just got a humax box i hear when u record certain programmes u cant view some channels i have two feeds in but the box only detects 1 they are in the proper inputs when i try to record a prog at the same time as viewing another channel it wont let me i can however record subsiquent progs but only on certain channels i am totally perplexed by the manual what is the point of not being able to view some progs whilst recording what are the four white buttons across the top of the remote for

Were the sat cables on the correct outer connections when you first run setup?
If not you have to run setup again to get them both to work.

The four buttons are to use the remote to control other devices.

However instead all they do is confuse when the box will not power up as the remote is not in PVR control mode.

P.S.
Welcome to the clan

Automan.

there seems to be a problem with your shift key and quite a few puctuation keys seem to be missing it does make it easier to understand what youre saying if you do at least use some punctuation people will be more inclined to answer as it is its very hard to read your question automan does seem to have made the effort though

have you connected one of your coax cables to the LNB out instead of the two in ports?

edit i just reread your post you say it's correctly connected Like Tern says it's difficult trying to decipher some parts that aren't punctuated.

But Welcome anyway

sorry about the punctuation will try harder!!!! anyway, yes i`ve checked the feeds they are in the correct positions.I have set up again and although the box works ok but the recording seems to cut out certain channels for instance u cant view hd itv and record hd bbc .the other thing that gets me is whats the point of 2 recorders if they cut out other channels .I have been thinking(the first time is allways the worst) if i have 2 f type feeds from the socket in the wall i presume i need to use both of them . as too freesat some wicked cheesy movies on movies for men featuring has been stars mark hammil for goodness sake!!!
still need freview to watch virgin though anyway bear with me thanks for your help

Sounds like your box initialised whilst only one aerial feed was connected or whilst you were using a looped connection.

A full box reset is your answer here.

If after the reset you still only have 1 functional tuner then there are 2 possibilities jumping out at me:

Either:

1. A faulty LNB or connection

2. A faulty HDR tuner

However, try a box reset 1st with both LNB feeds connected to the Humax simultaneously NOT looped through.

BTW when working properly, you can record on one channel and view another. It only becomes limited when recording 2 channels in separate groups and then trying to watch a 3rd channel in neither of the 1st two groupings.

Do you live in a flat with communal dish/aerial system?

If so, are you sure that both points coming out of the wall plate are satellite feeds?

Some only offer 1 sat & 1 terrestrial.

Just a thought.

Rgds.

Les.

Yes that was my next thought savvy..

tintantab try connecting just one feed at a time to the LNB1 port and then to the LNB2 port that way you'll be able to sort out whether you have a faulty feed or a faulty tuner.
Prior to that I suggest that you force the box to believe it has two working connections by pressing the menu button and then selecting 'setup' then 'freesat tune' but don't press the ok button. Next press red green yellow blue green yellow blue. On antenna type press ok and set connection type to 'Two Cable (same)'

Yes communal aerial is installed and i have at the moment 1 feed and the other looped as per manual it works .i have checked all my connections and they are ok.the wall plate has 2 sat feeds f type and 2 coaxial for digital terrestrial .At the moment i can watch 1 channel and simultaniously record another by going to the channel and recording then flipping to watch another. Future recording programmes works ok. good point about the feeds perhaps only 1 is working??? its just been installed

So, you are only taking 1 of the sat feeds, and putting the loop in?

Why?

Take the loop out, and take the 2nd sat feed into the box as well as the 1st. Do what GaseousClay said about going into the hidden menu to enable your 2nd feed.

You should then have full functionality.

Rgds.

Les.

That's your limitation then.

The looped feed is a work around for people with 1 feed only. It doesn't give full functionality just ensures the box works in its most basic state.

The box functions on 1 tuner ONLY with a looped feed.

You need to connect a 2nd separate LNB feed to LNB port 2 then factory reset the box. You'll get full functionality then.

If you connect a 2nd feed without a factory reset your problems will continue as the box remembers the number of LNB's connected at set up, not subsequently.

If you don't have a 2nd feed, you need to upgrade the LNB to a dual or quad and run a 2nd length of cable.

Both tuners work on a single looped feed, the only restriction is that the second tuner can only record channels that match the frequency band (split at 11700Mhz) and have the same polarity. You can also watch any other channel sharing a transponder with either recording. The problem was that ITV HD and BBC HD are in the same frequency band but have different polarity.

did he red yellow etc thing now ive lost all channels exept the 1 i am recording

i cannot stop the recording to reset the box again i have never known such a complicated bit of kit in my life i am beginning to doubt my sanity

Have you used the stop button it should offer a cancellation prompt?

cancellation ok now thanks

every time i record a channel i loose all other channels until i stop recording this is after doing the red yellow cheat thing i wish id never bought this box its so confusing i mean im not an idiot but im beginning to feel like one

Try a full Factory Reset with both Sat Feeds connected, to start again afresh.

If it then doesn't work, either one of your feeds is faulty, or you have a faulty box.

You can test which by swapping between the feeds, and see if you lose signal altogether.

Rgds.

Les.

I think you need to start right back at the begining as to your setting up. It seems not only are you confused but other forum members including myself are struggling to understand your situation, thats not a criticism it is understandable that conveying your setup limitations is difficult when your not too sure whether the info your supplying is relevent or not.

Turn off the box and connect the one coax you are pretty sure is working to LNB1 and turn the box back on, don't use the loop through. Then assuming you have a picture do a factory reset this will set the box to one feed mode only.
Turn the box back off and connect the other feed from your wall outlet turn back on and see if you get a picture from that.
If you do then connect both feeds from the wall outlet to the LNB1 and LNB2 ports on the foxsat. Then do a factory reset again this should reset the box to two cable mode.

Let us know how this goes before doing anything else..

or you can do it savvys way but take it a step at a time
Last edited by GaseousClay : 06-05-2009 at 14:22

Yep as I said above and as Les said.

You need to attach 2 separate LNB feeds ie 2 separate cables each from a different LNB output then reset the box.

Your problems will continue if you continue to use 1 feed (cable) that's looped. The box isn't designed for that.

Edit: Gaseous's instructions above (cross posted) are also good as they effectively test both cables.
Last edited by White-Knight : 06-05-2009 at 14:29

i did th2 cable setupp loadsa trouble im wondering if ive only 1 feed as only 1 cable works to give a picture the box on the wall says sat 1 and sat2 ive been surfing the net and some communal dishes dont have 2 feeds any way ive got i input and a loop noand im gonna stick with it as i havent got any more mental energy to expend thank u all for your help ill just nip off and shoot myself!!!!not!!!!!!

If you can only get a picture with one cable then either :-

1. Only 1 sat/LNB feed externally to the wallplate
2. One external Cable is faulty
3. One external cable is loose at the wallplate
4. One cable from the wallplate to the box is faulty.

You can check/test 1., 3. & 4. yourself.

You can then ask your landlord re 1. & 2. If he says two feeds are provided, then, by elimination, you can tell him there is a fault with one.

If he says he has no intention of supplying 2 feeds (the combination wallplate may just be a contractor's job lot, it doesn't indicate that there has to be 2.), then you are stuck with 1 feed + the loopthrough.

Graham Thompson has produced an excellent Excel application, which shows you what you can, and cannot, do with 1 feed.

Get it Here

Rgds.

Les.
Last edited by savvy : 06-05-2009 at 15:22

sticking with the single cable with loop through seems to be your best bet for now. The wall plate appears as you say to only have one feed connected to it from the communal dish.
Just to be on the safe side do the factory reset to guarantee correct operation of the current setup. You will now have slightly limited use of the recording though as other posters have mentioned, but good luck and enjoy the functionality you do have currently and look at savvys suggestion in the post above at a later date

May I ask a question without starting a new thread?

I have an old Humax8000(?) with single tuner; if I want to upgrade to a dual tuner model do I need 2 cables coming from my aerial?? Also, which Humax box would you recomend? I've read snippets about some of the new one's being 'buggy'.
Ta!!

Is the 8000 an old Freeview PVR? If so, this is the Freesat+ forum for satellite not DTT.

If you search in the Terrestrial | PVRs | Humax forum for "9150 vs 9200 vs 9300" you will find plenty of threads to help you out.

I have a 9300, and you only need 1 aerial input to them.

Rgds.

Les.