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Should the BBC invite Vincent & Kristina back?
Given the likely ongoing scandal (birth of Baby V just before the show starts) and subsequent press, plus the possibility of backstage tension, tears and tantrums should the BBC :
a) invite neither of them back b) invite only one of them back - and if so, which one or c) do nothing because it doesn't matter what kind of personality the dancers have as long as they can dance? |
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Given the likely ongoing scandal (birth of Baby V just before the show starts) and subsequent press, plus the possibility of backstage tension, tears and tantrums should the BBC :
a) invite neither of them back b) invite only one of them back - and if so, which one or c) do nothing because it doesn't matter what kind of personality the dancers have as long as they can dance? |
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Oh my God! How dare the dancers have a love life! Sack them immediately! This is so scandalous. Not.
Of course they should invite them back. Both very talented, watachable dancers and if they're still together come September, I've no doubt it'll boost ratings a bit. |
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It would really help if you could be more specific about the nature of this 'ongoing scandal'.
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Why would there be backstage tantrums, tears and tension? Vincent cheated on Susan, who is not a member of the show in any way. There was more likely to be backstage tantrums, tears and tension at the start of season 2 given that the wronged and the wrongful party were both dancers ..
They're two of the most talented dancers on the show. They're very popular. There's no reason not to invite them back unless someone at the BBC is stupid enough to let their moral preferences guide their business decisions. |
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Yes. Both can be invited back. As VikkiKaplinsky said both dancers are really talented, and throughout life talent has always been considered above behaviour which although reported in papers, is not our business really(Monroe Garland and many more for example)and they are great to watch.
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Oh my God! How dare the dancers have a love life! Sack them immediately! This is so scandalous. Not.
Of course they should invite them back. Both very talented, watachable dancers and if they're still together come September, I've no doubt it'll boost ratings a bit. |
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Why would there be backstage tantrums, tears and tension? Vincent cheated on Susan, who is not a member of the show in any way. There was more likely to be backstage tantrums, tears and tension at the start of season 2 given that the wronged and the wrongful party were both dancers ..
They're two of the most talented dancers on the show. They're very popular. There's no reason not to invite them back unless someone at the BBC is stupid enough to let their moral preferences guide their business decisions. Sounds like a recipe for tears, tantrums and tension to me!! |
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They'll do C, but I'm just a bit bored and peeved that personal affairs of some dancers has to get more coverage than any dancing they do. Takes some of the joy out of the show for me.
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They'll do C, but I'm just a bit bored and peeved that personal affairs of some dancers has to get more coverage than any dancing they do. Takes some of the joy out of the show for me.
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(d) would certainly appeal, but (c) is fine.
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Most dancers - those on Strictly included - manage to keep their private life precisely that.
Vincent needs to grow up and stop his flirting and pretending he is God's Gift to women, which has now become very silly. If Kristina was taken in by his act, it might well be because she was on a rebound of her own. If Strictly decided only to have one of them back, then I would hope they would choose Kristina - but only for the fact she is the superior dancer, which is all the show should be concerned about. |
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I'm sure they would a straight to court if they were dropped because of their private life.
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They'd lose their case if they did, cent
They don't even have a contract and you can't sue anyone for choosing not to re-hire you and they don't even need to give a reason Anyway, I think they'll ask both back and don't see why they shouldn't, given the show's own fondness for promoting both romance and showmance in the past they'd look rather foolish suddenly playing the morality card ![]() I do agree with nancy though that I could also get by without these sort of stories... |
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I do agree with nancy though that I could also get by without these sort of stories...[/QUOTE] Crikey, I can't, I must be even more shallow than I thought......
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Absolutely both should be back. Kristina should be given a fighting chance with a fit bloke, whilst Vincent should be given, shall we say, someone more challenged..... then he is around for the Pro dances but not long with a celeb, reasons being:
Regardless of recent revelations, I’ve never been a Vincent fan (so shoot me) , and his dismissive comments concerning events with Kristina have not endeared his persona to me in the slightest. Whether we want to admit it or not, feeling empathy towards the pro dancers is an important part of their appeal, and I just don’t with Vincent. Regardless of what went on, his lack of respect towards both S and K has been an eye opener. His naivety when dealing with the press has also been mind blowing (if you are inexperienced and paddle with piranha you will get badly bitten)! Either he needs PR lessons or his management needs a kick up the rear (for not holding his hands while speaking to the press), or both! Unless, of course, we are in line for a big magazine spread where Vincent and Kristina declare themselves as a couple, timed for just before they confirm who is doing the next Strictly series..... there by solving Vincent’s image issues in one fell swoop..... Sorry, but I think his relationship with S is a dead duck, and I say that not out of malice, but speak as a single parent who found herself in the same boat as S, but saw the sense and walked away with head held high. Yes, it’s scary having a child on your own, and I had many sleepless nights thinking of the responsibility, but once the trust has gone it’s over. If they play away when you are at your most vulnerable there’s not a lot of hope. The fear never goes, it’s called being a parent! Sixteen years later I still get the heebie jeebies (I was young too, the swine....) Either way, both Kristina and Vincent should be back on Strictly. Think of the number of times Tess could put her indiscreet foot in it, and Claudia would be beside herself with excitement...... They’ve got to come back just for that!
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They definately should both be invited back because of their dance talent. If they were not and it was because of the tabloid stories then the BBC should have sacked Brendan after series 1 for having an alledged affair with Natasha Kerplunksky and causing Camilla (his then fiancee) to dump him. That would surely have caused some backstage tension dont you think ? but they got over it and carried on as normal.
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Vincent is a wonderful dancer and he should be invited back.
Kristina is not a particularly good professional dancer and due to her figure and almost white hair, looks middle-aged. I would not vote for her return. In any case she looks as if she could devour Vincent whole. |
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Not a particularly good professional dancer? I'd argue that she is by far the best Latin dancer. I can't think of anyone who tops her, at least out of the females.
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Not a particularly good professional dancer? I'd argue that she is by far the best Latin dancer. I can't think of anyone who tops her, at least out of the females.
JJ - who is NOT a Karen fan!! (and who shows how subjective it all is!) |
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Kristina is not a particularly good professional dancer and due to her figure and almost white hair, looks middle-aged. I would not vote for her return. In any case she looks as if she could devour Vincent whole. ![]() Not a good dancer? Not worthy of a response… ![]() Anyone could devour Vincent whole, there’s not a lot of him- that’s not a criticism but an observation…..
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Given the likely ongoing scandal (birth of Baby V just before the show starts) and subsequent press, plus the possibility of backstage tension, tears and tantrums should the BBC :
a) invite neither of them back b) invite only one of them back - and if so, which one or c) do nothing because it doesn't matter what kind of personality the dancers have as long as they can dance? |
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Not a particularly good professional dancer? I'd argue that she is by far the best Latin dancer. I can't think of anyone who tops her, at least out of the females.
Of course in terms of Strictly competitive success is not the be all and end all. But to say she is the best is objectively debatable, although as a subjective opinion it is perfectly valid. For me although I think she is talented in terms of Strictly, I do not particularly enjoy watching her dance as much as some of the others (non-expert nonsensical view coming up ). I find some of her routines slightly frenetic and even in soft dances there is a harsh quality to her dancing that I find off-putting. Also was not at all a fan of the VW with Samba rolls she choreographed for the pro dancers last series!On the other hand to replace her for something that happened in her personal life, which to date she has not appeared to want made public (it's not her fault if the other two went to the press IMO) is patently ridiculous. And I think a lot of people are curious to see how she does with a real contender, after dealing so heroically with JS! |
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I think option (a) neither of them back.I think Strictly is as much as a personality show as it is a dancing show, and we need to like them to get us to vote..I do understand the recent scandal would not affect how they dance,but when i watch the dancers and the celebs for that matter, i want to think they are decent people with good morals.As with all people on these big tv shows they should be carefull of protecting their public image and be good role models as some people will have the right to not want to watch them due to this.
I would love more pros like Lillia,Darren and Matthew Cutler....not only brilliant dancers but they seem decent people,who you just know wont have the Sunday People on speed dial. |
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I think option (a) neither of them back.I think Strictly is as much as a personality show as it is a dancing show, and we need to like them to get us to vote..I do understand the recent scandal would not affect how they dance,but when i watch the dancers and the celebs for that matter, i want to think they are decent people with good morals.As with all people on these big tv shows they should be carefull of protecting their public image and be good role models as some people will have the right to not want to watch them due to this.
I would like to see the BBC impose a guideline on the pros saying they do not want them doing tabloid interviews about their private lives... in this case however the story appears to have come initially from Susan, so I suppose that wouldn't have stopped anything. |
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They don't even have a contract and you can't sue anyone for choosing not to re-hire you and they don't even need to give a reason
). I find some of her routines slightly frenetic and even in soft dances there is a harsh quality to her dancing that I find off-putting. Also was not at all a fan of the VW with Samba rolls she choreographed for the pro dancers last series!