Do you advocate treating racist opinions with respect? Seriously? Is that human decency? I'm having real trouble with your point of view to be honest.

I'm all for understanding where people are coming from. It's only through understanding that we can truly educate, which is one part of what you're saying. However, understanding should not be confused with tolerance.


Treating people as second class citizens because of something like their race, gender or sexuality is disgraceful. And attitudes are extremely harmful. How can gay people hope to be accepted in society and given the same rights and privileges as anyone else if we tolerate the kind of behaviour Mona is reported to have exhibited.

Thank for saying what I was trying to but in a more eloquent manner!

Next the PC brigade and blatant homophobes in hiding on here will be saying that Hitler had a right to think what he did about Jewish and gay people and that we should respect his views.

Unacceptable views should not be respected. (Especially when those views like some of the more sillier posts on here are not based on any sense and no answers to straight forward questions or the posting of anything to back up ludicrous claims that homosexuality is chosen yet heterosexuality isn't, are ever given. )

There should be no hiding place for filthy racists and/or homophobes in society or on here.

Yes, thankfully after I alerted DS to the absolutely pathetic and childish remarks of one user, they cleaned most of that posters hysterical and outlandish remarks.

It really is shocking that some people are so intolerant, I for one think we should get back to disciplining people who cant accept others differences.

Its not as if Mona is susceptible to discrimination herself.

Well actually it is wrong to be homophobic in this country, as its wrong to be sexist or racist too...its a sackable offence in the work place to discriminate against any of the above!
If its part of her religion she should keep it to herself, what if a gay man said they didnt want their child to be exposed to someone whos religion involved being homophobic??
There is no excusing that kind of behavour in this country,in this day in age!!

She is probably one of those parents that has no issue whatsoever with their children watching violence, murder, rape, theft, suicide, arson, The Apprentice etc on the TV but goes into a frenzy if two men hug eachother and worry about it "corrupting" their children.

With all the problems in the world I will never understand why so many people get so very worked up about what gender people happen to be attracted to. It just defies logic to me.

I am very disappointed in Mona if she said this.

I found her quite annoying from the start and after hearing these shockingly backward views, I dislike her even more.

What a pathetic, moronic thing to say.

The wrong kind of intolerance will not be tolerated.

Intolerance is intolerance is intolerance.


Attraction is probably based on any number of arbitrary physical or psychological factors, of which gender may just happen to be one.

Ask yourself the following questions and answer them honestly:

Have you ever found a member of the "wrong" gender attractive?
If so, did you decide not follow it up because they were the "wrong" gender?

I have seen attractive people from behind who, when they turn around, lose their attractiveness because they were the "wrong" gender.

If you answer Yes then you have made a choice even if it was an unconscious one.

"Intolerance is intolerance is intolerance." PC and posting claptrap of the highest degree.

"Have you ever found a member of the "wrong" gender attractive?
If so, did you decide not follow it up because they were the "wrong" gender?"

The "wrong" gender? - as I'm gay a gay man which is the "wrong" gender? The opposite one to which I am 100% attracted to or the one I am 100% attracted to but the one that homophobes think that I shouldn't be attracted to because of a load of total nonsense that they can't and never back up on here?

Now, you also seem to have abused the words "found attractive" as only meaning someone, someone would like to have sex with. Many things, places and people of both sexes, of all sexualities and of all ages can be attractive without me wanting to mount them.

In short and to try and address your loaded bomb: No, I have never had any sexual attraction towards any women ever. I have met many beautiful women and many with very attractive personalities that I enjoy spending as long as possible with. But I have never had any sexual attraction towards any women ever.

Well not after I chose to be gay that is!

If ever a word has been more abuse and should be banned of DS forever is the blood stupid PC word "intolerance"

I read in a post above words along the lines of "Maybe she doesn't want to have to explain homosexuality to her son" - and post like that never see the bleeding obvious that, so it's ok for her son to see male/female relationship images everywhere and never feel that she has to explain that to her son - I.E. it's only homosexuality that the 6 year old would require a explanation that she is not prepared to give?

"Mummy, why are those two men kissing?" - 2009 answer: Because they like each other.

"Mummy, why are that men and woman kissing?" - 2009 answer: Because they like each other.

Any other answer is just exposing what the parent really thinks.

And as with Hitler, no, it's not acceptable and no amount of PC claptrap and bullying people with the oh so stupid word "intolerance" is ever going to change that.

Your whole post stinks of trying to get me to admit something that is only in your head and not mine. Your definition of what a gay person is and trying to say that it is a choice or that choices are or were made. They were not. Ever.

As a straight woman, i find people of both sexes attractive....i dont have relationships with women because im straight.
A gay man could find a woman attractive...he wouldnt have a relationship with them because he is gay....simples

Its not about the ´wrong sex´and if it is, it works both ways

And i dont often mstake men for women or visa versa LOL

I'm not saying we should just leave them with their views and let them get on with it, I'm saying we should stop condemning them as though its their fault, which it isn't necessarily. Nor did I say it should be tolerated. I'm just saying views don't always put me off people.


Gay people are accepted and have pretty much the same rights (I'm unsure where gay people stand on things like adoption though). There is going to be prejudice for everything in life and it will never be eliminated. Lower classes are discriminated against, black people are, fat people are, both men and women are the list is endless. The reality is we will never ever be rid of prejudice and every single one of us will fit into at least one group. Some are stronger than others but its still prejudice and discrimination non the less.


Yeah I get what you're saying and I pretty much agree but my point was that we can't just tell people they're wrong because they hold a different view for what ever reason. It doesn't mean they're a bad person. We have to tell them why they're wrong. And its more morality to say its wrong. I know its now illegal but it only came around through morality.

The bold part is the key to this - if/when it is aired, then at least we will see if these are words that are put in her mouth, or she really is so out of touch with Britain today, where she will be rightly condemned. Given that they broadcasted the alleged racist comments in one of the earlier episodes, I assume they'll do the same again - otherwise she will not get the chance to clear her reputation if it is the usual fabricated press story, or show her for what she really is if she did make these comments in the way it's portrayed.

All she needs to tell her son, if anything, is that some men love women, some men love other men, and some women love other women. No need at that age to go deeper than that (unless they specifically ask a question of course).

Concerned with some of the responses on here, trying to flippantly relate this to saying maybe Hitler was right to say what he did, or the presumption that anyone who is not gay, or a fervent supporter of gay causes, is therefore anti-gay... intolerance there maybe??

Whatever age my child is when they ask about it I'll explain to them that some people love and respect each other and it's positive thing.

Again, what is with the drama lama?

Talk about PC, people want to read into every single little thing and get all huffed up and offended. The guy put 'wrong' in inverted commas, it's obvious what he meant and more to the point it's obvious he didn't mean anything negative by it.

'I.E. it's only homosexuality that the 6 year old would require a explanation that she is not prepared to give?'

Who even said that? Give me strength.

Mona is 28. She cannot hide behind ignorance/religion, because she has had every opportunity to consider what impact her words have. Using religion/upbringing to avoid thinking empathetically is lazy.


Having walked hand-in-hand with my boyfriend in public, and having received numerous looks and a fair few unkind comments, I would say "accepted" is far from the truth. Maybe it's the case of a vocal minority, but comments like those Mona has allegedly said are certainly not going to help.


Yes, those comments are doing harm. They infer that gay people are inferior and although many may not want to admit it, they advocate further homophobic abuse, hate crimes, and murder. They marginalise the danger that gay people face each day. I think it is absolutely fair to condemn her for condemning gay people to a life of inequality.

If she did say it then she is a very irresponsible for not considering how Howard, and the viewing public, would be affected by it.

Anyway, in terms of the show, perhaps this could ultimately lead to her firing?

How does 'I wouldn't want my six year old son to meet a gay man' translate into 'gay people are inferior and it's okay to abuse them and murder them'. Unless you know her reasons then you're not really in any place to say that. That's not to say she doesn't have certain prejudices about what they are like, but those prejudices aren't always so extreme and evil.

I have to agree with you there.

At the same time...i cant understand what harm a gay man could do to a child And why she would need to explain anything to her son apart from he loves him, she loves her, or he loves her.

All this is said, asuming she did say this. The whole racism thing was just ridiculous the other week...the trouble is i cant see what other context this could be taken in, unless a load of tosh and she didnt say it....we shall see eh!!

She is not literally saying it no, and I will wait until I see the footage to see the context of her comment. But if she is inferring that her son would be somehow "corrupted" by meeting a gay man, then yes she is contributing to the pool of homophobia, just as comments like "that's so gay" in the playground contribute to it, and lead to more serious extremes.

Yes the whole race thing was indeed ridiculous. Yasmina's wording was sloppy admittedly but not racist although if what Mona has been quoted as saying is corrected, then it is what it is.
Personally I can't see how she would expect her son never to associate with a gay person, which is the main thing leading me to think perhaps she was misquoted. I also think it's more of a case of her not wanting her son to turn gay rather than her thinking gay people are any harm.

I agree, I didn't think that their comments were racially offensive, perhaps offensive to Noorul as they were claiming that he was not the most attractive, but that was all.


Perhaps, but surely that infers that there is something "wrong" with her son being gay, and that her son could somehow "turn" gay if he met a gay man? If that is her view then she ignorant and it's a shame but keeping it to herself is not doing harm. Saying it to Howard or another gay person however, is harmful.

Yes well in all cases I think we can safely say she doesn't agree with homosexuality, she may well be religious as someone said and that's her call. However I don't think disagreeing with the way someone lives has to mean they don't respect them or treat them how they would anyone else. I don't yet know what ctaegory she would fit into.

I'm not saying someone can turn gay by meeting someone gay but someone people actually think like that and I don't doubt Mona is one of them. That's the way her comment came across to me. Obviously even if she does think that, she should know to be more sensitive not just to Howard but to anyone who doesn't share her views.

So you don't think those comments were racially offensive, but what if someone did, who it might affect? Just shows how easily these tittle tattle stories are thrown around to create hysteria...

Why would it be wrong for her to hope that her son is straight rather than gay - especially if she would like grandkids some day! Just because she might want her son to be straight, it doesn't automatically infer that she thinks 'gay is wrong'.

It will certainly make for interesting viewing when she's on You're Fired, whenever that is.

I do think it's a shame that a poster with two non-white people is perceived to have as much significance to potential buyers, but I think that they are probably correct in thinking it could. I think it differs from this scenario because that decision was made in the context of business and I think that Yasmina and Mona's aim was to show equality in the poster.


Well that supposes that being gay automatically equates to grandchildren not being a possibility? Gay does not equal sterile.

Fair play to her for sticking up for what she believes in.

Hopefully Sir Alan will see this as a positive trait and she may get to the final.

She deserves admiration for being a caring mother as so many aren't now days.

I'm trying to teach my children that we should respect people as individuals, and that means me respecting my children as individuals too. I suppose that if Mona doesn't actually tell her son her views she's not directly harming him, but if he grows up "different" in some way (not necessarily sexually) to what he perceives his mother thinks is right, then she's preventing him from being himself, and she's not going to be able to support him in what he does.

Meeting a "friend" of his parents is not going to do him any harm, but she can do her son emotional harm by not allowing him to express himself.