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How many of the final eight might win?
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brangdon
17-05-2009
Originally Posted by nickymonger:
“James - again, what does he excel at? I'll be interested to see his PM skills this week.”

Agreed. In some ways I feel he's a safe pair of hands. If I had to give one of them £10m for a project, I'd feel less hesitation giving it to him than, say Kate. He seems a better team player than team leader, though.

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“Kate - I disagree that Kate hasn't shone. [...] I think she shone the week she was PM as it is one of the few weeks people really came together as a team.”

For me that was undermined by the fact that the same people had also worked well together the task before. She was given a great team and didn't screw it up, is all. It's not a negative, but it's not much of a positive, either. Also, the part she was involved with most closely, the advert itself, was the weakest. She made a lot of hasty decisions when there wasn't any need for such speed.
nickymonger
17-05-2009
Originally Posted by brangdon:
“Agreed. In some ways I feel he's a safe pair of hands. If I had to give one of them £10m for a project, I'd feel less hesitation giving it to him than, say Kate. He seems a better team player than team leader, though.

For me that was undermined by the fact that the same people had also worked well together the task before. She was given a great team and didn't screw it up, is all. It's not a negative, but it's not much of a positive, either. Also, the part she was involved with most closely, the advert itself, was the weakest. She made a lot of hasty decisions when there wasn't any need for such speed.”

I agree she made the advert too "complicated", but they were all involved in most of the task together from what I could see except the jingle vs advert segment. She made a couple of hasty decisions but at least her team got the products finished

By all means, I don't think is perfect.

I disagree about the team side though. Even SAS commented that she was the first PM Ben had complimented and the team was commended for working well together. They weren't commended the week before. And didn't they lose the week before after a huge cock up? I wouldn't say they had an easy ride at any rate. The other team was in the same position and yet got into huge rows, despite the two of the three mouthiest being on Kate's team (Ben and Debra).
Kevnaldo
17-05-2009
Contenders

Yasmina
Ben
Kate

Outsiders

James
Lorraine

No Chance

Howard
Debra
nickymonger
17-05-2009
Originally Posted by Kevnaldo:
“Contenders

Yasmina
Ben
Kate

Outsiders

James
Lorraine

No Chance

Howard
Debra”

I agree except I'd swap Howard and Lorraine around.
Tern
17-05-2009
I cannot believe that anyone thinks Ben is a contender.

You may be able to give him a little bit more that completely useless - he's no Michael Sophocles but never in a million years is he going to win.

I'd go with:

Contenders

Yasmina
Kate

Outsiders

James
Lorraine
Howard

No Chance

Ben
Debra
Monkseal
17-05-2009
Leaders :

Kate (but depends on how much she plays the media game that Phillip clearly wants to play over the coming weeks)
Yasmina

Dark Horse :

Howard

Rank Outsider :

James

No Chance In Hell :

Debra
Ben
Lorraine

Any other results would require a major overturn in terms of editing from what we've seen in previous series. Judging from how things have gone thus far, that's not happened.
brangdon
17-05-2009
Originally Posted by nickymonger:
“I disagree about the team side though. Even SAS commented that she was the first PM Ben had complimented and the team was commended for working well together. They weren't commended the week before. And didn't they lose the week before after a huge cock up?”

The previous week was the soap task. Yasmina and Paula did indeed make a huge cockup, but it was numerical, and Kate didn't really have the opportunity to make the same kind of mistake. And Paula was fired, so she wasn't around to make the mistake again herself. And Paula tried to blame Ben for the mistake, which rather ruined her chances of getting praise from him

Apart from Paula's numerical errors (and I'm including selling the soap too cheaply in that), the team worked really well together.

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“I wouldn't say they had an easy ride at any rate. The other team was in the same position and yet got into huge rows, despite the two of the three mouthiest being on Kate's team (Ben and Debra).”

Has Ben been argumentative on tasks? He has in the boardroom, I know, but when he's working he's pretty good. Debra can be mouthy, as can Yasmina, but again, all three of them were well-behaved when Paula was running the team.

The other team had Philip and Lorraine. Whichever one you blame the most, together they were a nightmare (which only Debra was able to control, and that before their animosity had really developed). It also had Mona and Nooral, neither of whom contributed much (from what we saw).

If we look back now, all of Kate, Ben, James, Debra and Yasmina are among the final 7. Of the other team, Kimberly, Mona, Nooral and Philip have been fired, leaving Howard and Lorraine. That indicates how strong Kate's team was and how weak Kimberly's was.
nickymonger
17-05-2009
Originally Posted by Monkseal:
“Leaders :

Kate (but depends on how much she plays the media game that Phillip clearly wants to play over the coming weeks)
Yasmina

Dark Horse :

Howard

Rank Outsider :

James

No Chance In Hell :

Debra
Ben
Lorraine

Any other results would require a major overturn in terms of editing from what we've seen in previous series. Judging from how things have gone thus far, that's not happened.”

That is probably a fairer assessment. The only reason I had Ben up there is to put a man in the mix and Ben has managed to calm himself down a bit. I still can't stand him though. Would like to see him questionned over Sandhurst though
Monkseal
17-05-2009
I don't think he's necessarily calmed down, it's just that he hasn't been in the Boardroom for a few weeks. That's always where he's at his most ludicrously aggressive.

But yeah, I do kind of hope he makes interviews and gets toasted. We haven't had a good Interviews evisceration since Paul in series 2.
marvola45
17-05-2009
Originally Posted by Monkseal:
“I don't think he's necessarily calmed down, it's just that he hasn't been in the Boardroom for a few weeks. That's always where he's at his most ludicrously aggressive.”

'Will you let me finish? Will you let me finish? Can I finish please?'

StarsShineBrigh
17-05-2009
Originally Posted by marvola45:
“'Will you let me finish? Will you let me finish? Can I finish please?'

”

He's just like the people on "debate" shows on Radio Ulster. I swear they spend more time yelling "let me finish" then actually debating anything.

Maybe it's a Belfast thing?

Lol, no offence is intended at all. I lived in Belfast myself. Hopefully I'll never find myself talking like that.

PS. I doubt it's a Belfast thing really. More like an arrogant so-and-so thing.
Imy786
19-05-2009
Kate is too blonde and good looking and after the controversy over Badger being overlooked, can;t see her winning it.

Lorraine Tighe is a swinger LOL so fat chance of her doing it either.

So I reckon it's Debra/Yasmina from the girls or Ben/Howard from the boys.
nickymonger
19-05-2009
Originally Posted by Imy786:
“Kate is too blonde and good looking and after the controversy over Badger being overlooked, can;t see her winning it.

Lorraine Tighe is a swinger LOL so fat chance of her doing it either.

So I reckon it's Debra/Yasmina from the girls or Ben/Howard from the boys.”

How would Kates hair colour stop her from winning? Or her looks?

I think Id understand the task with Philip letting her down, but then you mention Ben, who also had no sales in that task and has cocked her far more than her previously. Whilst I understand Yasmina and Howard, couldnt see Ben kept over Kate in a million years.
LaurieMarlow
19-05-2009
Originally Posted by nickymonger:
“How would Kates hair colour stop her from winning? Or her looks?”

Or indeed the fact that Lorraine is reportedly a swinger Siralun might find see that aspect of her personality as a positive thing.
nickymonger
20-05-2009
Originally Posted by LaurieMarlow:
“Or indeed the fact that Lorraine is reportedly a swinger Siralun might find see that aspect of her personality as a positive thing.”

lol

I didn't really mention Lorraine as imo she really doesn't have a hope in h*ll of making the final unless she puts on the performances of her life in the next few weeks and Kate as well as Yasmina really screw up.
thenetworkbabe
21-05-2009
Tonight was interesting. He put Kate and Howard together with Lorraine. An interesting choice as Lorraine looks there to be sacked if it all goes wrong - more so when she's made PM. Lorraine obliged by making enough mistakes to go if she had lost. Also allowed him to test out Kate and Howard to see if they could get on with Lorraine and whether Kate allowed the Philip issue to get in the way. Kate recovers Brownie points.

The other team looks like a competition to be the competition. Yasmina Ben and Debra are in the race. James doesn't impress much. Ben gets things wrong and sounds unconvincing in the boardroom. Debra looks determined and might have picked up a few brownie points for not arguing when she was being attacked by SAS. She's still added another wrong business call to her record though. Yasmina sailed through avoided any blame and added to her brownie point score too.

Next week he has to get rid of Lorraine or James unless someone else really mucks up. TV looks unfriendly to them as tasks go too.

My problem would be that he hasn't actually allowed Howard or Kate many chances to lead so he's a bit short on information who actually might do best. perhaps he fixes that next week by swapping them around again and making those 2 PM? Bit late though if they end up PM ing the final task too.
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