Originally Posted by Bob22A:
“All these type of programes seem to be turning into personality programes. The task seems to be just an aside”
“All these type of programes seem to be turning into personality programes. The task seems to be just an aside”
That’s what most people constitute entertainment. If people were selected purely on their ability, most of the audience would find the programme boring and switch off. Presumably, candidates are selected because they are either interesting, charming, attractive, arrogant, emotionally volatile, or incompetent. (Or, they are easily coaxed into being, or sounding, one of the above by the production team).
Alan Sugar is pretty good at making money, so he’s going to want to make The Apprentice as successful as it can possibly be. Given that there are only likely to be a handful of the candidates Alan would consider hiring in the first place, it makes no difference what order he fires the rest of them, so he may as well make sure the programme is as entertaining as possible by keeping the strong characters on board. (Also, keeping the more disruptive and awkward people on board means he can see how the good ones deal with working with them.)
Also, I wonder how many of the “mistakes” people make are actually their fault. I think it would be quite easy for the producers to sit around planning what the episode’s “cock up” is going to be, then engineer that. Considering the two teams are always in isolation throughout the task, it’s extremely easy for them to fix who wins, or even what details are overlooked. Considering there seems to be a “cock up” almost every week now, I’m quite sure they are being contrived. They can basically do anything they like because we only get to see a tiny fraction of the footage that they choose show us.
None of this bothers me, though. The emotion is real, and the programme is edited in an entertaining way, so I enjoy it. And of course I love to get my weekly fix of all my favourite songs: Dance of the Knights, Clubbed To Death, and the others.

Originally Posted by Willie Wontie:
“He's making a TV programme. The TV programme is shown once a week. He knows that, the contestants know that. The whole show is made for the benefit of the TV viewers (as well as the one winning contestant). That is why he said "Next week's task" rather than "Tomorrow's task". Because "Tomorrow's task" would have had to be refilmed.”
“He's making a TV programme. The TV programme is shown once a week. He knows that, the contestants know that. The whole show is made for the benefit of the TV viewers (as well as the one winning contestant). That is why he said "Next week's task" rather than "Tomorrow's task". Because "Tomorrow's task" would have had to be refilmed.”
Maybe most people find this sort of thing clear and helpful, but I just find that really confusing.
The Apprentice isn’t presented as a live show. We are not supposed to be watching events in real time. We see them going to bed at night and getting up in the morning. Alan often says “I’ll see you in the morning”. Everything that happens seems to relate to the events as they happened at the time of filming.
So Alan switching between “real time” and “air time” seems needlessly confusing to me. And it makes it feel less like a fly-on-the-wall documentary and more like performance.
Originally Posted by starsailor:
“Most game shows do that. Countdown certainly used to.
Even stuff like deal or no deal they film a sequence of shows in a row.”
“Most game shows do that. Countdown certainly used to.
Even stuff like deal or no deal they film a sequence of shows in a row.”
The difference between Countdown and The Apprentice is that Countdown is supposed to be recorded on the day it’s aired. The fact that they film it all in one go is something of a secret, that they try to cover up by lying outright. They lie about the date. They lie about what they did over the “weekend”. They lie about it being their own birthdays. The Apprentice is not at al like this: it’s supposed to be live, and the programme has never even suggested that tasks take place once a week, or that the episodes were filmed recently.
So if Jeff Stelling says: “I’ll see you tomorrow for more Countdown”, that may mean 10 minutes to him. But if Alan Sugar says “I’ll see you back in here tomorrow”, that is actually supposed to mean the next day. To my knowledge, we’ve never been lied to about the passage of time on the Apprentice.
So when Alan then says: “next week’s task”, I find that very confusing!



