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Old 06-05-2009, 17:58
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told to produce a valid one within 7 days so i've had it mot'd (40) and it'll cost 125 - it only needs a handbrake cable, a balljoint for the front wheel and he said as he's doing the handbrake cable that it could do with having new brake shoes.

i don't get paid till a week on tues so don't know where i stand with the police. i'm happy to keep the car off the road but where does that leave me with the police??

i can't produce what i haven't got and i'm panicking - searched forums and i'm none the wiser.
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Old 06-05-2009, 18:01
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did you tell the police you didnt have one when they stopped you, or did they know you didnt have one .... i think they will want you to produce a valid vert for the time they pulled you over, not after the offence.

you need an MOT to drive on the roads, not just when the police ask you for one !!!
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Old 06-05-2009, 18:02
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Your kind of up the creek innit. Maybe you could have a word with the garage and delay payment on the work for a bit and leave some collateral with the garage till you get paid?
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Old 06-05-2009, 18:04
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told to produce a valid one within 7 days so i've had it mot'd (40) and it'll cost 125 - it only needs a handbrake cable, a balljoint for the front wheel and he said as he's doing the handbrake cable that it could do with having new brake shoes.

i don't get paid till a week on tues so don't know where i stand with the police. i'm happy to keep the car off the road but where does that leave me with the police??

i can't produce what i haven't got and i'm panicking - searched forums and i'm none the wiser.
Technically you are breaking the law and will probably be prosecuted.
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Old 06-05-2009, 18:07
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Get the new MOT and produce the documents. Explain why you got the new MOT certificate to the Officer who deals with you. Just be honest, it might help.............
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Old 06-05-2009, 18:08
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Your kind of up the creek innit. Maybe you could have a word with the garage and delay payment on the work for a bit and leave some collateral with the garage till you get paid?
I doubt that will help as the MOT will have had to be valid on the day that you were stopped.

Only hope is a bent garage that will do a back-dated certificate if they still exist, I think all MOTs are now logged on the DVLA computer at the time they are issued.
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Old 06-05-2009, 18:17
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I dont think you have much chance of a backdated certificate. Its all logged on computers now like geoveo said.

Also, i am not any help, but i hope you do get prosecuted. You hold a license, you should know what is required to drive on UK roads. You have failed to acknowledge the laws and therefore deserve to be prosecuted.

Just count yourself lucky that you werent in an accident, because if this was the case you would seriously be flucked.
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Old 06-05-2009, 18:23
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No valid MOT = No Valid Insurance = No sympathy from me. You deserve whats coming to you. The car is unroadworthy its not just the paperwork thats out of date your actions could of had very serious implications
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Old 06-05-2009, 18:24
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tbh the police were very good and could tell i was fully insured and legal to drive apart from the mot.

they told me to produce one within 7 days but i can;t because i can't afford the 130 to fix it.

i'm happy to leave it off the road until payday but that's outside the 7 days. i'm just wondering if i ring the policeman concerned and explained whether it would do any good.
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Old 06-05-2009, 18:29
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tbh the police were very good and could tell i was fully insured and legal to drive apart from the mot.

they told me to produce one within 7 days but i can;t because i can't afford the 130 to fix it.

i'm happy to leave it off the road until payday but that's outside the 7 days. i'm just wondering if i ring the policeman concerned and explained whether it would do any good.
My understanding is that if you don't have an MOT your insurance is invalidated. I could be wrong though.

And I don't understand how they could have told you that if you didn't tell them ( or they didn't already know ) that you don't actually have an MOT

Just out of interest though - how long have you been driving it without a valid MOT ??
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Old 06-05-2009, 18:36
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tbh the police were very good and could tell i was fully insured and legal to drive apart from the mot.

they told me to produce one within 7 days but i can;t because i can't afford the 130 to fix it.

i'm happy to leave it off the road until payday but that's outside the 7 days. i'm just wondering if i ring the policeman concerned and explained whether it would do any good.
I'm just wondering how you can drive legally without an MOT? Or are MOT's optional extras these days?
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Old 06-05-2009, 18:39
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tbh the police were very good and could tell i was fully insured and legal to drive apart from the mot.

they told me to produce one within 7 days but i can;t because i can't afford the 130 to fix it.

i'm happy to leave it off the road until payday but that's outside the 7 days. i'm just wondering if i ring the policeman concerned and explained whether it would do any good.
You were not legal to drive at all without a valid MOT, why on earth would you risk it??? I'm pretty certain that an insurance company would not pay out for a car with no MOT if you'd had an accident either.

I suspect when they find out you were driving illegally then you'll be in trouble of some sort (fine I would imagine)
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Old 06-05-2009, 18:41
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Yep, no MOT means the insurance would be invalid as well. It's part of the terms of insurance that you have a valid MOT certificate.
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Old 06-05-2009, 18:42
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Let's hope they throw the book at you. As has been pointed you were NOT legally entitled to drive on the road. No MOT invalidates your insurance. I suspect a heavy fine and points is heading your way.
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Old 06-05-2009, 18:43
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No your insurance will most certainly be invalidated without an MOT. So they could do you for that too, it depends on how picky they are. As far as insurers are concerned, regardless of whether you have paid your premium for the year, you will not be insured without the vehicle having a valid MOT cert.
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Old 06-05-2009, 18:45
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probly looking at 6-8 points and a fine....

according to this


http://www.drivingban.co.uk/drivingb...tinsurance.htm
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Old 06-05-2009, 18:47
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Let's hope they throw the book at you. As has been pointed you were NOT legally entitled to drive on the road. No MOT invalidates your insurance. I suspect a heavy fine and points is heading your way.

To be fair, I think it will probably depend on how out-of-date the OP's previous MOT was - if it is only a week or a couple of weeks then they might wave a finger at him and tell him to be more careful in future. But if he hasn't bothered for months on end then I agree with you totally.

He is very very fortunate that he hasn't had an accident in the interim.

And that is me being rather dramatically kinder than I usually am about these things - have I taken the wrong meds today ???
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Old 06-05-2009, 18:52
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Legally, the only time you can drive a car without a current MOT, is when you`re either taking the vehicle to or from a testing station for a test. Insurance must be in force.
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Old 06-05-2009, 19:01
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Is a valid MOT not a condition for road tax aswell? Or does it just have to be valid on the date of the tax disc renewal?

If it is, he could theoretically be done for that aswell...
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Old 06-05-2009, 19:10
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some of you seem to be getting alot of enjoyment out of my predicament - i'm glad i'm only after advice regarding a motoring incident and not a life threatening illness or something.

i'm only asking if the pc could have the discretion to extend the time for me to produce the document.

there is no way i will be getting points or a fine - i've already been told that - it was an honest mistake and only expired at the end of april.
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Old 06-05-2009, 19:14
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some of you seem to be getting alot of enjoyment out of my predicament - i'm glad i'm only after advice regarding a motoring incident and not a life threatening illness or something.

i'm only asking if the pc could have the discretion to extend the time for me to produce the document.

there is no way i will be getting points or a fine - i've already been told that - it was an honest mistake and only expired at the end of april.
Well then, if I were you, I would come clean to the officer in question and hope for a rap on the knuckles. I doubt they will throw the book at you for the sake of less than a week.
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Old 06-05-2009, 19:17
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Since it only expired at the end of april I think you should probably be fine.

Im not condoning what you have done but maybe just call them and tell them that you are waiting on the work to be done and that you already had it booked in for an MOT?
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Old 06-05-2009, 19:19
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some of you seem to be getting alot of enjoyment out of my predicament - i'm glad i'm only after advice regarding a motoring incident and not a life threatening illness or something.

i'm only asking if the pc could have the discretion to extend the time for me to produce the document.

there is no way i will be getting points or a fine - i've already been told that - it was an honest mistake and only expired at the end of april.

Failure to produce driving documents within 7 days, which is what you've been asked to do, is in itself an offence.

The only way to check whether or not the police will be willing to allow a longer period without charging you will be to contact them, explain the situation and ask the question.
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Old 06-05-2009, 19:21
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some of you seem to be getting alot of enjoyment out of my predicament - i'm glad i'm only after advice regarding a motoring incident and not a life threatening illness or something.

i'm only asking if the pc could have the discretion to extend the time for me to produce the document.

there is no way i will be getting points or a fine - i've already been told that - it was an honest mistake and only expired at the end of april.
Thing is if you'd hit someone you basically had invalid insurance so thats not just really a little thing.

Call the police station and explain the situation, obviously being very nice and polite the whole time. All you can do is ask and see what happens. If you just don't turn up with documents that'd be worse than trying to explain.

Maybe ask at the garage if you can defer payment? Or borrow the money off someone?

I dunno, maybe you can SORN the car till its fixed, not sure if that'd work tho.
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Old 06-05-2009, 19:31
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tbh the police were very good and could tell i was fully insured and legal to drive apart from the mot.

they told me to produce one within 7 days but i can;t because i can't afford the 130 to fix it.

i'm happy to leave it off the road until payday but that's outside the 7 days. i'm just wondering if i ring the policeman concerned and explained whether it would do any good.

Err NO Mot = not legal = no sympathy glad they caught you before you hit somebody or something.

Go and sign up to this http://www.mottest.net/ or http://www.mot-reminder.com/
so you wont forget next time!

somebody else with same problem http://www.digitalspy.co.uk/forums/s...d.php?t=751121

http://www.direct.gov.uk/en/Motoring...Mot/DG_4022108
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