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Old 18-04-2016, 15:37
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Face it music channels are dead in this country, 4Music actually gets better ratings being E4 extra at primetime.
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Old 18-04-2016, 20:04
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Face it music channels are dead in this country, 4Music actually gets better ratings being E4 extra at primetime.

More like the now entertainment channels to music channels (entertainment is the trend for now whilst music is pretty much dead), surprised 4Music shows E4 shows during primetime now - they may as well throw on Father Ted
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Old 21-04-2016, 21:25
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The playlists are the problem in general - plus its constant chart run downs. MTV Classic - Shabba Ranks was it Mr Loverman? (Shabba Shabba) ... sorry had to rub that in - I will say VH1 needs to show songs like this again THEY USE TOO (sorry for caps but VH1 did play that back in 90's), I am pretty sure these playlists are restricted its got to be?

Lou Bega - I just think they just wanted to play that song just for the sake of it - research on some of these charts are hardly done lets be honest!

I wish either Heat or Smash Hits became a channel for songs from say 70's OR 80's up to 00's than randomly have weekends or nights playing certain classics to then return to modern pap (This goes to MTV channels as well - it seems they are more obsessed to be modern as possible (no matter the channel) anything beyond 70's is forgotten, 90's music is a trend for now expect in next couple years the 90's will be forgotten and 00's will be the trend)

MTV Music - Soulful Voices - Zayn Malik? I know he was with 1D but soulful more like make my ears bleed
Shabba was Mr Loverman

Change Smash Hits - pointless channel when you have The Box.

Zayn is in at the moment. I'm sure they had Bieber on there as well

Face it music channels are dead in this country, 4Music actually gets better ratings being E4 extra at primetime.
The Vault's programmes get better viewing too.

Clubland ripping us off tonight. Their 20 most played ever is a rip off of Ultimate Clubland Top 20. Can't even be arsed to make a new programme.
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Old 22-04-2016, 14:06
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Following the sad death of Prince, MTV Classic had switched to a loop of his videos by 8pm last night. By this morning all the MTV music channels had joined in, and it now looks like they'll continue through the rest of today at least.

I think this is the first time that all MTV music channels have joined together to run a tribute.
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Old 22-04-2016, 14:14
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Didn't they do that for Michael Jackson?
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Old 22-04-2016, 16:31
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So every single MTV channel except MTV Live and MTV are showing 'Prince: A Tribute'. Is there any need. VH1, MTV Classic and MTV Music I'd argue with but every single one? Hits, Rocks, Viva, Vh1, Dance. Overkill IMO
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Old 22-04-2016, 18:09
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The Prince thing is overkill. They didn't even do this much for Bowie and he was British

Since when was Prince a 'Dance' artist and who realistically can watch 6-8 channels at the same time?

I understand they may wish to honour an artist, who by the way they only ever played one or two tracks of on VH1 as part of a chart, and I think it's good for his remaining fans, but MTV's fake outpour of emotion is way OTT.

Bauer are pretentious as anything, but they don't hide the fact that they are celebrity based and don't really care about music whereas MTV are constantly telling us they are about music and not celebrity - if they were they'd be playing Bowie, Prince, Jacko consistently, but they'll be back to 1D v Little Mix on a loop tomorrow.

I can count on one hand the amount of Bowie tracks i've seen since the week after his death - fake grieving & fake tributes aren't attractive.

Just another reason not to watch a falling station or eight.
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Old 22-04-2016, 21:08
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They did do this with Michael Jackson too on all MTV Channels.

Whitney Houston Tributes were only on MTV Hits , MTV Base , MTV Classic and VH1 as was Bowie (apart from MTV Base which instead was MTV Rocks)
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Old 22-04-2016, 21:31
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So every single MTV channel except MTV Live and MTV are showing 'Prince: A Tribute'. Is there any need. VH1, MTV Classic and MTV Music I'd argue with but every single one? Hits, Rocks, Viva, Vh1, Dance. Overkill IMO
If this lot at MTV were sensible enough they really could have kept the tribute to MTV Classic/VH1 (freeview: VIVA exception)

But sorry I have to laugh why was Prince even doing on MTV Dance/Rocks? -- it shows you how stupid this lot at MTV UK really are! I did not see the tributes on these channels but I will agree seems a bit of an overkill
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Old 22-04-2016, 21:36
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If this lot at MTV were sensible enough they really could have kept the tribute to MTV Classic/VH1 (freeview: VIVA exception)

But sorry I have to laugh why was Prince even doing on MTV Dance/Rocks? -- it shows you how stupid this lot at MTV UK really are! I did not see the tributes on these channels but I will agree seems a bit of an overkill
Seems MTV want it's viewers to turn to its competitor channels Clubland and CS Dance.
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Old 22-04-2016, 21:39
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The Prince thing is overkill. They didn't even do this much for Bowie and he was British

Since when was Prince a 'Dance' artist and who realistically can watch 6-8 channels at the same time?

I understand they may wish to honour an artist, who by the way they only ever played one or two tracks of on VH1 as part of a chart, and I think it's good for his remaining fans, but MTV's fake outpour of emotion is way OTT.

Bauer are pretentious as anything, but they don't hide the fact that they are celebrity based and don't really care about music whereas MTV are constantly telling us they are about music and not celebrity - if they were they'd be playing Bowie, Prince, Jacko consistently, but they'll be back to 1D v Little Mix on a loop tomorrow.

I can count on one hand the amount of Bowie tracks i've seen since the week after his death - fake grieving & fake tributes aren't attractive.

Just another reason not to watch a falling station or eight.
You could also argue its the ONLY TIME they actually raid their "unused" archived music videos (more likely they are played on their European channels) -- MTV UK of today is pathetic and I agree on this its too "fake" as I mentioned above why was Prince on MTV Dance? Still laughable they actually put something different on that they could do on a daily basis but choose not too, but if a musician dies the tributes are on and the videos they hardly play are out, but I agree the next day its back to the same pap again

Also as mentioned above - if MTV UK were sensible they really could have kept the tribute to at least 3 channels - VH1/MTV Classic and VIVA (Freeview) but to go all out on the other channels is a bit much.

Heck if we went to pre-digital age - you would more likely have seen tributes on MTV/VH1 mostly but of course its "celeb" orientated these days (as per Bauer)
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Old 22-04-2016, 21:41
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Seems MTV want it's viewers to turn to its competitor channels Clubland and CS Dance.
Isn't that their objective? I get that impression anytime I watch VH1 - plaster MTV bumpers on there is enough for me to go elsewhere! - I go to Vintage....
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Old 22-04-2016, 21:44
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Just checked that MTV Dance European is not playing Prince videos , it's business as usual.
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Old 22-04-2016, 21:47
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Shabba was Mr Loverman

Change Smash Hits - pointless channel when you have The Box.

Zayn is in at the moment. I'm sure they had Bieber on there as well

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LOL Shabba! (Shabba!) - awaits a remix to appear on Clubland

Smash Hits - I agree aim the channel more of an 80's upwards channel (but that ain't going to happen who we kidding? Most of these channels is all about modern pap but happy stick old skool stuff from 70's upwards on a weekend or as usual slag it off )

FFS .... Soulful Voices - who makes up this pap? They really need to look at more of Whitney (OK Adele is 50/50) but others from the past if they want "Soulful" or is this another term these days like the other term they use "old skool"
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Old 22-04-2016, 21:50
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Just checked that MTV Dance European is not playing Prince videos , it's business as usual.
Maybe those at MTV Europe (I know London ... the irony) at least its business as usual - is it nitwits that control MTV UK? I think those that control MTV Europe need to give those that are running the MTV UK versions a kick up the ass!
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Old 22-04-2016, 21:56
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Maybe those at MTV Europe (I know London ... the irony) at least its business as usual - is it nitwits that control MTV UK? I think those that control MTV Europe need to give those that are running the MTV UK versions a kick up the ass!
They should close the entire UK versions down and replace them with the European feeds. No ad's be a good thing because MTV's music channels are PAY and should be AD FREE!

MTV as the main channel should be the only channel to be localised with ad's.
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Old 22-04-2016, 22:24
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They did do this with Michael Jackson too on all MTV Channels.

Whitney Houston Tributes were only on MTV Hits , MTV Base , MTV Classic and VH1 as was Bowie (apart from MTV Base which instead was MTV Rocks)
And only MTV Classic and VH1 have played Jackson since bar when Timberlake tried to make money out of a collab. Those two channels barely play him.

You could also argue its the ONLY TIME they actually raid their "unused" archived music videos (more likely they are played on their European channels) -- MTV UK of today is pathetic and I agree on this its too "fake" as I mentioned above why was Prince on MTV Dance? Still laughable they actually put something different on that they could do on a daily basis but choose not too, but if a musician dies the tributes are on and the videos they hardly play are out, but I agree the next day its back to the same pap again

Also as mentioned above - if MTV UK were sensible they really could have kept the tribute to at least 3 channels - VH1/MTV Classic and VIVA (Freeview) but to go all out on the other channels is a bit much.

Heck if we went to pre-digital age - you would more likely have seen tributes on MTV/VH1 mostly but of course its "celeb" orientated these days (as per Bauer)
It is pretty much the only time. I bet they can't wait for the next big name to die!

MTV Dance for Prince is pointless. My main gripe is 8 channels of it. Who seriously can watch 8 channels at once? Yes, people flick, but they watch Prince, flick...oh look it's Prince, flick, oh wait, look, it's Prince. Stick to two channels max. No wonder these channels are dying as people who don't want this will turn to Bauer, CSC etc or go to YouTube etc. Like I say, I understand a couple of channels, but 8 is pointless.

Just checked that MTV Dance European is not playing Prince videos , it's business as usual.
It's only the British who have fake grief and force it upon others then. That and the British Music Industry couldn't tell you the difference beween Dance, Rock and RnB etc

LOL Shabba! (Shabba!) - awaits a remix to appear on Clubland

Smash Hits - I agree aim the channel more of an 80's upwards channel (but that ain't going to happen who we kidding? Most of these channels is all about modern pap but happy stick old skool stuff from 70's upwards on a weekend or as usual slag it off )

FFS .... Soulful Voices - who makes up this pap? They really need to look at more of Whitney (OK Adele is 50/50) but others from the past if they want "Soulful" or is this another term these days like the other term they use "old skool"
Rumours are they called you Mr Loverman in years gone by

Considering Smash Hits is an old magazine which was around in years gone past, you'd think they may be interested in those eras.

Soulful is anything they deem as important right now. They'd whack Adele on MTV Rocks if they could.

They should close the entire UK versions down and replace them with the European feeds. No ad's be a good thing because MTV's music channels are PAY and should be AD FREE!

MTV as the main channel should be the only channel to be localised with ad's.
I understand some ads as most channels are but MTV as pay channels should have no teleshopping. The European Feeds replacing UK versions would be nice. We saw how bad MTV Live became when they stopped production from Poland.
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Old 22-04-2016, 22:24
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Interesting to note that there seems to be a distinct effort on the part of MTV in the US to reinvigorate the brand and return it to its music and pop culture roots with the return of MTV Unplugged and a new weekly live music show Wonderland.

http://thepub.viacom.com/sites/mtvpr...16release.aspx

NEW YORK, NY – April 21, 2016 – MTV, a unit of Viacom (NASDAQ: VIAB, VIA) today revealed a programming slate of fourteen new series and specials, including "Wonderland," the network's first weekly live music performance series in nearly twenty years debuting this fall. The network will provide a first look at the new series – along with projects with partners Mark Burnett, Zac Efron, Drew Barrymore, Pitbull, John Legend, Dwayne Johnson and Dany Garcia, and more – at the 2016 MTV Upfront at Skylight at Moynihan Station tonight in New York, NY.

"We're on a mission to reignite MTV with everything that makes it one of the world's most iconic brands – its soul of music, its love of pop culture, and its unexpected, groundbreaking creative," said Sean Atkins, President of MTV. "What we share today is just the beginning, but it's a strong first step in the journey and shows how aggressively we are moving to energize the extraordinary promise of this great brand."

MTV committed to bringing more live music and music-inspired programming to the network, announcing greenlights for "Wonderland," a new L.A.-based weekly music series featuring live performances from three different acts; a yet-untitled music competition series from Executive Producer Mark Burnett; and a newly reimagined version of the beloved "MTV Unplugged." Additionally, MTV announced a deal with Scooter Braun Films to develop "Studio 24," in which a famous artist and mystery talent are paired to create a new song in 24 hours. The network is also in development on new music documentary series "Year One," which will draw on its trove of archival footage to explore the breakthrough year in a superstar's career.
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Old 22-04-2016, 22:32
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Interesting to note that there seems to be a distinct effort on the part of MTV in the US to reinvigorate the brand and return it to its music and pop culture roots with the return of MTV Unplugged and a new weekly live music show Wonderland.

http://thepub.viacom.com/sites/mtvpr...16release.aspx
Whilst it sounds like a good idea, you know it will end up being the same old MTV crap we are used to where they will focus on the same artists over and over and it will end up being a celebrity fest.

Just in the press release the names Zac Efron, Drew Barrymore, Dwayne Johnson and Dany Garcia tells me it's an advertisment for things other than music as well, so more celebrity nonsense. I don't even know who Mark Burnett is.

We live in a celebrity age where music comes second to fame, fortune and fandom.

We'll then have a UK version hosted by Zane "I'll kiss your ass to your face but slag you off behind your back" Lowe, Becca "Fangirl" Dudley and someone who wins MTV's look for a presenter where they can also win a fashion makeover and the chance to meet Laura Whitmore and Tinie Tempah.
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Old 22-04-2016, 22:53
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They should close the entire UK versions down and replace them with the European feeds. No ad's be a good thing because MTV's music channels are PAY and should be AD FREE!

MTV as the main channel should be the only channel to be localised with ad's.

Being honest I would welcome all European versions to replace the UK ones - the UK ones did have dignity in the past but these days its horrible and offputting

I agree MTV (main) should be ads for UK but scrap the teleshopping crap for starters!
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Old 22-04-2016, 22:59
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Whilst it sounds like a good idea, you know it will end up being the same old MTV crap we are used to where they will focus on the same artists over and over and it will end up being a celebrity fest.

Just in the press release the names Zac Efron, Drew Barrymore, Dwayne Johnson and Dany Garcia tells me it's an advertisment for things other than music as well, so more celebrity nonsense. I don't even know who Mark Burnett is.

We live in a celebrity age where music comes second to fame, fortune and fandom.

We'll then have a UK version hosted by Zane "I'll kiss your ass to your face but slag you off behind your back" Lowe, Becca "Fangirl" Dudley and someone who wins MTV's look for a presenter where they can also win a fashion makeover and the chance to meet Laura Whitmore and Tinie Tempah.
I think MTV UK needs a major overhaul - Revamp all the channels, give them their own identity than being under one generic.

VH1 - get some programming on, I'm all for music but can we please drop the non stop charts and ballads, improve the playlists (again on ALL)

Stop being obsessed with Celebs and basic reality shows - there is such a thing as balancing it out, even if the MTV channel played music by day, programming by night (again they done this with VH1!)

Make actual half decent programming for all the channels than focus on ONE then rinse and repeat the shows or as I mentioned why do they not put on old MTV shows on VH1 (trial run) see if it attracts the older generation to watch? (scrap the bombardment of MTV/C5 ads too bring back cross sharing ads)
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Old 23-04-2016, 22:36
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I think MTV UK needs a major overhaul - Revamp all the channels, give them their own identity than being under one generic.

VH1 - get some programming on, I'm all for music but can we please drop the non stop charts and ballads, improve the playlists (again on ALL)

Stop being obsessed with Celebs and basic reality shows - there is such a thing as balancing it out, even if the MTV channel played music by day, programming by night (again they done this with VH1!)

Make actual half decent programming for all the channels than focus on ONE then rinse and repeat the shows or as I mentioned why do they not put on old MTV shows on VH1 (trial run) see if it attracts the older generation to watch? (scrap the bombardment of MTV/C5 ads too bring back cross sharing ads)
I think they need to stick to the genre they have chosen to go with. Dance means Dance, Rocks means Rocks, although I know this is changing.

VH1 were the only channel to play Prince all day today which is acceptable. Probably the easiest channel to change the programming of as it would just have been charts anyway.

Will you be signing up to Hayu, Kezo. £3.99 a month gets you all the reality programmes before they hit UK screens

Apparently Khloe Kardashian has a new show in 4Music - Apparently it's different as it's just her and a few friends......and her sisters Nothing is off limits - Bet they don't talk about Kim's sextape, so it's not strictly off limits.
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Old 23-04-2016, 23:01
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Prince emcompasses all music genres melding them altogether, to ask why put a Prince Tribute on a Dance music channel really shows your lack of knowledge, i guess everyone who attended a huge dance party to honour him at First Avenue were listening to other artists dance music he didn't write, arrange, compose, produce or perform.
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Old 24-04-2016, 07:42
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Just seen an advert for chilled tv on channel 5
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Old 24-04-2016, 10:35
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Prince emcompasses all music genres melding them altogether, to ask why put a Prince Tribute on a Dance music channel really shows your lack of knowledge, i guess everyone who attended a huge dance party to honour him at First Avenue were listening to other artists dance music he didn't write, arrange, compose, produce or perform.
I understand that point but why was he on MTV Dance - he may have had a few songs that were "dancy" (fair enough .... 1999, Raspberry Beret just 2 that pop into my head), but to say the channel is playing "ballads" from him on there is a bit stupid is it not? (MTV Dance played Man in The Mirror, Your Not Alone and a few others for his tribute but really are those songs appropriate for a Dance channel?)

My understanding is quite simple for a channel like MTV Dance and similar channels is sticking to the genre but these days its full of modern pap, let alone they hardly delve into the archives of the 70's let alone 80's on there of Classic Dance (again you could throw Michael Jackson, Whitney, Prince but they won't do that until its a tribute)
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