She looked a bit worn for 29.
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Old 16-04-2009, 19:40
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You'd be bust in a week. She looked a bit worn for 29.
She's ex army [cadets] which partly explains why she's so fit. If you think she's "worn" for her age, you must be young or vain.
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Old 22-04-2009, 21:04
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