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Old 29-04-2009, 22:40
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GAWD! He was soooo rude!!

ARGH, if I was Noorul, I would've ripped his bow tie off at the very least!

Not a fan of Noorul, but no-one deserves to be treated like sh*t.

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Old 29-04-2009, 22:51
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There were moments when he was very amusing, but he wouldn't leave poor Nooral alone!
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Old 29-04-2009, 23:05
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Alvin's great and he has mixed it with the worst of Wall Street. He was absolutely right - Noorul was far too defensive.
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Old 29-04-2009, 23:14
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Alvin was an annoying dick and seemed to want to annihilate Noorul's character.

Yes Noorul was a bit retiring and limp, but he didn't deserve the character assassination he received.
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Old 29-04-2009, 23:30
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ARGH, if I was Noorul, I would've ripped his bow tie off at the very least!

LOL!
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Old 29-04-2009, 23:31
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Alvin was an annoying dick and seemed to want to annihilate Naroul's character.
I don't think he wanted to do any such thing. Alvin was simply pointing out why Noorul behaves the way he does - he wasn't saying that "head intelligence over "emotional intelligence" is a bad or even unprofessional way to behave - just that it's not what to do to succeed in business or rather in a show like the Apprentice. I think Noorul proved it himself with what he was saying in the program - how his gameplan was to just lay low and do as he was told. He was never going to survive long operating like that.

I find Ben very obnoxious and yet still think Noorul was the right person to go after his fairly self-destructive performance in the boardroom; insisting on butting in when Ben was doing a good job of burying himself, only to end up making himself look even worse! Noorul could have put up a much stronger defence by simply pointing out that he had been the only one to correctly value one of the "gems" and that he had been unwilling to let it go for £50 and it was Ben who had forced the deal through at £60. Noorul should have said that he hadn't wanted it to go for less than it was worth and that Ben had cost them over £100 in loss for that one sale when he put it through at £60.

One thing that did puzzle me though was that initially Ben was being credited with brokering the deal for the skeleton, and yet by the end of it Noorul was blamed for being responsible for it when it was deemed to have been a bad deal!!
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Old 29-04-2009, 23:34
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It was a mistake on Nick's part to assign Noorul the blame for the skeleton deal when Ben closed the deal and didn't allow any opportunity for anyone to disagree with it.
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Old 30-04-2009, 00:37
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I don't like him.
I find something distasteful about guests on these shows who just directly insult people thinking they're funny for doing it.

Guests do mock people for comedy and it can be funny if it's purely motivated by comedy, but he seemed to be just a bit too sneery and nasty in a personal way.
The way he looked at him as he was laughing at him, ugh.
Didn't like him one bit.
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Old 30-04-2009, 01:36
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I love Alvin, although I prefer it when he's making people cry because they are forty thousand pounds in debt, and then helping them get out of it!
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Old 30-04-2009, 01:53
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One thing that did puzzle me though was that initially Ben was being credited with brokering the deal for the skeleton, and yet by the end of it Noorul was blamed for being responsible for it when it was deemed to have been a bad deal!!
Absolutely right. Nooral was a rubbish candidate, but keeping his mouth shut during that sales negotiation was one of his better silences. Like you, I still can't get my head round how he got blamed for NOT closing a bad ideal, and even more ludicrously, that someone actually got credit for that. I mean, huh?
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Old 30-04-2009, 02:20
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GAWD! He was soooo rude!!

ARGH, if I was Noorul, I would've ripped his bow tie off at the very least!

Not a fan of Noorul, but no-one deserves to be treated like sh*t.

Yep, he crossed the line a couple of times, didn't he? Maybe it's because he's American.
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Old 30-04-2009, 17:58
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I don't think he wanted to do any such thing. Alvin was simply pointing out why Noorul behaves the way he does - he wasn't saying that "head intelligence over "emotional intelligence" is a bad or even unprofessional way to behave - just that it's not what to do to succeed in business or rather in a show like the Apprentice. I think Noorul proved it himself with what he was saying in the program - how his gameplan was to just lay low and do as he was told. He was never going to survive long operating like that.

I find Ben very obnoxious and yet still think Noorul was the right person to go after his fairly self-destructive performance in the boardroom; insisting on butting in when Ben was doing a good job of burying himself, only to end up making himself look even worse! Noorul could have put up a much stronger defence by simply pointing out that he had been the only one to correctly value one of the "gems" and that he had been unwilling to let it go for £50 and it was Ben who had forced the deal through at £60. Noorul should have said that he hadn't wanted it to go for less than it was worth and that Ben had cost them over £100 in loss for that one sale when he put it through at £60.

One thing that did puzzle me though was that initially Ben was being credited with brokering the deal for the skeleton, and yet by the end of it Noorul was blamed for being responsible for it when it was deemed to have been a bad deal!!
Yeah but did he have to compare him to a dog and endlessly humiliate him?
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Old 30-04-2009, 18:04
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I don't think he wanted to do any such thing. Alvin was simply pointing out why Noorul behaves the way he does - he wasn't saying that "head intelligence over "emotional intelligence" is a bad or even unprofessional way to behave - just that it's not what to do to succeed in business or rather in a show like the Apprentice.
Agree. He was merely pointing out the flaws in Nooral's strategy as a would-be apprentice. I didn't hear him say anything insulting about him as a person outside of the way he behaved on the programme. That's the job of the panelists, to assess the contestants' performance and offer advice on where they went wrong. which is all Alvin did. And Nooral didn't seem to be in the least offended by anything he said.
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Old 30-04-2009, 21:55
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Absolutely right. Nooral was a rubbish candidate, but keeping his mouth shut during that sales negotiation was one of his better silences.
It seemed to me he was quiet then because he didn't know what to say. He didn't have the confidence to close the deal at the low price, nor did he have the confidence to stop Ben muscling in. He just dithered. Ben jumped in because otherwise the opportunity would have been lost.

So both came out of it badly. I'm happy to blame Nooral for being weak, for allowing the deal to go through too low, and for allowing Ben to jump in at all. I'm happy to also blame Ben for stealing the deal from Nooral, and for making the deal too low.
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