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kezo
13-09-2015
Originally Posted by Sylvester2007:
“MTV Dance had a small revival earlier in the year but it's gone again.

Should be 4Entertainment - but isn't that E4?

I said earlier that Heat doesn't play current music - they play music in the charts not long ago, but not current. Looking at tonights playlist, it seems they have started playing current music, so it's morphed into Smash Hits.”

MTV Dance - it didn't last long .... but then again what did we expect? Look at VH1 we thought with a new look (eventually) there would be brand new material, what we got countdowns on songs that are better than cake and ballads galore sandwiched with repeats of the uk top 40 .... yep creative minds in that department! Where are the shows that expand the mind? Have shows like reggae, rock etc but of course they would just hire someone from a reality show to host it (and quite possibly no clue on the genres)

4Music - 4E by night .... As for Heat/Smash Hits surely one of them can be a more of a classic channel ... how many do we need showing the same thing? Its a trend I think they'll swing one way for a while then go back to basics again (kinda like MTV Classic ... it goes through Summer then it'll be Christmas again)
chemical2009b
15-09-2015
Whatever happened to my78 who used to blast the state of the dance channels quite frequently here in DS? Not even logged on since last November, maybe he died or was so fed up of how dire these channels had become that he gave up.
hyperstarsponge
15-09-2015
We don't have any real dance music channels in the UK anymore, Loads of good ones online through.
DigitalPunk
15-09-2015
Originally Posted by hyperstarsponge:
“We don't have any real dance music channels in the UK anymore, Loads of good ones online through.”

True.

Sad thing is most of the good channels have either closed down or rebranded as something totally different. Music TV today is very poor, I predict to see a few closures soon. Just looked on BARB for viewing figures and I've noticed Chart show TV has seen a huge loss of viewers lately, it used to be the best performing FTA music channel now the channel to receive the most viewers now is The Box. There seems to be a further decline in the ratings across the whole Sony/CSC music channels too. Particularly the rebranding of DanceNation to Chart Show Dance has been a total failure mind you even DanceNation was a flop too.
kezo
15-09-2015
Originally Posted by hyperstarsponge:
“We don't have any real dance music channels in the UK anymore, Loads of good ones online through.”

I thought that was MTV Dance? .... Oh wait my mistake
DigitalPunk
15-09-2015
Originally Posted by kezo:
“I thought that was MTV Dance? .... Oh wait my mistake ”

MTV Dance lost its identity a long time ago.
kezo
15-09-2015
Originally Posted by DigitalPunk:
“MTV Dance lost its identity a long time ago.”

I know ... its really another hits channel we could say the same for MTV LIVE

I caught couple nights ago on MTV CLASSIC - top 20 OMG moments - you know channel has well and truly lost credibility with the term OMG and featuring Miley Cyrus but of course MTV Classic is a more modern classic channel to what it was as VH1 Classic
DigitalPunk
15-09-2015
Originally Posted by kezo:
“I know ... its really another hits channel we could say the same for MTV LIVE

I caught couple nights ago on MTV CLASSIC - top 20 OMG moments - you know channel has well and truly lost credibility with the term OMG and featuring Miley Cyrus but of course MTV Classic is a more modern classic channel to what it was as VH1 Classic”

I still can't believe MTV's music channels are Pay TV let alone having Teleshopping and ads too, they're not premium enough IMO, Sky TV subscribers of the Variety pack are being ripped off, same content as the FTA music channels and even less music

MTV Classic is soo predictable and dull, when I used to receive it before I downgraded because the variety pack is just not that appealing enough. All I ever used to see on the channel was Beyonce who is so very overrated if you ask me, her and Rihanna, Gaga, Cyrus, Bieber, Taylor Swift, 1 direction, Nicki Minaj, David Guetta are the only artists I ever see on the channels which to me are instant put offs.
Sylvester2007
15-09-2015
Originally Posted by chemical2009b:
“Whatever happened to my78 who used to blast the state of the dance channels quite frequently here in DS? Not even logged on since last November, maybe he died or was so fed up of how dire these channels had become that he gave up.”

Cheery thought.

Maybe he's Leyton Bracegirdle in disguise.

Originally Posted by DigitalPunk:
“True.

Sad thing is most of the good channels have either closed down or rebranded as something totally different. Music TV today is very poor, I predict to see a few closures soon. Just looked on BARB for viewing figures and I've noticed Chart show TV has seen a huge loss of viewers lately, it used to be the best performing FTA music channel now the channel to receive the most viewers now is The Box. There seems to be a further decline in the ratings across the whole Sony/CSC music channels too. Particularly the rebranding of DanceNation to Chart Show Dance has been a total failure mind you even DanceNation was a flop too.”

Even Chilled is the same songs over and over.

[quote=kezo;79647710

I caught couple nights ago on MTV CLASSIC - top 20 OMG moments - you know channel has well and truly lost credibility with the term OMG and featuring Miley Cyrus but of course MTV Classic is a more modern classic channel to what it was as VH1 Classic[/QUOTE]

That American trash where all the brash Americans start saying how great the artists are and what they did was far out....waste of airtime. Just an hour long ad for the EMA's.

Originally Posted by DigitalPunk:
“I still can't believe MTV's music channels are Pay TV let alone having Teleshopping and ads too, they're not premium enough IMO, Sky TV subscribers of the Variety pack are being ripped off, same content as the FTA music channels and even less music

MTV Classic is soo predictable and dull, when I used to receive it before I downgraded because the variety pack is just not that appealing enough. All I ever used to see on the channel was Beyonce who is so very overrated if you ask me, her and Rihanna, Gaga, Cyrus, Bieber, Taylor Swift, 1 direction, Nicki Minaj, David Guetta are the only artists I ever see on the channels which to me are instant put offs.”

They'd only make the MTV channels free if they could find a way to make more price increases.

Worryingly, MTV Classic is MTV's best channel but it's as crap as you say it is.
kezo
15-09-2015
Originally Posted by DigitalPunk:
“I still can't believe MTV's music channels are Pay TV let alone having Teleshopping and ads too, they're not premium enough IMO, Sky TV subscribers of the Variety pack are being ripped off, same content as the FTA music channels and even less music

MTV Classic is soo predictable and dull, when I used to receive it before I downgraded because the variety pack is just not that appealing enough. All I ever used to see on the channel was Beyonce who is so very overrated if you ask me, her and Rihanna, Gaga, Cyrus, Bieber, Taylor Swift, 1 direction, Nicki Minaj, David Guetta are the only artists I ever see on the channels which to me are instant put offs.”

The irony of all is they have ONE channel not running teleshopping whilst others are, since when did they need teleshopping in first place ... 90s MTV VH1 were teleshopping free! Or is it hunger for profits? Look at Bauer/Ch4 - 4music is the only channel with teleshopping, yet MTV are meant to be the biggest

MTV CLASSIC I much preferred the VH1 version I was surprised how crap MTV UK has ruined it ... again having ads such as ex on the beach on it - good job MTV your aiming the channel in a different direction. I can get Beyonce on the channel but I would expect more Destinys Child than full on whack Beyonce but if they are playing what you listed, what we knew as classic is a new meaning now
DigitalPunk
15-09-2015
Originally Posted by Sylvester2007:
“Cheery thought.

Maybe he's Leyton Bracegirdle in disguise.



Even Chilled is the same songs over and over.



That American trash where all the brash Americans start saying how great the artists are and what they did was far out....waste of airtime. Just an hour long ad for the EMA's.

They'd only make the MTV channels free if they could find a way to make more price increases.

Worryingly, MTV Classic is MTV's best channel but it's as crap as you say it is.”

If and When the MTV music channels go FTA , I can see there being multiple closures across the network VIVA will be the first to go as a result also can see MTV Rocks , MTV Live and VH1 going too.

I reckon they will keep the HD music channel but they will replace MTV Live HD with MTV Music HD instead , I highly doubt that being FTA though. Sky/MTV would most probably want to keep MTV Music HD as part of the HD Pack like the other some other FTA channels with HD channels that are subscription - ITV2HD , ITV3HD ,ITV4HD , E4 HD , Channel 5 HD etc..

As for Chilled TV , it's a hit and a miss channel at the moment but I expect AATW to experiment with the channel over the coming months , I would like to see less of today's pop/chart hits though , if they must play certain artists they should only play them at peak times , during the late nights and early hours they should try playing more obscure classics and more edgier music genres like Trip Hop , Down Tempo , Lounge and Progressive Electronic music.
kezo
15-09-2015
Originally Posted by Sylvester2007:
“


That American trash where all the brash Americans start saying how great the artists are and what they did was far out....waste of airtime. Just an hour long ad for the EMA's”

yeah and in the classic clip with the great kimye they highlighted in that ema moments proves how ignorant some are!

The clip was when he had Pamela Anderson in the vid and he blew loads of money on it but he was less than happy with the winners (i believe they were a European act) so is it then over the years the emas may as well be the VEMAS if most us acts win?
Sylvester2007
16-09-2015
Originally Posted by DigitalPunk:
“If and When the MTV music channels go FTA , I can see there being multiple closures across the network VIVA will be the first to go as a result also can see MTV Rocks , MTV Live and VH1 going too.

I reckon they will keep the HD music channel but they will replace MTV Live HD with MTV Music HD instead , I highly doubt that being FTA though. Sky/MTV would most probably want to keep MTV Music HD as part of the HD Pack like the other some other FTA channels with HD channels that are subscription - ITV2HD , ITV3HD ,ITV4HD , E4 HD , Channel 5 HD etc..

As for Chilled TV , it's a hit and a miss channel at the moment but I expect AATW to experiment with the channel over the coming months , I would like to see less of today's pop/chart hits though , if they must play certain artists they should only play them at peak times , during the late nights and early hours they should try playing more obscure classics and more edgier music genres like Trip Hop , Down Tempo , Lounge and Progressive Electronic music.”

I can see MTV Live & Viva going and possibly MTV Music. Think all others will stay.

This is the problem with Chilled so far. Too many recent hits. AATW also start these channels and flatter to deceive from the off and nothing really changes.


Originally Posted by kezo:
“yeah and in the classic clip with the great kimye they highlighted in that ema moments proves how ignorant some are!

The clip was when he had Pamela Anderson in the vid and he blew loads of money on it but he was less than happy with the winners (i believe they were a European act) so is it then over the years the emas may as well be the VEMAS if most us acts win?”

Kimye....Eurgh.

Just think it's pointless having so many award shows.
Hitstastic
16-09-2015
Does anyone know the exact playlist for Magic, the music channel?

Every morning I flick through the channels and more often than not, when I switch to Magic they're playing Hey Ya! by Outkast. I mean, there are hundreds of thousands of songs that Magic could surely play but it seems to be the same 10 songs every hour.

I Wanna Dance With Somebody get played a lot on Magic too.
zeebre12
16-09-2015
But if they close MTV Live or Viva will they not just replace them with new music channels like what they did with Planet Pop?. Would they not have closed down Viva a few months ago when Spike replaced it on free view?
DigitalPunk
16-09-2015
Originally Posted by Hitstastic:
“Does anyone know the exact playlist for Magic, the music channel?

Every morning I flick through the channels and more often than not, when I switch to Magic they're playing Hey Ya! by Outkast. I mean, there are hundreds of thousands of songs that Magic could surely play but it seems to be the same 10 songs every hour.

I Wanna Dance With Somebody get played a lot on Magic too.”

Magic is stuck on a permanant loop , they only seem to play the same 200 videos over and over. I can't stand that Outkast tune either!

Magic also seem to play Aerosmith's I Don't wanna miss a Thing and Meatloaf's I'd Do Anything For Love (But I Won't Do That) and Celine Dion's My Heart will go on all the bloody time. The channel could be playing so many other songs but they can't be arsed to play them because it'll require them too much work , I swear who ever is running these channels has such narrow taste in music to be playing the same artists all the time. Either that or they've been manipulated by the labels to play them all the time.
kezo
18-09-2015
Originally Posted by DigitalPunk:
“Magic is stuck on a permanant loop , they only seem to play the same 200 videos over and over. I can't stand that Outkast tune either!

Magic also seem to play Aerosmith's I Don't wanna miss a Thing and Meatloaf's I'd Do Anything For Love (But I Won't Do That) and Celine Dion's My Heart will go on all the bloody time. The channel could be playing so many other songs but they can't be arsed to play them because it'll require them too much work , I swear who ever is running these channels has such narrow taste in music to be playing the same artists all the time. Either that or they've been manipulated by the labels to play them all the time.”

I agree on this but will say all them do this as well - to me its like they'll play something different at the weekend (if they can go and find it), but they don't do during the week? It would be a bit of an improvement in their playlists for a start, who ever controls the channels in general are just stuck with familar songs or it is the labels in control
kezo
18-09-2015
Originally Posted by Sylvester2007:
“ Kimye....Eurgh.

Just think it's pointless having so many award shows.”

Exactly .. urgh got no time for him now .... since he got with her he has completely lost it - thinking he is God or Yeezus (sorry Jesus), he needs to get rid of that big ego of his as it'll be his downfall

As for award shows I think in late 80's-90's they were OK but these days watching these award shows its embarassing to watch
Neil_N
18-09-2015
There is an award show for everything. What next one for the worst female personal hygeine?

As for that Outkast song, I am sure I've heard it more now than I did back in 2003-2004! I used to say with the video, the man is love with himself.
hyperstarsponge
18-09-2015
Ideas for Viacom as music TV is on its way out these days:

Close VH1 to make way for Spike+1
Close MTV Dance to make away for 5*+2
Close MTV Music to make away for Channel 5+2
Close MTV Live to make away for 5 USA +2
Close VIVA to make way for MTV +2
Close MTV Rocks to make way for Comedy Central Extra +1
Close MTV Hits to make way for BET +1
kezo
18-09-2015
Originally Posted by hyperstarsponge:
“Ideas for Viacom as music TV is on its way out these days:

Close VH1 to make way for Spike+1
Close MTV Dance to make away for 5*+2
Close MTV Music to make away for Channel 5+2
Close MTV Live to make away for 5 USA +2
Close VIVA to make way for MTV +2
Close MTV Rocks to make way for Comedy Central Extra +1
Close MTV Hits to make way for BET +1”

Do we really need anymore +1 +1.5 +2 channels? I know Sky is full of them but really get rid of the channels to be replaced by more timeshift channels ... Just close them/reduce the lot and also scrap the Teleshopping in wee small hours its about time this lot had balls and broadcast during the night or just close its simple really!
Sylvester2007
18-09-2015
Originally Posted by Hitstastic:
“Does anyone know the exact playlist for Magic, the music channel?

Every morning I flick through the channels and more often than not, when I switch to Magic they're playing Hey Ya! by Outkast. I mean, there are hundreds of thousands of songs that Magic could surely play but it seems to be the same 10 songs every hour.

I Wanna Dance With Somebody get played a lot on Magic too.”

Same music every day. Rarely will you find a song that shys away from it's usual stagnant playlist.

Originally Posted by zeebre12:
“But if they close MTV Live or Viva will they not just replace them with new music channels like what they did with Planet Pop?. Would they not have closed down Viva a few months ago when Spike replaced it on free view?”

Possibly but eventually closures are inevitable.

Originally Posted by DigitalPunk:
“Magic is stuck on a permanant loop , they only seem to play the same 200 videos over and over. I can't stand that Outkast tune either!

Magic also seem to play Aerosmith's I Don't wanna miss a Thing and Meatloaf's I'd Do Anything For Love (But I Won't Do That) and Celine Dion's My Heart will go on all the bloody time. The channel could be playing so many other songs but they can't be arsed to play them because it'll require them too much work , I swear who ever is running these channels has such narrow taste in music to be playing the same artists all the time. Either that or they've been manipulated by the labels to play them all the time.”

Probably manipulation and lack of talent to be able to produce a channel with a bit more variety.

Originally Posted by kezo:
“Exactly .. urgh got no time for him now .... since he got with her he has completely lost it - thinking he is God or Yeezus (sorry Jesus), he needs to get rid of that big ego of his as it'll be his downfall

As for award shows I think in late 80's-90's they were OK but these days watching these award shows its embarassing to watch”

Just another attention seeker who married.....an attention seeker.

I remember when Annie Lennox was up for British Female of the year every year even if she hasn't released any material.

Originally Posted by Neil_N:
“There is an award show for everything. What next one for the worst female personal hygeine?

As for that Outkast song, I am sure I've heard it more now than I did back in 2003-2004! I used to say with the video, the man is love with himself.”

Tina Arena would win that (apparently). She was hot back in the day too, but now she's just a stinky old timer

Originally Posted by hyperstarsponge:
“Ideas for Viacom as music TV is on its way out these days:

Close VH1 to make way for Spike+1
Close MTV Dance to make away for 5*+2
Close MTV Music to make away for Channel 5+2
Close MTV Live to make away for 5 USA +2
Close VIVA to make way for MTV +2
Close MTV Rocks to make way for Comedy Central Extra +1
Close MTV Hits to make way for BET +1”

Oh please, don't give them ideas.

Whilst they are being run by the labels, nothing is going to change.
linkinpark875
18-09-2015
Originally Posted by hyperstarsponge:
“Ideas for Viacom as music TV is on its way out these days:

Close VH1 to make way for Spike+1
Close MTV Dance to make away for 5*+2
Close MTV Music to make away for Channel 5+2
Close MTV Live to make away for 5 USA +2
Close VIVA to make way for MTV +2
Close MTV Rocks to make way for Comedy Central Extra +1
Close MTV Hits to make way for BET +1”

How about Spike 2 rather than a plus one?
linkinpark875
18-09-2015
Chill TV has too much 80's not much better than Bliss.
DigitalPunk
18-09-2015
Originally Posted by linkinpark875:
“Chill TV has too much 80's not much better than Bliss.”

Bliss is long overdue for a refresh , no doubt it'll be Blissmas in about 7 to 8 weeks from now , perfect time to coincide with a new logo and graphics.
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