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Old 30-04-2009, 09:57
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Hi All,

Before my Freesat HDR arrived I was recording in HD from my Freesat Panasonic TV to a Panasonic HDD DVD recorder. Not too fiddly as the TV has a built in EPG and timer to handle this with the correct cabling. Only one prog at time though and you can't watch another channel, but great for recordings when your not there. The quality of the recordings is the equal of Hummy.

Now the point of my post (and you were thinking he would never get there!!!!!!) is that these recordings on the Pana HDD recorder are fully editable, with any padding front and back deletable. In fact you can delete any section you like.

Is there anyway that the Hummy's video files can or will ever be editable, to keep say one group's performance on Later with Jools Holland?

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Old 30-04-2009, 10:18
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Hi All,

Before my Freesat HDR arrived I was recording in HD from my Freesat Panasonic TV to a Panasonic HDD DVD recorder. Not too fiddly as the TV has a built in EPG and timer to handle this with the correct cabling. Only one prog at time though and you can't watch another channel, but great for recordings when your not there. The quality of the recordings is the equal of Hummy.

Now the point of my post (and you were thinking he would never get there!!!!!!) is that these recordings on the Pana HDD recorder are fully editable, with any padding front and back deletable. In fact you can delete any section you like.

Is there anyway that the Hummy's video files can or will ever be editable, to keep say one group's performance on Later with Jools Holland?

"Real knowledge is to know the extent of one's ignorance" - Confucius
You can copy the .ts files to a computer and edit the files (remove adverts etc) and burn the edited files to dvd. Look at VideoRedo Plus or VideoRedo TV suite for really user friendly software (not free but very good). The quality is excellent as the data remains digital throughout without the multiple digital to analogue to digital to mpeg2 required to use a DVDR. You can't however put them back on the hdr but you can play them on a pc using vlc player (which is free) and if your computer can be connected to your TV then you can also play them back to your TV
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Old 30-04-2009, 11:20
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You can copy the .ts files to a computer and edit the files (remove adverts etc) and burn the edited files to dvd. Look at VideoRedo Plus or VideoRedo TV suite for really user friendly software (not free but very good). The quality is excellent as the data remains digital throughout without the multiple digital to analogue to digital to mpeg2 required to use a DVDR. You can't however put them back on the hdr but you can play them on a pc using vlc player (which is free) and if your computer can be connected to your TV then you can also play them back to your TV
Can you edit the .ts files from encrypted HD content?

I ask, as the OP was talking about originally recording HD from from his TV to the HDD DVD. (Even though he was recording an HD prog from Freesat to the HDD DVD, I doubt it was transferring in HD, and certainly not burning HD to the DVD. (I know you can burn HD to a DVD using AVHCD, but I doubt an HDD DVD would support that).

I wouldn't have thought encrypted HD editing was possible?

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Old 30-04-2009, 12:02
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Can you edit the .ts files from encrypted HD content?

I ask, as the OP was talking about originally recording HD from from his TV to the HDD DVD. (Even though he was recording an HD prog from Freesat to the HDD DVD, I doubt it was transferring in HD, and certainly not burning HD to the DVD. (I know you can burn HD to a DVD using AVHCD, but I doubt an HDD DVD would support that).

I wouldn't have thought encrypted HD editing was possible?

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Missed the HD bit, as you say you can only edit SD or non encrypted HD. Currently videoredo does not support H264 (it will handle HD Tivo files) but support is hopefully expected soon. You can't burn any sort of HD on a DVD recorder (only 720 x 576 maximum ) and as you can't get RGB SD from a protected HD recording (only cvbs) it makes sense to record anything you want on DVD using SD. You can only burn HD (AVCHD) to a standard DVD on a computer and replay it on a computer or a blu-ray player.
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Old 30-04-2009, 12:20
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Missed the HD bit, as you say you can only edit SD or non encrypted HD. Currently videoredo does not support H264 (it will handle HD Tivo files) but support is hopefully expected soon. You can't burn any sort of HD on a DVD recorder (only 720 x 576 maximum ) and as you can't get RGB SD from a protected HD recording (only cvbs) it makes sense to record anything you want on DVD using SD. You can only burn HD (AVCHD) to a standard DVD on a computer and replay it on a computer or a blu-ray player.
Yes, I've used my PC to burn an HD calibration disk in AVCHD onto DVD, for calibrating my Blu-Ray/TV settings. I didn't think a consumer HDD DVD Recorder would support it.

Thanks for the confirmation.

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Old 30-04-2009, 16:58
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Thanks once again Graham and Les - You are of course absolutely right. I guess the HDD recording is in SD and upscaled on the way back. It is pretty good but obviously not as good as proper HD.

The sooner someone decided they can't be arsed with the encryption the better. I only want to archive and watch again occasionally - I don't want to be selling copies on eBay??!!!

Thanks again

Dave
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Old 30-04-2009, 18:03
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Hopefully this will be an added feature when the new software comes out.
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