u make an excellent point about phil being stupid and overrrated yet debra gets more hate on this forum for exerting her authority in a task where she was project manager and where she passed the task

phil is definitely more loathsome any day over debra yet she is the villain why?? because she is a woman??

You mean the same Paula that thought she'd spent a fiver but had actually spent several hundred pounds?

Yeah, she'd be great in business....

Phil should have gone tonight as he was insistent to the point of overbearing, that his idea of pantsman was the best and only way to go.

I think he is rude, arrogant and totally lacking in people skills.

Didnt like the way SAS suggested that just cos he made a mistake, should he go? In my opinion, yes! he should have gone!

I agree, but for some reason, SAS seems to take a shine to certain people, even if it is completely illogical. Usually the type that like to paint themselves as some sort of working class hero- it's usually at this point that SAS makes a comment about how much they "remind him of himself" when he was younger.

It was a silly mistake, we all make them.

Yes very true - Philip never seems to waste an opportunity to state that he is 'only a working class lad from ?Durham'.

Although the more i think of it, its not so much as SAS likes them, more like if it makes good tv!

Paula made one fatal error which deserved to get her fired. But Philip made the fatal error by pushing his pants idea upon the group which was a doomed concept from the start....

Paula got everything else right in the task, whereas Philip failed in all areas. Yet she gets fired and he gets off the hook.

In saying that, Kimberly deserved to go because she was PM and was quite weak. But Philip could have easily gone also.

Not in Sir Alans business you don't!

Nah, but seriously I know it was just a silly mistake, but it was quite a worrying one, or I'd expect that's what SAS was thinking- imagine a similar thing on a larger scale!

There are degress of mistakes and that was probably the biggest blunder of the current series so I don't think it was her personality that let her down really.

But I agree, Philip should have gone too! Sometimes I fail to see Sir Alans logic but then, he's made millions so what do I know

It was one of those tiny errors (using grams instead of percentages) which then transpired to be a mammoth mistake that affected everything.

I really believe it was just one of those unfortunate incidents and she should have been given the benefit of the doubt since she'd performed so well on the rest of the task.

It did clearly say it was percentages on the top of the form though! And since that was the only major mistake the team made, I think he was right to fire her. I didn't find her particularly likable either or particularly great at anything.

I was really annoyed by tonight's Your Fired but it was all because of Jenny Eclair's imbecilic comment about "the gay one" not being camp enough?! What century are you living in you ignorant mad cow? We finally have someone who just happens to be gay, doesn't shout it from the rooftops and is just himself, and because that doesn't conform to her stereotypical view of what being gay is meant to be she thinks he is letting gay men down? Jesus wept dear - are gay people only allowed on TV now if they are prancing around in sequin hotpants? He was the only one who seemed to show the remotest bit of professionalism when he tried to reign in the Phil & Lorraine show. Quite the contrary, I think Howard is a credit to gay men everywhere.

Agree 100%.

Jenny Eclair worries me, it's Su Pollard I feel sorry for cos Jenny Eclair seems to be doing some mad copycat thing.

She also seems to be obsessed by pants, skid marks etc, I read a novel by her once which literally made me feel sick with its graphic descriptions of dirty pants. :vomit smiley:

The comment was awful

Silly woman, but I dont take her seriously enough for anything she says to actually offend me...

Yes, I think he's a credit to me

I was so hoping that after Jenny's comment someone would say 'Well, enough about Ben, what do think about Howard?' but it was a little too much to hope for

I loved YF tonight it wasn't so serious and we didn have to listen to stuck up business types.

It was much more bitchy night

I love that show Mary Portis does legend

Yes-when IS Ben going to be outed????
He would look so much better in pink spandex than Howard. (Stupid comment from STUPID Jenny Not Funny Eclair)

At least the audience got it right.

And I thought comparing Lorraine to a Dementor was a little harsh.

Absolutely right.

I think that the most unfair aspect of the show is that they went for Lorraine but were really soft on Philip.

Because nobody could be creative with Philip there shouting over absolutely anything anybody else said.
They just couldn't. You can't be a creative team if ideas aren't allowed to flow.

Look at the other team.
Ideas just flowed naturally and everybody listened to each other. Look what happened.

That's why I think Philip was most at fault in this task. Because he put a creative block on anything anybody else said and dismissed other people's ideas before they'd even had a chance to finish their sentences.That just blocks creativity full stop.
Creativity needs to flow. Philip put a block on that and prevented it. You need a good environment to allow ideas to bounce around.
He was undermining just about everything anybody else said.
He's just not a team player and has a bad temperament.

I suppose you can justify Kim being fired because she should have brought Noorul back into the boardroom. He literally did nothing. Phillip was never going to go because he is one of the "characters" that they need to keep in a bit longer for the entertainment value.

Thought Mona was also more at fault than Lorraine to be honest - her presentation style made it very obvious she thought the whole campaign was ridiculous so why get somebody to sell in an idea who thinks it's "pants" !!!

Hilarious episode though. I do a bit of work with McCann's which added extra amusement value.

Agree totally.

I found Kim very annoying on YF, not sure I could live and work with her, not sure why the panel thought she should not have been fired or why they thought Philip had merit.

Lorraine was the most decent of the three by far.

I agree. Mona's pitch was beyond embarrassing. But I don't really think Kim has got much about her. She was banging on about how excited she was to get a creative task, and then she said that she isn't creative. She didn't want to do the pitch because she's not comfortable in front of a crowd (I can understand that - a lot of people aren't comfortable in public speaking), which appears to be what she does in her day job.



I'd agree - to an extent. I do think Philip has got more about him than either Lorraine or Kim. But he can be belligerent and childish. He needs reining in. I'd really like to see how he gets on as team leader.


I think with Debra, she came across very badly in the cleaning task, which got her off on the wrong foot. She was also incredibly overpowering in the exercise task, and I didn't think she was a particularly good team leader. She's seemed a bit better these last two weeks though.


I agree. I like Howard, and wouldn't agree that he did nothing in the task. He's calm and collected and makes some very sensible points. His sexuality is neither here nor there to me, and neither should it be to Jenny Eclair.

With respect, Paula made more than one error. I understand why people are sympathetic to her mixing up 3% of a formula with the ml required so that she drastically overspent. But she then, when the overspend had been pointed out by Nick, failed to go back and recalculate so that she could work out how much to price her product at to try and avoid a loss. We know that her team shifted all their product and actually increased their prices when it became obvious they were undercharging, so it appears she had made no attempt to price in accordance with her costs. That is unforgiveable, however nice Paula is.

Philip, on the other hand, also made a mistake in putting forward a suspect idea. But, like the gym equipment task, in the context of no one else having an idea (other than Lorraine - whose idea was outside the brief). And he was not directly responsible for the way it as a) accepted by someone who specialises in marketing but more importantly b) realised by her. How could she have allowed a box - the product - to go out without having chosen the basics of the front design nor any of the back/contents? Philip is verbally aggressive but he is putting ideas forward in areas outside his skills zone and properly managed is an innovator. Kim was just a drone - nice girl, but no substance.

You can't really compare Paula and Kim's firing. Last week a good team made one mistake that caused them to lose, so whoever was going it was going to be bad luck for them. Sir Alan couldn't really fire one of the winning team instead. Paula was just unlucky, but that's going to happen in games sometimes.

Kim was useless last night. She cherry-picked for herself the job she wanted to do - making the ad - and absolved herself from the difficult stuff: coming up with an idea (I'm not a creative) or doing the pitch (I'm not comfortable in front of a crowd) or designing the product (leaving it to the designer, who justifiably paid them back for that!). She could have sent Lorraine and Howard to design the box and split Philip and Lorraine for a bit. She was amazed when the people she took into the boardroom then went for her, and saw that as betrayal (people don't owe you loyalty after you've put them up to be sacked). I was really unimpressed by her and on YBF - she might be a fun person to know but too emotional to work with.

I think the ad task is a trap - Sir Alan's looking for the people who are starry-eyed about TV and lose sight of the business bit. I think Kim and Philip totally gave themselves away on this. Lorraine is probably a pain in the behind but she wasn't responsible for losing the task. Philip and Kim were both awful and Philip was embarrassingly egotistical but he came up with a bad idea and she didn't even do that. He could have fired all three and I wouldn't have minded, but I certainly don't think Kim was unlucky like Paula was last week.