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Old 23-04-2009, 15:14
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Now this would be a good programme to see.
I for one would love to know how its filmed. Is it all filmed in advance? If so, contractually, what does it say? Surely, they must tell some people (famillies etc) who wins!?
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Old 23-04-2009, 15:20
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Now this would be a good programme to see.
I for one would love to know how its filmed. Is it all filmed in advance? If so, contractually, what does it say? Surely, they must tell some people (famillies etc) who wins!?
The episode where the winner is named is filmed the night before it is shown live on TV. All the other episodes were filmed last Autumn, but the two finalists have been working for SAS since then, and the decision will only be made one day before the final is shown. And in fact, both finalists will be filmed as the winner, with the other being fired, and then it will be up to SAS which one of the two he decides to keep - and therefore, which episode is shown on TV.

This is all common knowledge.
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Old 23-04-2009, 15:20
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Now this would be a good programme to see.
I for one would love to know how its filmed. Is it all filmed in advance? If so, contractually, what does it say? Surely, they must tell some people (famillies etc) who wins!?
No, its all live - honest!!!

AND they actually film them in real time at Siralun's penthouse offices in Brentwood.

Whoops!! There goes another flying pig!!

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Old 23-04-2009, 15:23
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I think the way it works is:
It is NOT a 12 week (or however long it is) tour for the canditates. Each task takes up several days and then they get a day off before starting another new task. I think it's something like 4 or 5 weeks total.
At the end, SAS has his final two who do the final task, and the boardroom is filmed with 2 endings - each of the two getting a "You're Hired" bit as well as the taxi ride of failure.
Both finalists then spent the rest of the time (from end of filming until the day before the final is shown) working for SAS, and SAS makes his final selection only a day or so before the final - and the appropriate ending is shown.
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Old 23-04-2009, 15:29
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I think the way it works is:
It is NOT a 12 week (or however long it is) tour for the canditates. Each task takes up several days and then they get a day off before starting another new task. I think it's something like 4 or 5 weeks total.
At the end, SAS has his final two who do the final task, and the boardroom is filmed with 2 endings - each of the two getting a "You're Hired" bit as well as the taxi ride of failure.
Both finalists then spent the rest of the time (from end of filming until the day before the final is shown) working for SAS, and SAS makes his final selection only a day or so before the final - and the appropriate ending is shown.
Apparently the tasks take on average 2 days to complete, then 1 day for the boardroom - and then its straight on to the next task. No days off for them!!! its all filmed in Oct/Nov.

My understanding is that Siralun actually makes his FINAL choice in front of the cameras - only the day before the final is shown.

Plenty of info available on here and on other Internet Forums

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Old 23-04-2009, 15:29
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And do they ACTUALLY live in the house? Because, wow, that could be a hotbed of action if cameras were allowed in there!
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Old 23-04-2009, 15:30
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And do they ACTUALLY live in the house? Because, wow, that could be a hotbed of action if cameras were allowed in there!
Yes they do, but WAY Too much tension and too much exhaustion!!!

it isn't Big Brother.

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Old 23-04-2009, 15:30
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Even though we all know how it's made it would be really good to see a making off. It would be quite interesting to see what goes into setting the tasks up etc.
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Old 23-04-2009, 15:50
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I would love to see more footage of the house and what goes on in it. It was interesting to see Kate cuddling up to Phillip with some alcohol on You're Fired.

Yes i know it's not BBbut would still be nice to see
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Old 23-04-2009, 16:08
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I would love to see more footage of the house and what goes on in it. It was interesting to see Kate cuddling up to Phillip with some alcohol on You're Fired.

Yes i know it's not BBbut would still be nice to see
Come on, Mr P - you could have walked round the corner and stalked them outside the Bridge Cafe!! (lol)

Could be an area worthy of examination next Sept/Oct/Nov

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Old 23-04-2009, 17:58
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There are some behind the scenes things I’d like to know:

I’d like to know how long between each episode’s task? Last night, Alan referred to “next week” (meaning the next task), so are they supposed to be every week? I can’t see why they wouldn’t just film them continuously. Surely that would be a lot cheaper and the contestants would be more tired and emotionally volatile that way? Why give them breaks?

I’d also like to know how long the break is between the board meeting where they find out which team wins, and the board meeting where the 3 people return? Again, surely it would make sense to film it all in one go, but we see the team having a meal in the meantime and discussing who will get fired. So does Alan really sit around waiting for them to have a meal?

I would also love to know how candidates are chosen to be on the show? What is the split between those who are chosen because they have potential to actually be the apprentice and how many are chosen because they are idiotic and will make good TV? (I’d also love to know at what stage Alan knows which he will employ. I suspect he probably knows before he’s even met any of them.) I would imagine that since the main purpose of this whole thing is to make an entertaining TV show (rather than to find an employee) there would be far more chosen because they’re entertaining, and only a small number chosen because they’re any good.

I’d also like to know what the winner actually does for a living and how long they work for Alan for? Are they just making sandwiches or cleaning toilets for 2 months? Presumably Alan wouldn’t actually assign any position of responsibility to a person who applied for the job via a TV show?

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The episode where the winner is named is filmed the night before it is shown live on TV. All the other episodes were filmed last Autumn, but the two finalists have been working for SAS since then, and the decision will only be made one day before the final is shown. And in fact, both finalists will be filmed as the winner, with the other being fired, and then it will be up to SAS which one of the two he decides to keep - and therefore, which episode is shown on TV.

This is all common knowledge.
That’s only “common knowledge” if you happen to know it. These facts are not explicitly stated on the TV show. It may be common sense that the final would be filmed much later on, to reduce the winner being leaked, but I don’t think many people will know about there being two endings filmed, unless they happen to have heard it.
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Old 23-04-2009, 18:02
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There are some behind the scenes things I’d like to know:

I’d like to know how many days are inbetween each episode’s task? Last night, Alan referred to “next week”, so are they every week? I can’t see why they wouldn’t just film them every day. Surely that would be a lot cheaper and the contestants would be more tired and emotionally volatile that way.

I’d also like to know how long the break is between the board meeting where they find out which team wins, and the board meeting where the 3 people return? Again, surely it would make sense to film it all in one go, but we see the team having a meal in the meantime and discussing who will get fired. So does Alan really sit around waiting for them to have a meal?

I would also love to know how candidates are chosen to be on the show? How many are chosen because they have potential to actually be the apprentice and how many are chosen because they are idiotic and will make good TV. (I’d also love to know at what stage Alan knows which he will employ. I suspect he probably knows before he’s even met any of them.)

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RTFM!!! - or more accuratly, read the f... forum!

All these queries have been answered extensivly - some of them in this thread.

Do feel free to cast your eyes upwards.

For the best factual info - see the FAQ on another site

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Old 23-04-2009, 18:13
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RTFM!!! - or more accuratly, read the f... forum!
No thanks! Rather than spending hours searching through forums for hard-to-find inormation, I think I will just wait for someone to reply who can just tell me what I’d like to know.

All these queries have been answered extensivly - some of them in this thread.
The only one that has been sort of answered in this thread is the question about how long between tasks. Someone here reckons the tasks are filmed continuously, but that doesn’t explain why last night Alan said “next week’s task”, which is the whole reason why I asked the question in the first place. If Alan hadn’t said that last night, I wouldn’t have asked about it.
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Old 23-04-2009, 18:45
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BTW - going back to the original posting - yes- a TV Doc on the makng of the apprentice would be (or could be) excellent!!

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Old 24-04-2009, 10:12
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Someone here reckons the tasks are filmed continuously, but that doesn’t explain why last night Alan said “next week’s task”, which is the whole reason why I asked the question in the first place.
He's making a TV programme. The TV programme is shown once a week. He knows that, the contestants know that. The whole show is made for the benefit of the TV viewers (as well as the one winning contestant). That is why he said "Next week's task" rather than "Tomorrow's task". Because "Tomorrow's task" would have had to be refilmed.

It is of course also possible that the boardroom scenes were filmed on Sunday, the next task was due to start on Monday. In which case, it would have been "Next week's task" anyway.
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Old 24-04-2009, 10:45
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He's making a TV programme. The TV programme is shown once a week. He knows that, the contestants know that. The whole show is made for the benefit of the TV viewers (as well as the one winning contestant). That is why he said "Next week's task" rather than "Tomorrow's task". Because "Tomorrow's task" would have had to be refilmed.

It is of course also possible that the boardroom scenes were filmed on Sunday, the next task was due to start on Monday. In which case, it would have been "Next week's task" anyway.
I think it is for the benefit of the viewers, the producers clearly think that if he said tomorrow we'd all turn the tv on on Thursday and wonder why it wasn't on!

They also do this on other show's with similar structures such as America's next top model.
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Old 24-04-2009, 11:12
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I think it is for the benefit of the viewers, the producers clearly think that if he said tomorrow we'd all turn the tv on on Thursday and wonder why it wasn't on!

They also do this on other show's with similar structures such as America's next top model.
They've been doing this for years on all sorts of programmes.

Someone I know at the BBC said that they filmed an entire 13 week series of half hour game shows in two days.
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Old 24-04-2009, 11:47
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They've been doing this for years on all sorts of programmes.

Someone I know at the BBC said that they filmed an entire 13 week series of half hour game shows in two days.
Most game shows do that. Countdown certainly used to.
Even stuff like deal or no deal they film a sequence of shows in a row.
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Old 24-04-2009, 12:27
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They've been doing this for years on all sorts of programmes.

Someone I know at the BBC said that they filmed an entire 13 week series of half hour game shows in two days.
A long time ago in a place far, far, away, I was in the audience for a game show. They did the same thing. They filmed about six episodes in one day. I found it amusing that the hosts had to go and change clothes between each episode, or the viewers would think they were wearing the same clothes week in week out.
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Old 24-04-2009, 12:37
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All these type of programes seem to be turning into personality programes. The task seems to be just an aside

I would like to see the programe more focused on the task
and the boardrom to judge which team overall performed the best rather then who happens to rack in the most profit.

Perhaps the could expand the programe so that one show foccusses on coming up with the idea, developing the concept and coming up with prototypes

Then the next programe could cover coming up with the marketing material and adds and selling the product
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Old 24-04-2009, 12:43
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All these type of programes seem to be turning into personality programes. The task seems to be just an aside

I would like to see the programe more focused on the task
and the boardrom to judge which team overall performed the best rather then who happens to rack in the most profit.

Perhaps the could expand the programe so that one show foccusses on coming up with the idea, developing the concept and coming up with prototypes

Then the next programe could cover coming up with the marketing material and adds and selling the product
...and this has got what to do with a programme called "The Making Of The Apprentice"?
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Old 24-04-2009, 12:49
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All these type of programes seem to be turning into personality programes. The task seems to be just an aside

I would like to see the programe more focused on the task
and the boardrom to judge which team overall performed the best rather then who happens to rack in the most profit.

Perhaps the could expand the programe so that one show foccusses on coming up with the idea, developing the concept and coming up with prototypes

Then the next programe could cover coming up with the marketing material and adds and selling the product
They really ought to make a 'smartened up' version for BBC4.

They could:

1) Make the tasks longer, specifically allocate an entire day for planning before they actually did anything.

2) Pick people who appear to have some business acumen rather than use God knows what criteria they use at the moment.

3) Score people on different attributes and have leaderboards so that you actually see what the candidates are capable of over the whole series and don't risk losing a good candidate early on for some arbitrary reason.

4) Use a business guru who actually gives encouragement and offers positive criticism rather than just gets belligerent and offensive to a team who happen to lose by a couple of quid.

5) Scrap all that 'living in the same house' nonsense.

Then you'd have a programme suitable for an intelligent audience who wanted to get a better insight into business.

It wouldn't be TA, of course, and it would get far lower ratings, of course, but BBC4 are used to that.
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Old 24-04-2009, 12:50
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...and this has got what to do with a programme called "The Making Of The Apprentice"?
Well, he obviously doesn't think they are doing the best job of making it.

Seems like a pretty fair comment to me.
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Old 24-04-2009, 13:00
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Ahh, I see. He'd read the title of the thread, but hadn't read the subject of the thread.
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Old 24-04-2009, 13:16
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Ahh, I see. He'd read the title of the thread, but hadn't read the subject of the thread.
It's just normal thread drift.

Take a chill pill.
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