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kezo
24-04-2016
Originally Posted by Sylvester2007:
“I think they need to stick to the genre they have chosen to go with. Dance means Dance, Rocks means Rocks, although I know this is changing.

VH1 were the only channel to play Prince all day today which is acceptable. Probably the easiest channel to change the programming of as it would just have been charts anyway.

Will you be signing up to Hayu, Kezo. £3.99 a month gets you all the reality programmes before they hit UK screens

Apparently Khloe Kardashian has a new show in 4Music - Apparently it's different as it's just her and a few friends......and her sisters Nothing is off limits - Bet they don't talk about Kim's sextape, so it's not strictly off limits.”

Channels need to stick to their genre but these days I find it ever confusing, as the MTV channels are morphed into one - MTV Hits is the same as Live/Music/Dance

Prince/VH1 - they may have just stuck to this channel in first place since there is bug all in different programming! I just done a quick google, seems MTV US done a special airing of his film - Purple Rain (but I doubt MTV UK hardly thought of that or to air it as a one off film on VH1!)

Hayu - I have been wondering what the ad was about on the side of buses recently, nah your ok i'll avoid it - i'll stick to CBS Reality for Unsolved Mysteries, Cops and Judge Judy (which is also available on CBS Drama )
4Music is pretty much morphing into some sort of Kardashian channel ... lets be honest the channel is now airing 2 broke girls inbetween 8 out of 10 cats these days ... awaits a new name to appear
Sylvester2007
24-04-2016
Originally Posted by Neil King:
“Prince emcompasses all music genres melding them altogether, to ask why put a Prince Tribute on a Dance music channel really shows your lack of knowledge, i guess everyone who attended a huge dance party to honour him at First Avenue were listening to other artists dance music he didn't write, arrange, compose, produce or perform. ”

No, he doesn't, no-one does.

I don't remember Prince performing any operatic music, death metal music, rave music or grime, but a good attempt at a 15 year old's put down (I can do passive aggressive with added smiley too )

If he has released any of the above, i'm sure you'll be happy to share your far superior knowledge I'm always willing to learn and be proven wrong, it's how I eventually get to being right.

The discussion was about music channels playing his music, not music he had written for others.
Sylvester2007
24-04-2016
Originally Posted by kezo:
“Channels need to stick to their genre but these days I find it ever confusing, as the MTV channels are morphed into one - MTV Hits is the same as Live/Music/Dance

Prince/VH1 - they may have just stuck to this channel in first place since there is bug all in different programming! I just done a quick google, seems MTV US done a special airing of his film - Purple Rain (but I doubt MTV UK hardly thought of that or to air it as a one off film on VH1!)

Hayu - I have been wondering what the ad was about on the side of buses recently, nah your ok i'll avoid it - i'll stick to CBS Reality for Unsolved Mysteries, Cops and Judge Judy (which is also available on CBS Drama )
4Music is pretty much morphing into some sort of Kardashian channel ... lets be honest the channel is now airing 2 broke girls inbetween 8 out of 10 cats these days ... awaits a new name to appear”

I don't even watch Hits/Live/Music - they are pointless these days.

MTV/VH1 have done more for Prince than they did for Bowie. Bowie was British and been around longer. I know it's personal opinion, but for me he was a far superior artist to Prince. Ironically drugs may have ended their lives early and I have no sympathies for that, but that's another story.

I just hate reality full stop - I see it as a waste of time, of which i'll never get back. It goes back to the Big Brother days when people just watch people in a house I even try and not spend too long online and I have made my kids go out over the years rather than stay in (they don't watch reality TV either). Rather than waste that time, they've learnt to go out and do things and enjoy the great outdoors - no time for reality nonsense here and no time for being porky becuase of lack of exercise watching The Kardashians
kezo
25-04-2016
Originally Posted by Sylvester2007:
“I don't even watch Hits/Live/Music - they are pointless these days.

MTV/VH1 have done more for Prince than they did for Bowie. Bowie was British and been around longer. I know it's personal opinion, but for me he was a far superior artist to Prince. Ironically drugs may have ended their lives early and I have no sympathies for that, but that's another story.

I just hate reality full stop - I see it as a waste of time, of which i'll never get back. It goes back to the Big Brother days when people just watch people in a house I even try and not spend too long online and I have made my kids go out over the years rather than stay in (they don't watch reality TV either). Rather than waste that time, they've learnt to go out and do things and enjoy the great outdoors - no time for reality nonsense here and no time for being porky becuase of lack of exercise watching The Kardashians ”


On the odd occasion if nothing is really on MTV Dance or VH1 I will look onto MTV Live but yet I wonder why bother? There is nothing different just the odd live gig been shown (no .... not your rock stuff unfortunately more of the modern pap stuff)

MTV/VH1 should give tributes accordingly - but I see no real need in spreading them across so many channels - this is one thing they need to do is reduce it to 3 at least if it happens again), come to think about it - was there ever any tribute on MTV for the lead singer of Earth Wind and Fire? I see there has been no mention of it on here so I wonder if he was ignored? So are the tributes now pick and mix?

I only watched Big Brother on Channel 4 say about 3 times (but this was dodgying in between series 1-3), I got bored of it, its another show that needs to go but so does everything in that genre - if people want a dose of real life - look at the world everyday it is reality, there is no cameras no directors its YOU, you make your life no one else
Sylvester2007
25-04-2016
Originally Posted by kezo:
“On the odd occasion if nothing is really on MTV Dance or VH1 I will look onto MTV Live but yet I wonder why bother? There is nothing different just the odd live gig been shown (no .... not your rock stuff unfortunately more of the modern pap stuff)

MTV/VH1 should give tributes accordingly - but I see no real need in spreading them across so many channels - this is one thing they need to do is reduce it to 3 at least if it happens again), come to think about it - was there ever any tribute on MTV for the lead singer of Earth Wind and Fire? I see there has been no mention of it on here so I wonder if he was ignored? So are the tributes now pick and mix?

I only watched Big Brother on Channel 4 say about 3 times (but this was dodgying in between series 1-3), I got bored of it, its another show that needs to go but so does everything in that genre - if people want a dose of real life - look at the world everyday it is reality, there is no cameras no directors its YOU, you make your life no one else ”

As i've said before, 8 channels is OTT - Don't recall Earth Wind and Fire bloke, or Percy Sledge or Papa Wemba who has just died - MTV like to think they are diverse and cover all genres across the globe. Tributes are based on what they think will get them ratings.

It's funny, I looked at Bauers website - music fanatics I think they described themselves as, or similar. Think they meant celebrity fanatics.

The thing is, Big Brother may have been remotely interesting back then - it was an experiment. Now all reality shows are scripted and with the music/talent ones, manipulated.

Still, if people are happy, so be it. Just seems a waste to me but I guess we all have different things going on.
Declan_McGrath1
26-04-2016
Flava have been in breach again from Ofcom showing the Niki Minaj video, High School, seriously do people have anything better to than complain, plus Channel AKA is on its final warning from Ofcom, regarding Licence fee Payments, you can see all of this on the Ofcom website.
omnidirectional
26-04-2016
Originally Posted by Declan_McGrath1:
“Flava have been in breach again from Ofcom showing the Niki Minaj video, High School, seriously do people have anything better to than complain, plus Channel AKA is on its final warning from Ofcom, regarding Licence fee Payments, you can see all of this on the Ofcom website.”

Have you got a link for that bit about AKA?
Declan_McGrath1
28-04-2016
Im trying to find the link for you
kezo
28-04-2016
Originally Posted by Sylvester2007:
“As i've said before, 8 channels is OTT - Don't recall Earth Wind and Fire bloke, or Percy Sledge or Papa Wemba who has just died - MTV like to think they are diverse and cover all genres across the globe. Tributes are based on what they think will get them ratings.

It's funny, I looked at Bauers website - music fanatics I think they described themselves as, or similar. Think they meant celebrity fanatics.

The thing is, Big Brother may have been remotely interesting back then - it was an experiment. Now all reality shows are scripted and with the music/talent ones, manipulated.

Still, if people are happy, so be it. Just seems a waste to me but I guess we all have different things going on.”

8 channels of tribute to an artist is indeed OTT, yet this lot fail to understand to keep it minimal, surprised no tribute on MTV Live but I forgot thats an HD channel so thats a no go channel!

Music/Celeb fanatics - quite honest the channels are more celeb or so called celeb fanatics music is second (or channels running music its the same celebs)

Reality shows - I would say good in the beginning but very much on the wane - back then it was talked about, these days hardly! - I think most of the public are tired of these shows - pity the UK can't make more Total Wipeout (the only decent show), follow the US one still (don't get tired of it - again its a show that comes with different ideas)

As with Big Brother (never followed them recently), but reading on the forums found it interesting at times those who won were related to MTV shows , people say its fixed (even I do yet I don't follow it BUT it can't be coincedence on the winners?)
Sylvester2007
30-04-2016
Originally Posted by kezo:
“8 channels of tribute to an artist is indeed OTT, yet this lot fail to understand to keep it minimal, surprised no tribute on MTV Live but I forgot thats an HD channel so thats a no go channel!

Music/Celeb fanatics - quite honest the channels are more celeb or so called celeb fanatics music is second (or channels running music its the same celebs)

Reality shows - I would say good in the beginning but very much on the wane - back then it was talked about, these days hardly! - I think most of the public are tired of these shows - pity the UK can't make more Total Wipeout (the only decent show), follow the US one still (don't get tired of it - again its a show that comes with different ideas)

As with Big Brother (never followed them recently), but reading on the forums found it interesting at times those who won were related to MTV shows , people say its fixed (even I do yet I don't follow it BUT it can't be coincedence on the winners?)”

They didn't even mention Papa Wemba.

This is the problem when certain companies take over music channels or the channels need money. Here have a few quid just push One Direction every day.

I don't watch reality tv but i've heard lots of fix claims. Simon Cowell knew Leona Lewis before she was famous - I think she's great, but the programme was used to promote her before inevitably winning.
Sylvester2007
01-05-2016
Clubland's Remix show has pulled out some oldie but not necessarily goodies.

N-Trance - Do Ya Think I'm Sexy and Paradise City
kezo
01-05-2016
Originally Posted by Sylvester2007:
“Clubland's Remix show has pulled out some oldie but not necessarily goodies.

N-Trance - Do Ya Think I'm Sexy and Paradise City ”

I will give them a bit of credit for airing N Trance - Do You Think I'm Sexy .... when was the last time we ever seen that on MTV Dance?

Again it proves a point why is it at times Clubland can do this but MTV seems stuck in the year 2000 mostly?
kezo
01-05-2016
Originally Posted by Sylvester2007:
“They didn't even mention Papa Wemba.

This is the problem when certain companies take over music channels or the channels need money. Here have a few quid just push One Direction every day.

I don't watch reality tv but i've heard lots of fix claims. Simon Cowell knew Leona Lewis before she was famous - I think she's great, but the programme was used to promote her before inevitably winning.”

Hmm MTV playing with music history these days? Who woulda thunked it?

The channels these days is more about the record labels/certain artists/songs (more celeb based now than before)

Reality shows a la X Factor - over the years its become a fix - you just got to look at the fake facade behind it all (tears and tantrums), the deadlocks etc, its not really about the talent - its just about money (both for Cowell and ITV)
Neil_N
02-05-2016
4Music - "Greatest Music Videos of the 21st Century" so far songs from 2016, 2010, 2015, 2014 - er....did the whole period of 2000-2009 did not exist then?
Sylvester2007
02-05-2016
Originally Posted by kezo:
“I will give them a bit of credit for airing N Trance - Do You Think I'm Sexy .... when was the last time we ever seen that on MTV Dance?

Again it proves a point why is it at times Clubland can do this but MTV seems stuck in the year 2000 mostly?”

A lot of Clubland's stuff may be cheesy but at least they dare to go there. MTV are just way too cool in their own eyes and instead play really cool acts like Tinie Tempah, possibly the cheesiest rapper ever. He makes Vanilla Ice seem like the coolest man ever,.

The likes of MTV Dance don't often like to go ,Old School.

Originally Posted by kezo:
“Hmm MTV playing with music history these days? Who woulda thunked it?

The channels these days is more about the record labels/certain artists/songs (more celeb based now than before)

Reality shows a la X Factor - over the years its become a fix - you just got to look at the fake facade behind it all (tears and tantrums), the deadlocks etc, its not really about the talent - its just about money (both for Cowell and ITV)”

MTV have a new vote via hashtag - Pop Champs - it will be the same as every other year although they've seemingly omitted Britney this year, probably as she always comes near the top and wrecks their plans for the top 10.

Reality TV is anything but Reality - it's all scripted/fixed etc.

Originally Posted by Neil_N:
“4Music - "Greatest Music Videos of the 21st Century" so far songs from 2016, 2010, 2015, 2014 - er....did the whole period of 2000-2009 did not exist then?”

It was an old chart from about 2013 that was voted for by the public that they've ripped a lot of the tracks out of and replaced with recent tracks. Britney was number 2 but they took it out and replaced it with Taylor Swift hence the voiceover guy was only introducing the songs that were in the original recording.

Just cheap, lazy programming once again from Bauer.
kezo
02-05-2016
Originally Posted by Sylvester2007:
“A lot of Clubland's stuff may be cheesy but at least they dare to go there. MTV are just way too cool in their own eyes and instead play really cool acts like Tinie Tempah, possibly the cheesiest rapper ever. He makes Vanilla Ice seem like the coolest man ever,.

The likes of MTV Dance don't often like to go ,Old School.



MTV have a new vote via hashtag - Pop Champs - it will be the same as every other year although they've seemingly omitted Britney this year, probably as she always comes near the top and wrecks their plans for the top 10.

Reality TV is anything but Reality - it's all scripted/fixed etc.



It was an old chart from about 2013 that was voted for by the public that they've ripped a lot of the tracks out of and replaced with recent tracks. Britney was number 2 but they took it out and replaced it with Taylor Swift hence the voiceover guy was only introducing the songs that were in the original recording.

Just cheap, lazy programming once again from Bauer.”


MTV Dance needs to play that sort of dance - if they are playing bieber etc then go into archives, play steps, play corona etc but as you say they want to be cool today

Reality is exactly that- 4Music is evolving more Kardashian, New addition I Am Cait FFS Channel 4 why?

They played Ms Jackson by Outkast on countdown on 4music
Sylvester2007
03-05-2016
Originally Posted by kezo:
“MTV Dance needs to play that sort of dance - if they are playing bieber etc then go into archives, play steps, play corona etc but as you say they want to be cool today

Reality is exactly that- 4Music is evolving more Kardashian, New addition I Am Cait FFS Channel 4 why?

They played Ms Jackson by Outkast on countdown on 4music”

Khloe's Kocktails or something as well - Kardashian show that is different but has her sisters? Nothing's off limits, so their will be talk about Kim's sextape then?

Could be worse, they could play Hey Ya - again!

Magic's countodwn - 30 we use to fancy (or similar) 30 people that used to be fancied apparently......but they have repeated a few of them
kezo
03-05-2016
Originally Posted by Sylvester2007:
“Khloe's Kocktails or something as well - Kardashian show that is different but has her sisters? Nothing's off limits, so their will be talk about Kim's sextape then?

Could be worse, they could play Hey Ya - again!

Magic's countodwn - 30 we use to fancy (or similar) 30 people that used to be fancied apparently......but they have repeated a few of them ”

yeah that talk show too, seriously what gives Channel 4, is 4Music Kardashian Central?, losing more credibility with 4Music

Made a change than Hey Ya but they do know they had other songs

30 we use to fancy....you know its more about songs there if they are placed elsewhere
hyperstarsponge
03-05-2016
Originally Posted by kezo:
“yeah that talk show too, seriously what gives Channel 4, is 4Music Kardashian Central?, losing more credibility with 4Music

Made a change than Hey Ya but they do know they had other songs

30 we use to fancy....you know its more about songs there if they are placed elsewhere”

Actually it means that they don't think the Kardashian are good enough to be on E4, Could be called E4 reject channel
kezo
03-05-2016
Originally Posted by hyperstarsponge:
“Actually it means that they don't think the Kardashian are good enough to be on E4, Could be called E4 reject channel ”

4Music had a bit of integrity when it was repeats of fonejacker but kardashian they really need to be ashamed of themselves for putting more of that tat on it
Sylvester2007
06-05-2016
Originally Posted by kezo:
“yeah that talk show too, seriously what gives Channel 4, is 4Music Kardashian Central?, losing more credibility with 4Music

Made a change than Hey Ya but they do know they had other songs

30 we use to fancy....you know its more about songs there if they are placed elsewhere”

I think The Kardashian's will do anything to get on TV, it's really quite embarrassing.

I doubt they do know Outkast had other songs. I had to laugh when I read Bauer's website suggesting they were music enthusiasts. Looking at their TV output, I don't think their music enthusiasm goes very far.

They are playing that 50 Greatest Music Videos of 21st Century again - Ellie Goulding - On My Mind - seriously? Yes folks, they are enthusiastic alright, enthusiastic for the same old artists despite how bad the videos are.
ellesworth
07-05-2016
I'm assuming that VH1 have made a large balls up. Either that or they've gone for complete irony. Playing, what is supposed to be "Songs To Make You Feel Good" and apparently the Cranberries- Zombie is one.

Another head hangs lowly
Child is slowly taken
And the violence caused such silence
Who are we mistaken

But you see it's not me
It's not my family
In your head, in your
Head they are fighting
With their tanks and their bombs
And their bombs and their guns
In your head,
In your head they are cryin'
kezo
07-05-2016
Originally Posted by ellesworth:
“I'm assuming that VH1 have made a large balls up. Either that or they've gone for complete irony. Playing, what is supposed to be "Songs To Make You Feel Good" and apparently the Cranberries- Zombie is one.

Another head hangs lowly
Child is slowly taken
And the violence caused such silence
Who are we mistaken

But you see it's not me
It's not my family
In your head, in your
Head they are fighting
With their tanks and their bombs
And their bombs and their guns
In your head,
In your head they are cryin'”


Ballsed up I reckon however if they had gone for the danced up version A/D/A/M ft Amy they could have gotten away with it!

I am surprised that no one checks these before play out, I get mistakes happen but come on sensible playlisting!
kezo
07-05-2016
Originally Posted by Sylvester2007:
“I think The Kardashian's will do anything to get on TV, it's really quite embarrassing.

I doubt they do know Outkast had other songs. I had to laugh when I read Bauer's website suggesting they were music enthusiasts. Looking at their TV output, I don't think their music enthusiasm goes very far.

They are playing that 50 Greatest Music Videos of 21st Century again - Ellie Goulding - On My Mind - seriously? Yes folks, they are enthusiastic alright, enthusiastic for the same old artists despite how bad the videos are.”

All things Kardashian, its an embarassment from the US and its been inflicted on us in the UK (I don't mind US shows etc) but 4Music has became a joke of a channel - I wouldn't mind if they invested in programming related to music - what do The Kardashians got to do with music? (exclude Kanye) - utter bullcrap!

I think they should know - do they not remember The Box (phone requests?), even they to have an archive that can be used more often but choose not too!

Bauer music output - Radio (Heatradio example - is not bad), reflect on the TV channel of the same name - it ain't the same! (different output BUT playing modern pap), saying that I have noticed Heatradio is allowing "rap" versions of songs now through where few years ago it was avoided but yet they played the likes of Flo-Rida, I guess someone told them that they are giving a mixed impression of output
omnidirectional
08-05-2016
On Friday 27th May, MTV Classic temporarily rebrands as MTV 90s.

Schedule for first day:

06:00 Wake Up.. MTV 90s is Here!
10:00 Nineties Nice and Cheesy! Top 20
12:00 90 Hits That Made The 90s
20:00 Massive 90s Dance Anthems! Top 50
01:00 Extreme 90s
02:00 100% 90s
03:00 Teleshopping
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