I believe the idea was that some of the programming from VIVA was supposed to be moving to 5*, but I'm yet to see that or anything of such in the schedules, although it's still early days. It doesn't bother me as I never watched anything on VIVA and I'm glad it's now music only, but can imagine the loss of those programmes will bother some people.

Does 4Music only have 25 songs - sick of seeing that Taylor Swift on there.

I do agree it is corrupt with streaming involved - should be sales only.

If VIVA came back on Freeview I wouldn't be surprised if the MTV programmes returned.

The only programmes that have moved is Catfish on 5* at 14:00 and Jackass on Channel 5 once a week in late night slot.


Rubbish music channel knows there have no completion now on Freeview so are being very lazy.

I hope it does as VIVA appealed to a lot of young people (mainly university students)

Spike TV is surly better as they know about Breaking Bad.

Spike can't rely on just that one show forever.

So should I be having a problem with streaming added as well then?

So far they are playing a mix. They have some programmes that have gone back to 80's, 90's and 00's.



A couple of days ago. Maybe that's why they added him.

Yes, it was Kylie again - I should be so lucky.


Yup I'd rather watch MTV Hits. Then again...

MTV Dance have got a 90s dance weekend. Makes a change from their usual output.

I also think VH1, MTV Classic and VIVA are improving? Not perfect by a long shot but better in the evenings at least!

90's dance weekend - it'll be the same as anything to do with 90's I reckon pity they can't play more unknowns but i'll hazard a guess what will be played

Gala - Freed From Desire
DJ Quicksilver - Bellissima
Sash - Encore Un Fois
Prodigy - Firestarter
Nomad - Devoution

MTV Dance 90's playlist is that predictable - why do they not play 80 or even 70's dance? They did that under the "devil" but I ain't holding out

I can't speak about VIVA/VH1 in the evenings recently but if they have improved its a miracle but it won't last

I would not be surprised if MTV programmes returned on there even with it being on SKY/VM

4Music - "Hot Vids We Wish Were In"

So far Katy Perry, Taylor Swift, Ed Sheeran and Beyonce with the overrated "Single Ladies" video. FFS, I could find three better looking women in the ward I am representing in the elections to make a better video! Wanna bet Rihanna, 1D, Sam Smith to make the full house?

I think the mainstream is getting more and more limited.

Aha, Leyton Bracegirdle formerly of Chart Show TV now runs MTV Dance, so we may notice a difference. Amazingly, they're currently showing 2 Unlimited vs Culture Beat - songs like "The Real Thing" and "Got To Get It" probably haven't been shown on MTV in 20 years!

yes but all of them are popular, I love them all especially Taylor Swift, she IS hot as far as I am concerned

MTV Dance has improved in the last few weeks.

The others you mention have improved too. It may not last, but we can hope.


Bauer are the most predictable. I'm sure they had Timberlake and Gaga in there too.

I think we have to accept music TV is aimed at kids, not just because of the music (and I appreciate not all 14-21 years olds like the same things, but how patronising these channels are.


Appalling presenter but so far it appears his management has done wonders for MTV Dance. Chart Show TV may regret letting him go and keeping the limpit Stefanie Faleo.


Well, we all have our likes and dislikes. I'm not really into girls like Taylor as she's too young, mentally and physically, but for the age range they are aiming it at, i'm sure she is to some, although I don't think my kids like her.

I think the gripe is that these channels are limited to a handful of artists. The same artists on repeat over and over and it's 90% of the channels that show the same artists. At least Clubland have a wider range of artists, even if a lot of them are not to my musical taste.

MTV and Bauer are just a yawn fest most of the time but as stated above, some of MTV's channels have improved and their output is a lot better. MTV Hits, MTV Music and MTV Live are just dire though. They need to mould them into one and use the other two spaces for an 70's/80's/90's channel and a proper rock channel as MTV Rocks is kiddy rock and soft core really.

Viva playing some 90's tracks on Sinful Sunday - Guilty Treasures too. And now an 80's track with Tiffany.

Seems Leyton Bracegirdle has the reigns here too.

Only complaint is they are showing old programmes (notably Little Mix Party Girls and Pixie Lott Pop Anthems) but putting in new songs into the countdown therefore not being what Litte Mix or Pixie presented in the first place. I know the guests don't really choose the tracks and are merely presenting, but it's a bit cheeky.

I think these guests just turn up, sit down in a fancy set for 10 minutes and read out a few lines then leave.

I've never liked these presenter shows on music channels as I prefer just music and if there is a presenter show then it should be live with the presenter reading out texts and tweet requests for videos between each song.

I was flicking through the channels the other day and it was either Zing, BritAsia or B4U Music in the international section who had a perfect live request show where somebody phone in to request music videos and speak to the host. It's a shame none of British music channels can do that.

It maybe an improvement - but surely it shouldn't take someone "new" to the channel to make these changes, MTV Dance should be playing more of these artists more often even if its mixed in with todays "dance", I just get annoyed with the channel when it seems to me at times they are taking the mick on being so called "limited" playlisting and playing the same tracks (even if you include those 2 artists listed), I still believe they need to overhaul VH1 next or better yet basically employ people that know all types of music (choose all the other channels)

The good old days of MTV Select on MTV Europe/UK and on UKPlay, I miss the phone ins on The Box and the other channels - I think back then you felt part of the community/channel(s) being interactive but these days it mindnumbing boring with basic automation - why they can't do these shows again I don't know but surely MTV can put on a show in between their usual tat?

I find it more odd that say you have seen a countdown a few months back and its possibly been altered - MTV/Bauer are guilty of this as well sadly

Is VIVA being morphed into VH1 Extra or something? Have not had time since earlier in week but playing 80's/90's tunes seems odd to me - I took VIVA was basically MTV Hits 2 - pity if this channels playlist is being more open they have just taken off Freeview seems a bit of a joke really

Leyton also schedules VIVA too. He's been at MTV since August 2014 according to his LinkedIn page.

Speaking of VIVA, their website is now awlfully out of date. No update of Freeview or Freesat channel numbers. It still has their VIVA shows section, even though they are music only for the time being.
They did update their facebook timeline image but it took them a day to re-upload it with the correct the Virgin Media channel number, after I was the one who pointed it out. Didn't even get a thank you!

VIVA website - you ain't kidding! Last time I checked it out within last week under their links they still highlight a reality show with Kerry Katona .... that show must be at least 6 years old now! (between 2007-09), good grief that is dated!

I think the heads at MTV UK/Viacom don't really care what viewers think/complain - I complained about the revamp and their joking around with their "disco" themes, contacted them by the website ie MTV UK - never got a reply or even an acknowledgement but then again these networks would rather have positive comments all the time rather than take on board what viewers complain about ie make some changes with the positive comments

how old are your kids, and Taylor's birthday is one day after mine, but music channels should be a good mix, much like radio stations do, and quite frankly I used to watch music channels all the time but now I don't

furthermore I am 30 and I love pop music today arguably more than ever, and Neil_n I never get tired of listening to Taylor Swift