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Neil_N
20-03-2015
On 4Music now - Totally Brilliant #1 hits -, all so far from 2013/2014! Ffs, what about the 60s, 70s, 80s and 90s - all golden eras.

Honest to God, I think we are seen a strangulation process music wise. Two or three big labels push their acts and about 25/30 key songs a year.
linkinpark875
20-03-2015
Originally Posted by Neil_N:
“On 4Music now - Totally Brilliant #1 hits -, all so far from 2013/2014! Ffs, what about the 60s, 70s, 80s and 90s - all golden eras.

Honest to God, I think we are seen a strangulation process music wise. Two or three big labels push their acts and about 25/30 key songs a year.”

Music channels in 2015 have a "very select" platlist. Somebody mentioned 80's in this thread earlier on but only power ballads. Music channels tend to stick to a ten year playlist.

That said some of Clubland's cheese is sounding a bit naff these days. The likes of N Trance set you free is over 20 years old somebody also said about them maybe wanting a classic channel for clubland music?
Neil_N
20-03-2015
Well this pointless #1 show had Pharell's "Happy" their #1 - the song that just won't die! On a personal level I do wish 2014 never happened. 2012 and 2013 too.

I was watching a documentary of Top of the Pops in 1979, and how that was the most diverse year in the mainstream. Rock, Reggae, Disco, Soul, Punk, New Wave/Electro and Pop and Ballads all lived hand in hand with each other and people got to know new genres and new acts. 2015 in the mainstream - Dance, Dance, Pop, Featuring Artists and oh 1D and their clones.

Would it hurt some of the music channels preferably 4music as I'm on A freeview-er, to have like an hour dedicated to rock, an hour dedicated to soul (Not Little dicks like Chris Brown, Rihanna and Justin Beaver but the true pure stuff like Frank Ocean), even some reggae even! It would stop the homogenity of the Top 40 and music channels from happening. If it could work in 1979, it could work today in 2015.

It's unthinkable to think now a song from 2014 (I'm looking at you John Legend, Clean Bandit and Pharell), is played to death on radio 12 months on!
kezo
20-03-2015
Originally Posted by linkinpark875:
“Music channels in 2015 have a "very select" platlist. Somebody mentioned 80's in this thread earlier on but only power ballads. Music channels tend to stick to a ten year playlist.

That said some of Clubland's cheese is sounding a bit naff these days. The likes of N Trance set you free is over 20 years old somebody also said about them maybe wanting a classic channel for clubland music? ”

Yet that is the problem with these channels overall is sticking to a certain decade and still play the same music - why do they not play more of the songs that didn't make it instead than highlighting the hits all the time?

N-Trance - Set You Free I agree its 20 years old still prefer the original to the remixed one (yet I hardly see the remix ever played these days) but they do know they had other songs than that but they fail to use it ie Stayin Alive was another hit from them but I have to yet see it appear on VH1/MTV Dance but I think they rather lock it away not to be seen on air for some strange reason

I would welcome more of a classic channel on VM as VH1 is buckling and Vintage TV seems to be the new VH1 but I don't have that many "classics" to see its all updated modern pap filling the air and as mentioned as well is the channels only care to play classics late at night/weekend more than actually during the daytime weekdays
kezo
20-03-2015
Originally Posted by Neil_N:
“On 4Music now - Totally Brilliant #1 hits -, all so far from 2013/2014! Ffs, what about the 60s, 70s, 80s and 90s - all golden eras.

Honest to God, I think we are seen a strangulation process music wise. Two or three big labels push their acts and about 25/30 key songs a year.”

They don't know these decades but they'll happy slag off the decades if they do play songs from them
kezo
20-03-2015
Originally Posted by Sylvester2007:
“Yes, their was nothing about it that said 'you can see why it's played at night' as it was just different music, well some of it. They chucked in the usual suspects too.

Weekends they are just lazy. I imagine less staff and so they can put things on rotate.

Like Gusto's Revenge, Toca's Miracle is one they mess up. Heart the worst when they on Time Tunnel 2000 and they play the 2008 version.”

But thats what I can't get round they have (well I believe they do) is a huge archive of music they could play going far back as the 60's (MTV Classic/VH1) in all genres but they can't be bothered to use them or than rotate at weekends or last thing at night before the magic of "teleshopping" appears - it seems to me that this lot seem to care is what the next big reality show hits the shores of MTV whilst music on all their channels overall is scraping barrels with the constant chart rundowns and "themed" charts on every day, as I mentioned before you could watch MTV Music and it feels like its MTV Hits (playing the same songs) where is variety in these channels? Play more diverse music from Rock, Pop, Dance etc than play the same artists day in/out it can't be that hard surely?
Sylvester2007
20-03-2015
Originally Posted by Neil_N:
“On 4Music now - Totally Brilliant #1 hits -, all so far from 2013/2014! Ffs, what about the 60s, 70s, 80s and 90s - all golden eras.

Honest to God, I think we are seen a strangulation process music wise. Two or three big labels push their acts and about 25/30 key songs a year.”

And this is one of the reasons why the music channels are struggling and have had to offer online options.

Originally Posted by linkinpark875:
“Music channels in 2015 have a "very select" platlist. Somebody mentioned 80's in this thread earlier on but only power ballads. Music channels tend to stick to a ten year playlist.

That said some of Clubland's cheese is sounding a bit naff these days. The likes of N Trance set you free is over 20 years old somebody also said about them maybe wanting a classic channel for clubland music? ”

Set You Free is a classic. We can't all be Ed Sheeran or Beyonce fans and all the poppy noise they represent.. Their are enough channels that play that kind of music so it's good that those who want 90's/00's dance can have a channel too and likewise with all the genres.. I'm sure Vintage TV play some old poor audio music too, but they have plenty of viewers. Today's music is as cheesy, if not more so, than a lot of older music.

Originally Posted by Neil_N:
“Well this pointless #1 show had Pharell's "Happy" their #1 - the song that just won't die! On a personal level I do wish 2014 never happened. 2012 and 2013 too.

I was watching a documentary of Top of the Pops in 1979, and how that was the most diverse year in the mainstream. Rock, Reggae, Disco, Soul, Punk, New Wave/Electro and Pop and Ballads all lived hand in hand with each other and people got to know new genres and new acts. 2015 in the mainstream - Dance, Dance, Pop, Featuring Artists and oh 1D and their clones.

Would it hurt some of the music channels preferably 4music as I'm on A freeview-er, to have like an hour dedicated to rock, an hour dedicated to soul (Not Little dicks like Chris Brown, Rihanna and Justin Beaver but the true pure stuff like Frank Ocean), even some reggae even! It would stop the homogenity of the Top 40 and music channels from happening. If it could work in 1979, it could work today in 2015.

It's unthinkable to think now a song from 2014 (I'm looking at you John Legend, Clean Bandit and Pharell), is played to death on radio 12 months on!”

Unfortunately you have people (see above) who only want Ed Sheeeran, Beyonce, Rihanna, Timberlake etc on their TV's. They aim at certain demographics and it's two fingers up to the rest of us.

The songs you mentioned getting played all the time are the same bland songs with no character that radio loves Radio friendly pop music along with Sheeran, Rita Ora and Meghan Trainor.

Originally Posted by kezo:
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N-Trance - Set You Free I agree its 20 years old still prefer the original to the remixed one (yet I hardly see the remix ever played these days) but they do know they had other songs than that but they fail to use it ie Stayin Alive was another hit from them but I have to yet see it appear on VH1/MTV Dance but I think they rather lock it away not to be seen on air for some strange reason

I would welcome more of a classic channel on VM as VH1 is buckling and Vintage TV seems to be the new VH1 but I don't have that many "classics" to see its all updated modern pap filling the air and as mentioned as well is the channels only care to play classics late at night/weekend more than actually during the daytime weekdays”

Yes, the remix isn't as good. Clubland do have Forever and True Love Never Dies. No Kung Fu Fighting though

Truth is, they probably won't get the viewers for older music. Plenty of us want it, but en mass, I doubt it would be viable. A bigger playlist would be welcome though.

Originally Posted by kezo:
“But thats what I can't get round they have (well I believe they do) is a huge archive of music they could play going far back as the 60's (MTV Classic/VH1) in all genres but they can't be bothered to use them or than rotate at weekends or last thing at night before the magic of "teleshopping" appears - it seems to me that this lot seem to care is what the next big reality show hits the shores of MTV whilst music on all their channels overall is scraping barrels with the constant chart rundowns and "themed" charts on every day, as I mentioned before you could watch MTV Music and it feels like its MTV Hits (playing the same songs) where is variety in these channels? Play more diverse music from Rock, Pop, Dance etc than play the same artists day in/out it can't be that hard surely?”

MTV are mainly about reality. I imagine they don't play a lot of older music due to the audio/video ratios etc.

They tend to play it safe and stick to the same artists and that will be their downfall.
kezo
20-03-2015
Originally Posted by Sylvester2007:
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Yes, the remix isn't as good. Clubland do have Forever and True Love Never Dies. No Kung Fu Fighting though

Truth is, they probably won't get the viewers for older music. Plenty of us want it, but en mass, I doubt it would be viable. A bigger playlist would be welcome though.



MTV are mainly about reality. I imagine they don't play a lot of older music due to the audio/video ratios etc.

They tend to play it safe and stick to the same artists and that will be their downfall.”

Yet they wonder why in general their channels are dwindling in numbers regarding music being played, you only need to look at VH1 and their figures (posted a while back)

MTV in all is basically reality tat thats inflicted on us all anyway - not much new there as with other general channels following the same way as well. But I think they need to be more open minded with their music than what comes across as closed and narrow minded but of course this is the way society has gone in general basically downhill quelle surprise!
Sylvester2007
20-03-2015
Originally Posted by kezo:
“Yet they wonder why in general their channels are dwindling in numbers regarding music being played, you only need to look at VH1 and their figures (posted a while back)

MTV in all is basically reality tat thats inflicted on us all anyway - not much new there as with other general channels following the same way as well. But I think they need to be more open minded with their music than what comes across as closed and narrow minded but of course this is the way society has gone in general basically downhill quelle surprise!”

I imagine they've thought of the future for when the channels are less needed. They will have other ideas as to how to take peoples money (MTV).

Bliss have a new 3 hour request show starting Wednesday at 5pm. Not sure if it's every day or just weekdays. On screen choices which you have to hashtag choices.

Will give it a look but i'm sure it's the obvious artists.
hyperstarsponge
20-03-2015
Originally Posted by Sylvester2007:
“I imagine they've thought of the future for when the channels are less needed. They will have other ideas as to how to take peoples money (MTV).

Bliss have a new 3 hour request show starting Wednesday at 5pm. Not sure if it's every day or just weekdays. On screen choices which you have to hashtag choices.

Will give it a look but i'm sure it's the obvious artists.”

Think that is that MTV Flax app. I removed that because it was just the same old crap.
Sylvester2007
21-03-2015
Originally Posted by hyperstarsponge:
“Think that is that MTV Flax app. I removed that because it was just the same old crap.”

MTV Trax?

Looks same old same old so never tried it.
chemical2009b
22-03-2015
Kezo and Sylvester2007, all I want to say is that you are both moaning tossers!
kezo
22-03-2015
Originally Posted by chemical2009b:
“Kezo and Sylvester2007, all I want to say is that you are both moaning tossers! ”

All I want to say to you is grow up and grow some balls ... and show some respect to fellow posters there is no need in calling anyone names.

You seem to forget its not just me that is moaning about the state of these channels but you seem to have a problem with me and Sylvester's point of view - I ain't happy with the way these stations are these days its a damn shame, I take it you failed to notice I PRAISED MTV Base recently on its UK Garage last week but you completely missed that or couldn't be assed reading it. I be happy if we just cut the crap on these channels and get back to the basic THREE channels how about that then as well as the Teleshopping - be value for money there!
Sylvester2007
22-03-2015
Originally Posted by chemical2009b:
“Kezo and Sylvester2007, all I want to say is that you are both moaning tossers! ”

This is an open forum and i'll post what I like without being insulting. I have that capability.

If you can't refrain from name calling, feel free to not view the thread or use an ignore function if this site has one, although I do find it a bit rich from someone who moaned about a few of us talking about VH1 on another thread so maybe you could take your own advice.

You'll find plenty of positive posts from myself and Kezo but I guess that doesn't appeal to you. The reason we moan is because we care about the channels and their is plenty of moaning on these boards, it's part of what they are here for.

If you don't like it, there are other sites that may be less sensitive for you or use the aforementioned options.
Sylvester2007
23-03-2015
I've seen MTV channels having the Spike 'coming soon' advertisments in the last day or two.

They say it's a brand new channel - is it brand new or a rebrand of Viva? I've not heard of Spike other than through here.
kezo
23-03-2015
Originally Posted by Sylvester2007:
“I've seen MTV channels having the Spike 'coming soon' advertisments in the last day or two.

They say it's a brand new channel - is it brand new or a rebrand of Viva? I've not heard of Spike other than through here.”

I know its a new channel to freeview as VIVA is going but i'll guess it maybe added to Sky/VM as well or in time? Its not a channel thats got me "hyped", already watch one of their own shows on CBS Reality (sometimes) and thats "unsolved mysteries" ... programme originally out in 90's and was later updated I think it was from 2006 (US release)
hyperstarsponge
23-03-2015
Spike TV will be a lot better then crap VIVA on Freeview.
Sylvester2007
23-03-2015
Originally Posted by kezo:
“ there is no need in calling anyone names.”

He/she is suspended now. I doubt they will learn but they called someone else something worse on another thread. Hopefully this is the end of it.

Originally Posted by kezo:
“I know its a new channel to freeview as VIVA is going but i'll guess it maybe added to Sky/VM as well or in time? Its not a channel thats got me "hyped", already watch one of their own shows on CBS Reality (sometimes) and thats "unsolved mysteries" ... programme originally out in 90's and was later updated I think it was from 2006 (US release)”

Any chance of music on it?

Originally Posted by hyperstarsponge:
“Spike TV will be a lot better then crap VIVA on Freeview.”

Will they show music? Is it leaving it's current Sky slot?

In other news, VH1 are showing 50 Songs Better Than Chocolate again tonight and MTV Classic are showing one of their Valentines shows again.

MTV Classic have just played The Ordinary Boys from 2006 - when was that last played on UK TV? (No need to answer...)
omnidirectional
23-03-2015
Just spotted the '50 Songs Better Than Chocolate" on Vh1, tuned in at Number 42 which was Mariah Carey. Whoever is programming VH1 must be a huge fan of her! Every chart seems to feature her ear piercing tracks.
kezo
23-03-2015
Originally Posted by omnidirectional:
“Just spotted the '50 Songs Better Than Chocolate" on Vh1, tuned in at Number 42 which was Mariah Carey. Whoever is programming VH1 must be a huge fan of her! Every chart seems to feature her ear piercing tracks.”

Someone at VH1 must know she needs the money these days I admit I only like 3 songs from her - All I Want for Christmas (I know too early to mention that one lol), I gave My All (David Morales Remix - surprised why that remix has never appeared on MTV Dance as a channel that full of playing present "remixes" these days) and Fantasy
kezo
23-03-2015
Originally Posted by Sylvester2007:
“He/she is suspended now. I doubt they will learn but they called someone else something worse on another thread. Hopefully this is the end of it.

Any chance of music on it?


In other news, VH1 are showing 50 Songs Better Than Chocolate again tonight and MTV Classic are showing one of their Valentines shows again.

MTV Classic have just played The Ordinary Boys from 2006 - when was that last played on UK TV? (No need to answer...)”

Name calling anyone on a forum especially expressing difference in opinion should be left open to debate - we are meant to act like adults not act immature - its not just us 2 that have expressed difference in opinion but from what I gather most of the people on this thread seem to agree these channels have turned into a farce and that once in a blue moon they actually put something decent on.

Spike TV - I can't see it playing any music on there if I am honest, I just see it being more like MTV and aiming to be a general entertainment channel (which in reality most channels these days are including your "documentary" channels)

VH1 is stuck on chart repeats once more - hardly surprising really, its a pity that their own music playlists are that limited it makes you wonder who can really watch these charts over and over - I just vote with remote and switch off - seems to becoming a new norm with me - look at these channels then switch and yet I still like my music .. shame really

The Ordinary Boys - 2006 ... well its the 00's its a decade they are aiming for whilst other decades are out again its like VH1 its more aimed at modern classics (using classics lightly here) but anything beyond 60's-80's will possibly get played once in a blue moon and it'll be part of their next countdown "not heard this in years!"
Sylvester2007
26-03-2015
Originally Posted by kezo:
“Name calling anyone on a forum especially expressing difference in opinion should be left open to debate - we are meant to act like adults not act immature - its not just us 2 that have expressed difference in opinion but from what I gather most of the people on this thread seem to agree these channels have turned into a farce and that once in a blue moon they actually put something decent on.

Spike TV - I can't see it playing any music on there if I am honest, I just see it being more like MTV and aiming to be a general entertainment channel (which in reality most channels these days are including your "documentary" channels)

VH1 is stuck on chart repeats once more - hardly surprising really, its a pity that their own music playlists are that limited it makes you wonder who can really watch these charts over and over - I just vote with remote and switch off - seems to becoming a new norm with me - look at these channels then switch and yet I still like my music .. shame really

The Ordinary Boys - 2006 ... well its the 00's its a decade they are aiming for whilst other decades are out again its like VH1 its more aimed at modern classics (using classics lightly here) but anything beyond 60's-80's will possibly get played once in a blue moon and it'll be part of their next countdown "not heard this in years!"”

Aye, nothing wrong with having an opinion, but it is just that, an opinion. It's also good to have a moan. Sitting back and accepting things in life has never been my way.

Over the recent past I have had contact with a couple of channels (moaning and requesting). Clubland eventually gave me what I wanted (complete Cascada back catalogue including songs they've NEVER played. It took a good while of nagging, but we got there) and I requested a Britney programme wirh CS Dance for a couple of my offspring. They agreed and it debuts on Monday. I figured if they can play Minaj, Beyonce, Rihanna, they could play anything as it's not really a fully fledged dance channel. It's taken them a month to sort it out - service! Sometimes moaning and seeking change gets you somewhere.

If Spike don't play music, they must move EPG surely?

VH1 playing the Chocolate chart again tonight. I forgot it was cake before. Maybe next time it will be better than pizza? Not that I think Pizza is anything but disgusting.

It is 00's but I thought it good they played a rare song. No doubt Timberlake, Beyonce, Rihanna, Pussy Cat Dolls etc were thrown in, but a rare song is nice to see, even if you don't like it.
Sylvester2007
26-03-2015
Originally Posted by omnidirectional:
“Just spotted the '50 Songs Better Than Chocolate" on Vh1, tuned in at Number 42 which was Mariah Carey. Whoever is programming VH1 must be a huge fan of her! Every chart seems to feature her ear piercing tracks.”

I'm sure they had their other favourites such as Pink, Alicia Keys, Westlife and Paloma Faith in there.

Maybe Mariah and Westlife together
Doghouse Riley
26-03-2015
The best "music channel," is YouTube. I use it all the time.
Every genre of music available, including new releases.

The TV channels are mostly playing contemporary pop.
I never bother with them.

Of course if you're into nostalgia.......


Help yourself!

http://www.1959bhsmustangs.com/VideoJukebox.htm
kezo
26-03-2015
Old Skool Dance Anthems on KISS tv tonight (no errors but surely rename the show?) but same songs I have seen countless times

Ultra Nate - Free (yes its a good song but she had follow up songs why not play the more lets say "unknown" in this?)
Rui Da Silva - Touch Me (on MTV Dance/Kiss - "old skool" no change there)
Roger Sanchez - Another Chance (another song thats never off), why not play his follow up "you can't change me" instead?
and finally....
The Source - You Got The Love 2006 remix - again why not play the first one or the 98-99 remix?

Old Skool should just be say 70's-90's music maybe Nu Skool - should be used as for present music? (suggestion, as anytime I see "Old Skool" I think the ol days of 70's upwards but it aint some of it is from 90's and mostly 00's to now it ain't much Old Skool really aint it?)
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