Is the name VIVA meant to stand for anything or is it just a name? I remember being excited about the launch of the channel because I thought it would be like VIVA Germany (which I remember watching when on holidays there and enjoying) but it seems I was wrong. I think they should bring back TMF and The Hits. I used to enjoy those channels.


LOL I had the CD single of that back in the day I was a bit of an Atomic Kitten fan. I'm not ashamed of it either I still have all their CDs and a couple of DVDs.

The original VIVA in Germany stood for "VIdeoVerwertungsAnstalt". Google translates this as "Video rendering plant".

OK, but does the UK version stand for anything or is the name the only thing they've got in common?

Personally I thought all channels had an "identity" or a "brand" somewhat that made it distinguish itself from others. MTV use to stand for Music Television (whilst the music is on its sister stations) but what does the M mean these days? We been told its an "entertainment" channel (well OK fair enough) but how many of these so called "music" channels using this route for doing other programming.

I didn't watch TMF alot if I am honest but when I seen it looked more like a younger version of "VH1" but I totally miss the requests the old way on these channels - there is nothing to really interact with them on apart from using twitter and hashtag them or be on facebook

Heat have a chart on tonight - Bathelerotte party - i'd say so far all but a couple of songs have been the same songs as all their other 'party charts'.

Mrs Slocombe

I'm sure MTV can still play the lower res versions - they do with the videos - it's just rubbish on their part.

It doesn't stand for anything and the two channels have pretty much nothing in common.

What the bloomin heck is a "bathelerotte" party read that at first as "batchelorette" party ... sweet mother of god even naming countdowns is getting worse!

Mrs Slocombe - oh aye

MTV and its "live" archive - thats true they seem to do it no bother playing low res videos back then but they seem they can't find the missing "live" performances! What a weird bunch this lot are!

I think if they had at least made an effort to show these performances it would have brought back at least some nostalgia for people who watched the EMA's in the 90's under MTV Europe to the then MTV UK from 1997! Look we also have a channel called MTV Live which can show these performances in well upscaled HD? But of course not!

It's probably a typo, but batchelorette party is the American term for hen party.

i wondered lol

Yes, it was Bacherlorette party. I originally spelt it Batcherlorette then deleted the c instead of the t and got my e's and o's mixed up and it ended up as something very weird

Yes, it's not just Clubland that are hopeless with their video archives, the 'great' MTV are just as bad it seems.

I was hoping to see the performances. MTV Live only show performances from not too long ago


You spelt it wrong too

I thought it was the female version of a Bachelor Either way, the songs were, in the main, no different to the 'Super Cheese Party' or the 'Noughties Party' or any of Bauer's other parties to be honest. Just a programme of the same/similar songs/artists for the sake of it.

Maybe next week we'll have an Autumn Party to lead us up to Haloween Party followed by Bonfire Party and Cross Dressers Party and so on...

LOL ..... but what is the point in MTV Live? I assumed when it was renamed from MTVNHD it was more about LIVE performances from the past to the present? All I see on it is basically MTV Hits followed by a LIVE performance then rinse and repeat! They need to get their fingers out and show more archived perfomances than be lazy with it all! I would rather see performances of yesteryear but we have VH1/MTV Classic that could do this but deary me I forgot they can't be that bothered either! The present management have no real idea on what to do with these channels, yet management of the past ran a one off event called "VH1 raids the MTV vaults" (this was under the circular VH1 logo) why do they not do these again? But I forget MTV (main) is their main target above anything else!

Yep, i'd have thought MTV Live would be ALL live music - but it's not

Just seen that bump and grind video you mentioned - sounds just like half the other modern day dance songs - same backing track/beat/style.

They are missing the trick with MTV Live in my mind - you see channels like Sky 1/FOX etc showing old programming that are possibly now in "upscaled" HD so why can't MTV do that? Or is this down to costs? If its costs there has to be irony in there somewhere for this lot not to bother investing!

R Kelly - Bump n Grind 2014 remix - I thought it was the full song remixed but I gave up on it halfway through as I was bored of it - video ain't that much better either!, I wouldn't mind if was all of the song danced up but using "parts" of the song naffed me off so I switched off, seems like modern dance for me is on the way out!

Can't see why it would cost MTV that much. Surely they have the equipment.

The version I saw was naff. I wish people would be a bit more original.

Clubland's classics chart tonight - at number 30, no Cascada yet. Huge disappointment. I'll know not to bother next time. I imagine their will be 1 in there, but having had 2 or 3 of other acts already, they've missed some big names.

Quite a lot of charts on tonight across the channels, but they are all the same songs that the channels usually play.

Regarding "upscaling" equipment you would think a network such as MTV would have but obviously it must cost too much to do it .... oh look this is from a network that has mostly "teleshopping" on its channels (must have some income) and they manage to make reality shows (rollseyes not at you) - yet just use Sky as an example - Sky 1 shows even older eps of The Simpsons in I think its "upscaled" HD as on guide says "HD" listed and these episodes are what? 1990/1993? Or even ITV with "Midsomer Murders" they show older eps in "upscale" - you could say on this part 2 commercial networks dealing with "general" entertainment and drama are able to do it but MTV just sits on its ass! (are we missing something here?)

The version of that song is exactly that naff and aint original but thats some music these days!

I barely watch "charts" on these channels I just don't see the point in them it looks like the same chart that was played last weekend under a new name - weekends are hardly different to weekdays, in the past I always felt watching these channels at weekends was a breather from music during the week but that too has fell into the normal weekday scene - I just wish weekends on these channels would provide something different ie play more obscure songs/artists but again the playlists are "safe", heck I remember about 1996-2000 music and music tv was my life, watch it after school and during the holidays but these days at times I can't bare to watch it - i'll give it say 10 mins if I know the song i'll stick but then if its just noise I switch then end up on say FOX or Sky 1 (this includes bumpers/trailers of MTV appearing on VH1)

Yesterday was the 20th Birthday of VH1 UK.

I remember the 10th in 2004 when they had a series of special programmes and documentaries about the music of the decade to mark the anniversary, plus Birthday themed countdowns and graphics.

This time, nothing at all.

Obviously VH1 these days they couldn't care less about - but I wonder if MTV UK would get any celebration I believe in 3 years time MTV UK will be 20!

In regards to VH1 in general if this management had more of a clue they bloomin well know that the channel does not need to be bombarded with MTV ads, why not cross promote each channels programmes? VH1 needs to go back to the drawing board and start from scratch

It's a shame really.

Ten years ago music tv was at a peak.

Today it's a dwindling industry and only a matter of time before closures. VH1 probably won't be around come 2024.

Well, lesser budgeted channels have upscaling. MTV obviously save their budgets for when Olly Murs and The Saturdays come in to present their shows.

All I got from the Bump & Grind song was a reminder that most current dance songs sound the same.

Heat have another chart tonight - another paty chart - Cocktail Party! So, 50 songs ( or 60?) that will be half the same songs as all the other charts and the other half will be songs from the same artists.

Clubland's charts today - two of them, same songs over and over like their other charts.

The chart they played yesterday had 'classics' in that they've never played before. If they thought it was a classic, they'd have played it by now, surely?

I was out most of the day but left the DVD to record various channels at various times. MTV Classic had some EMA stuff on, so will see what it was. I think one was a boring documentary with Americans talking over it.


Typical VH1.

It shows how much they have let VH1 rot that they don't even care anymore.

Clubland's number 38 vocal trance girl....Britney Spears.

I didn't see number 39 and number 40, but based on number 38, i'm going to guess Daphne and Celeste & Willow Smith.

Barrel well and truly scraped.

Looking at MTV Classic's EMA lookbacks - they have some of the footage but appear mainly to be showing 2000+ footage, so they must have an issue with the 90's.

Honestly, they should just show it as it was if they cannot upscale, after all, it is a 'classic' station. No-one is expecting 4k!

Wow really "trance" girl -- Britney where the hell did that come from, I will assume tweedy is featured in there also .... we reached the end of the barrel these days we are now scraping into the ground!

If they are having "issues" showing 90's performances they ain't doing to bad in regards of showing 90's hits! .... Did they not think they would feature performances pre 2000 or what? I forgot anything that happened before 2000 is mostly forgotten about or its the key songs that are mostly played

Pity that VH1 could have also used a show to promote the "EMA's" of yesteryear but from what you say even the "Classic" station is struggling!

Possibly the reason they don't want to show it is possibly the picture will look stretched and possibly pixelated (but they should know that by now they play the songs from that decade!) Come to think about its more of a pity if MTV ran a "countdown" to the EMA's ie used past shows as a countdown ie 1990-2014

MTV's budget - if they can afford acts to present countdowns they should have money to do upscaling - please don't tell me (not personally) that this lot at MTV just thought create HD channels but forget everything that happened in the past? This from a network heavily reliant on Teleshopping in the small hours of morning up til 6am on MTV channels and 9am on VIVA (excluding MTV Live their ONLY channel that broadcasts 24 hours without it!), but the budget must be blown on their crapadramas!

Charts at the weekend just look the same as it appeared during the day lol

Is that the highlight of the EMA's MTV can think of? Is when the Americans took over? MTV is mostly American and when it had its own division in Europe it was in my mind mostly European and you had both sets of artists featured these days its a joke

It was the Above and Beyond 'Everytime' remix, but she sings 20 words approx. Vocal Trance is pushing it.

I guess Girls Aloud were in there as Clubland like to play them.

Unfortunately, as time goes by, the older music, bar the ones they deem as classics, disappear, even on classic channels.

VH1 could have done something to mark the EMA's, but for some reason they just keep playing the same things. Taylor Swift's heartbreakers again tonight.

Vintage TV seem to do ok playing old music. Doesn't look too bad to me.

Clubland still don't have Cascada's new one. Two weeks the video has been out now, they are on Clubland's label and.....nothing. Bizarre. Not the greatest Cascada tune by some distance but they seem to promote a lot of their other acts to the point of overkill.

If they don't play it, that would be the third video in the last five not shown on UK TV and it's one of the biggest acts on their own label.

MTV are terrible now. Only two months away from them telling us who the next big acts are for 2015, only for them to forget about them all come February, unless they make it and then they remind us who broke them first.

EMA's are in Glasgow this year. Maybe you can go along and make a stand for the sake of music?

MTV - new acts - what new acts?? whats MTV? You mean VH1? lol

EMA's Glasgow --- nah i'll happily avoid it .... Nicki Minaj is presenting .... she'll be prancing around to starships/anaconda