That's good but not quite sounding like her I don't think you're her in disguise. I went to see her on Thursday and I wore my Britney shirt but she didn't tell me any dark secrets. I've read some of her research papers and I don't know who could understand them! Even I can't and I'm studying law.

I know Kesha released a couple of songs in 2009 (Tik Tok and the one with Flo Rida) but her debut album wasn't released until 2010 so isn't she closer to the 2010s than the noughties? Did you hear about the business with Dr. Luke? That was awful

They call current artists Old Skool too

2009 America I think was Kesha.

Sorry, that was me saying "She's never from the 00's" in shock.


No, i'm not her. My boobs aren't as big.

I heard something briefly - I don't keep up with Celeb news. I don't know if any truth was in it or not and I don't know the full story or who was involved.

Phew, that's ok then At least I know she isn't on DS Are you sure about that?! She tends to wear low cut dresses a lot and I don't particularly like it. I have a solution - mess around with Linux on my old laptop! I've been trying to get it working (as it was a Windows XP machine that needed a new lease of life) but for some reason it won't work. Might as well consign it to the tech scrapheap.

I don't want to post too much on here, but it was something to do with abuse and her contract. I read about it on another thread on here a couple of weeks ago. I don't know how true it is but if it's true I feel really sorry for her Dr. Luke worked with Britney on some songs as well. I think he produced most of her Femme Fatale album.

Current artists are "old skool" - please tell me someone is actually drunk at the wheel on that! - no sorry current artists aint "old skool" unless they have been around or had songs more than 30 years old (set it higher to be called it), it just proves the point you can be "old skool" no matter the decade (be 10's/00's) but yet artists of 70's/80's are wiped from history! Old Skool should be exactly that 70's-90's maybe 2020-30 then move onto the 00's/10's but its a joke really

I think your right it would be 09 for Kesha in US and 10 in UK

Well, moobs grow with age, but I can't match her.

I've tried Linux but have never got it to work. Recycling centre it is - but take the pics of her off first!

Dr Luke is pretty famous for a lot of pop artists. No doub tin the US Industry their will be lots of Saville esque rubbish that has happened.

Always thought something strange about the Disney people. Britney's backwards, JT is backwards, Aguilera is angry. Something has happened along the way.




They had an Old Skool RnB on the other night on Kiss with Nicki Minaj on it.

I still can't believe some artists have been around for so long. Just goes to show how much rubbish they have chucked out. Rihanna's been around 9 years yet she chucks out new rushed material all the time as it's selling because whilst she is popular fans don'tcare about quality.

I'm 'Old Skool' and like 3-4 months between releases. Quality has suffered at the hands of quantity.

Now's Million Vote is a complete farce.

Britney and Spice Girls fans are fighting it out on twitter, flooding it.

1.Britney 2.9m
2.Spice Girls 2.1m
3.Take That 657,000
4.Take That (2nd song) 92,000

Songs 25 and below have less than 100 votes each. People are just spamming to get the top two's votes up. Not a serious vote at all.

http://vote.nowmusic.com/

It also appears as if Clubland are giving less air time to their viewer selections and putting on more charts. I guess the app hasn't been a huge success. Looking at some of the feedback for it, a lot have problems with it and the promised upgrade hasn't happened. Facebook page has lots of complaints about the Clubland brand going off course too.

Oh right I hope this isn't too much info (as this is supposed to be a clean establishment!), but I don't think hers are all that big! She still likes wearing low cut dresses though, so she must have something to show off Maybe it makes the lads happy. In fact I'm wearing a low cut top myself today, but I have it hidden under a jumper so nobody notices.

I've tried over 13 different distros but only one of them worked properly. I don't know how to use it though and I'm a computer expert who grew up on computers and has used Macs and Windows versions going back to 3.1. It's very complicated! I might give Ubuntu Satanic Edition a try for Halloween though I don't have any pics of her on the Linux machine but I've got them on my tablet and Macs. My Macbook Air is full of 'em!

Yeah he did songs for Britney, Katy Perry, Kesha and god knows how many others! I haven't heard anything else about the scandal yet though. I remember reading that Britney wasn't very happy and was very disinterested and bored during the Femme Fatale era and I wonder is there more to it than just lack of interest in the music? It's a mystery alright. Some think the Illuminati are behind it, but that could be a load of rubbish. There are loads of conspiracy theories just about Britney on the 'net! Some people think she's programmed and a slave and all that. I take those conspiracy theories with a very small pinch of salt Mind you, there could be a sparkle of truth in them. And how do we explain Miley Cyrus' recent antics? Hmm...

I'm wearing a low cut top too....actually scrap that.....i'm wearing my wifes low cut top today

I'm not overly technical. I know how to use a PC pretty well but not to get too deep. Maybe you should post a pic of her on here and we'll try and get her in the next Scooter video or something

Ha! I think it really is just a case of them being too famous too young. As for the conspiracy theories - just a bit wacky. Not everyone is happy and we don't know the full stories of these people. Something definitely isn't right though and I would say some kind of abuse has happened in a lot of these peoples lives - I don't just mean the obvious kind, it could be about control. After all, they are worth millions, even billions to many people. Just look at these music channels - build them up, knock them down - it's so pretentious. The industry, like many, don't give a damn about the artists. They are just there to fawn over whilst they are big and then kick on the way down. Happened to Britney big style. Meltdown and she was ditched by so many, she comes back and they love her again and now it's so so.

Still, I hate it when these people call it hard work. Hard work is working for minimum wage in poor working conditions - or in some countries, much worse. These people have no idea what hard work is. It's why I don't have any feeling when they are in tears about breakups etc - if they lose a child or something really bad, then yes, but some of them get upset because an album flops - tough.

Heart keep playing the same spookiest hits - Take That - Could It Be Magic and Neyo - Beautiful Monster are just two of them - has to be the titles as the songs and videos aren't scary?

Really?! I saw my lecturer today and she was wearing black (but no low cut top) but my friend thought she was looking rather sexy (probably because she was wearing a skirt ). Lads, huh? Do they ever think about anything else?

I'm a bit of a tech geek but for some reason I had no luck with Linux! My dad thinks it's hilarious but he's only ever used Windows so he doesn't know any different That lecturer of mine uses a Mac as well. She has an iMac in her office, but yet she broke my Macbook charger back in February. The mind boggles I have photos but I'd better send them by PM or email as I don't want to post them here on a public forum where all and sundry can see it.

That's what I think too. Look at Britney for example. She's a classic case of child star gone off the rails. It happens to so many of them. I don't believe in all the Illuminati stuff. I think it's just nonsense! I don't think we'll ever know the full story of what happened in 2007, unless a tell-all book is released at some point in the future. Did you know Britney has an unreleased album called Original Doll which was due to be released in 2005/2006 and was supposed to be very raw and personal? Not many songs were released from the album and there are loads of conspiracy theories going around about why the album was never released. Then there was an unreleased song called Rebellion which was on her website in 2006 and only a snippet was ever released. Again there are loads of theories about the song. I guess there's more to the Britney story than what we already know. The build 'em up, knock 'em down is sadly all too common I don't know why people do it. I'm not sure what people think of Britney these days, but some laugh at me when I say I'm a Britney fan as they think it isn't "cool" to like her. Well I like her and I'd rather listen to her than some of the acts people think are "cool" (all those whiny boys with guitars bands and that kinda stuff).

Phew.. rant over!

Old Skool R&B - Nicki Minaj - yep pretty much sums up how that term has gone out the window (good grief these people in charge need a grip and get back in touch with reality - she ain't old skool (yet!) )

Rihanna - I liked her earlier music - ie Please Don't Stop The Music/Pon de Replay (I liked S&M but it was more of the David Aude remix - may have the remixer wrong) but music these days is just predictable - still the artists in "dance" are going can they get back to normal?

Clubland - LOL app fails and the viewers are actually getting their views noticed! I know it'll depend on management if they'll listen, I took on MTV for them to get their finger out their ass to revamp VH1 - they finally done it but I never got a reply back! I kind of had a go at them in regards of their reality tat and teleshopping as well but 1 out of 3 is a start!

But that is the problem with all these channels - they are aiming either for the "younger" demographic if not that its basically the same tat music everywhere and on every channel

Don't watch X Factor but caught the ad - A performance from Cheryl blah blah this week ... can we hazard a guess is she going to MIME the performance and will it be PRE-RECORDED before hand? (happened before) - can we chuck her songs out the window too?

Planet Pop now has an app to select tunes.

Apparently i'm the 6th person to download it, so we'll see if it takes more than 6 songs to play a selection

Lads do think about other things. Just not very often

I'm sure your lecturer could be the teacher in the remake of Baby One More Time

I don't know much to be honest, you'd better off be talking to the kids

I don't think any music act is 'cool'. All music is cheesy, just some more than others. Cool is whatever the industry throws it's money at. Cool is racist, sexist, thugs if that's what the industry wants at that time (Looking at Jay-Z, Beyonce and Chris Brown here) or maybe cool are wet boybands like 1D or whatever is on X Factor.


Never liked Rihanna, but at least she was about music at the beginning. Now she's all about instagram or whatever.

Clubland's owners have a new app - Planet Pop - I was number 6 to download - 5 songs in, my song is yet to be played....1 last chance or it's a farce!

You'll be lucky to get a reply at all. Even of facebook/twitter pages etc, they'll delete almost anything that's not kissing their butts.

Most of the younger demographic are usually at school or college/uni on weekdays. Should aim at other demographics in the day.

Cheryl has just named you as her biggest fan and will dedicate her performance this weekend, to you.

Planet Pop - 7 songs and mine hasn't beenplayed Clubland owned, why am I surprised it doesn't work

Aint they all really about "socialising" by networks these days?

Clubland - a new app? Gave up on first one trying again ... we all know whats going to happen. It'll be a farce lol

I don't get why channels do that - they ask/want feedback but not interested to their standards - bit of backward thinking there then! They may as well switch off communication with their viewers if they take no real interest in what they want or better yet try and provide a better service to the channel!

Cheryl can start taking singing lessons before she can dedicate a song to me - i'll go to my local shop and buy earplugs for her "deafening" performance (i'll also buy a cat and dog too so they can meow/howl with her) lol

The ones I know seem to think about my lecturer a lot. I must admit she's not ugly, in fact she's quite nice to look at () but some of them claimed they were sleeping with her! That's a load of rubbish. One of them had sex dreams about her every night and even one of the girls had a few. That same girl also wanted her to wear tighter clothes and she put it down on a feedback form. Maybe I should've said that I wanted her to wear low cut dresses more often Haha maybe me and some of my friends should remake the BOMT video and ask her to be in it

I see I think people's definitions of "cool" are different. Some think cool is whiny boys with guitars bands whereas some think cool is a teeny boyband. Music is subjective and we all have different tastes.

Bliss becomes Blissmas on 13th November, MTV Classic becomes MTV XMAS on 14th November, and VH1 switches to Christmas music from 15th November. Merry Christmas!

Wonder what VH1 Christmas will look like with the new graphic set?

Again .... MTV Classic - MTV Xmas VH1 plays Christmas music by chance will VH1 actually get a plug in on the ad for this or will that be ignored as usual (as I remember last year MTV basically heavily advertised MTV Xmas on all their channels including VH1) (rollseyes)

Really enjoying Clubland 25 years of massive dance right now, though a quick comparison with wikipedia has made me skeptical of some of the datea. Not that wiki can be fully trusted though.

Not watched a music channel for this long in ages.

Can someone tell me this - I noted on VH1 they ran a programme called "1989-Now Taylor Swift and friends" - so is the focus these days is it from 1989?


Also what the friggin hell is Taylor Swift - Shake it Off being played on KISS (TV) (I will assume that song is also played on KISS radio too), that has finally put the nail in the coffin for me going to watch KISS ever again (I will probably assume that its possibly been played on MTV Dance/Base?)

Taylor Swift has an album out called 1989 so they're just jumping on the bandwagon as she's apparently popular.

Kiss seems to think that trash such as Jessie J, Taylor Swift, Katy Perry, Ed Sheeran etc are classed as urban and dance.

Kiss, Flava, MTV Base and AKA which are supposed to be urban channels seem to have lost their identity (like the dance channels) and are more like pop channels. They should play R&B, Hip Hop and other urban music not trashy pop crap.

It appears a lot of them all base their careers on social media and all the pointless ego building nonsense that comes with it.

Well, the Planet Pop app is so buggy. The stream won't work and selections screen is so slow.

The channels, like the 'musicians' only want positive feedback. Negative feedback is considered 'trolling' or 'hating'.

Cheryl has just voted you her biggest fan. Your prize is a private rendition of 'Call My Name'



I'm worried the BOMT remake would be close to soft porn based on what you wrote there

For sure. I just don't see things as cool now i'm late 30's. Older....maybe wiser than I once was.


Great! Only if they play Cascada - Last Christmas, though

I'd not trust Clubland over Wiki to be honest, although they are better than most other channels for dates.


Yes, that'sthe only reason they are playing 1989.

Have to laugh at those names on Kiss. It really is very tragic.

The Vault seem to have new graphics, or am I imagining things. I'm sure they are a lot more bold and purple

AAAH as I noted from the year "1989" they had songs from Shania Twain - Still The One and Faith Hill - This Kiss (pity they can't highlight the years as they do in the countdowns!)

I am more confused by the channels identites these days - what I knew of the channel they seem to go off course!

That is the problem though and I think myself and possibly yourself and many others here have mentioned but the playlists on these channels is getting ridiculous - what you see on one channel will appear on another ie Daft Punk (MTV Dance) but they will appear on MTV Base as it features Pharrell Williams or as you say the likes of Ed Sheeran (I thought he be more MTV Rocks but guess it shows how wrong I am there) Jessie J Taylor Swift Katy Perry Cheryl Cole - I am sure they are just thrown on Dance/Base for the sake of it, if its a dance beat it'll obviously go on dance but if it features an urban artist it'll be base or if not its basically on the channel for no reason. As mentioned channels should be sticking to their original identities than going off on one - if this is more the case then why not basically close some and merge its simple really!

Thats true - Social Media to some of these "stars" let their egos go their heads!

Planet Pop app - ummm should they have test run it before releasing it to the general public? Heck when The Box started on Sky - the selection moved quicker along bottom compared to the cable version - obviously when they changed system in 00's it couldn't cope for some odd reason and that was the end

But how can "negative" feedback be "trolling" or "hating" they ask for feedback from viewers - what else do they want? Sun shining from their backsides? Yet they wonder why viewers are abandoning the channels but of course the simple solution is to become a entertainment channel to solve issues (really? what'll be next if further viewer decline - close? well d'uh! (not you lol) )

Cheryl - can she sing "she can't speak french" instead since well her name is french supposedly (rollseyes)

More changes with Chart Show channels

The Vault has a new look logo and song titles.

If the lads who have sex dreams about her are in control, then it's likely they'll want that kind of video I was talking to her a while ago. She wasn't wearing a low cut dress today I wanted to ask her a couple of things.

Well I'm the same. I listen to the music I like and I don't care what anyone else thinks of my music taste