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Itsallaboutyou
12-07-2013
Originally Posted by kezo:
“.....oh well turn off already .... pity they could have had "useless" facts on musicians of the past ie Corona or MC Sar and The Real McCoy ... as I can't see VH1 playing those sort of tracks unless its in a "worst ever" category ”

Agreed. It seems these music channels are too obsessed with x is fit and Beiber/Will.i.am/Illumanti etc lol

I noticed that a lot of the channels are very similar. I saw the Union J takeover on TWO channels. The barber my brother goes to had it on VIVA and it was on an MTV Channel!! What the? Plus it was the same shite, Beyonce and a.n.other controlled crap.
Sylvester2007
12-07-2013
Originally Posted by kezo:
“.....oh well turn off already .... pity they could have had "useless" facts on musicians of the past ie Corona or MC Sar and The Real McCoy ... as I can't see VH1 playing those sort of tracks unless its in a "worst ever" category


I wonder when they play Rihanna or Chris Brown they have a question ... who was caught in a fight couple years ago?? (by the way I am against men hitting women but again surprised why the hell he seems to have been slapped and yet she rolled over totally baffling!)”

A better question would be - If what they say happened, happened, why has she taken him back?



Originally Posted by Itsallaboutyou:
“Agreed. It seems these music channels are too obsessed with x is fit and Beiber/Will.i.am/Illumanti etc lol

I noticed that a lot of the channels are very similar. I saw the Union J takeover on TWO channels. The barber my brother goes to had it on VIVA and it was on an MTV Channel!! What the? Plus it was the same shite, Beyonce and a.n.other controlled crap.”

Well, we all know it's the same people on the channels over and over.

That said, some new songs on First Play Friday on Chart Show tonight, but confirms your thoughts - how bad music has been this year.

Horrific new songs from Pink and Lilly Allen (really bad) Danny Saucedo, Cody Simpson (they are a bit obsessed with him) Alicia Keys (sounds like all of her others) and Rita Ora - oh and Pro Green feat Miles Kane too. Not a playlist I want repeating.
Itsallaboutyou
12-07-2013
Originally Posted by Sylvester2007:
“A better question would be - If what they say happened, happened, why has she taken him back?





Well, we all know it's the same people on the channels over and over.

That said, some new songs on First Play Friday on Chart Show tonight, but confirms your thoughts - how bad music has been this year.

Horrific new songs from Pink and Lilly Allen (really bad) Danny Saucedo, Cody Simpson (they are a bit obsessed with him) Alicia Keys (sounds like all of her others) and Rita Ora - oh and Pro Green feat Miles Kane too. Not a playlist I want repeating.”

I don't mind the Pink/Lilly Allen combo but it's weaker than her last singles. Danny Saucedo - he CAN NOT sing live. Nothing but a pretty boy....same with Cody Simpson - I thought he was a girl! Alicia is stuck on repeat, Rita Ora - I haven't heard but I can't stand her. Talentless nobody. Kane/Pro Green - eh...it's ok.

2013, well the whole of the 2010s has been terrible musically. I think about 1-3% of the songs that have been released since 2010 will be remembered in 2030. The creative edge has gone. It's all about the moolah.
Sylvester2007
12-07-2013
Originally Posted by Itsallaboutyou:
“I don't mind the Pink/Lilly Allen combo but it's weaker than her last singles. Danny Saucedo - he CAN NOT sing live. Nothing but a pretty boy....same with Cody Simpson - I thought he was a girl! Alicia is stuck on repeat, Rita Ora - I haven't heard but I can't stand her. Talentless nobody. Kane/Pro Green - eh...it's ok.

2013, well the whole of the 2010s has been terrible musically. I think about 1-3% of the songs that have been released since 2010 will be remembered in 2030. The creative edge has gone. It's all about the moolah.”

I'm not a Pink or Lilly Allen fan, but it is incredibly weak. We all know Pink is soft as poop under the image, but this takes the pee

I have no idea who Danny Saucedo is and Miles Kane? Who does he sing as part of?

Cody Simpson is a Chart Show fave - I think he's Aussie but he's weak.

They've also got Adelen on there as First Play Friday - about 3 months after their sister channel CSDance first played it

Music is pretty crap these days, which is why we need some more 'classic' channels.
kezo
12-07-2013
Originally Posted by Itsallaboutyou:
“Agreed. It seems these music channels are too obsessed with x is fit and Beiber/Will.i.am/Illumanti etc lol

I noticed that a lot of the channels are very similar. I saw the Union J takeover on TWO channels. The barber my brother goes to had it on VIVA and it was on an MTV Channel!! What the? Plus it was the same shite, Beyonce and a.n.other controlled crap.”

Yeah the only time the channels "reminisice" is to slag off the 90's or before!

You remember NSYNC/FIVE? (not at you lol) .... well we will slag them off yet we played them in the PAST - again why slag off people of the past - hell the music back then was at least FUN now its just dreary autoune upbeat dance crap :yawn: gimme aqua ANYDAY

Who are Union J - I am aware of them vaguely but I can guess X Factor who haven;t had much luck ... what does that say for music then nowadays ... yep sh..e!
kezo
12-07-2013
Originally Posted by Sylvester2007:
“A better question would be - If what they say happened, happened, why has she taken him back?





Well, we all know it's the same people on the channels over and over.

That said, some new songs on First Play Friday on Chart Show tonight, but confirms your thoughts - how bad music has been this year.

Horrific new songs from Pink and Lilly Allen (really bad) Danny Saucedo, Cody Simpson (they are a bit obsessed with him) Alicia Keys (sounds like all of her others) and Rita Ora - oh and Pro Green feat Miles Kane too. Not a playlist I want repeating.”


Oh the run of the mill - they are happy together - again its like its fantasy!

I admit the "first play fridays" I always tuned in when you had the "phone lines" now I barely watch it - but again playlists are just the same so you ain't missing anything - music of now is no longer an event you look forward to ie a new video from..... now they tell you (beats the point) but then again pity it wasn't around for my generation - was like you miss it tough and wait
kezo
12-07-2013
Originally Posted by Itsallaboutyou:
“I don't mind the Pink/Lilly Allen combo but it's weaker than her last singles. Danny Saucedo - he CAN NOT sing live. Nothing but a pretty boy....same with Cody Simpson - I thought he was a girl! Alicia is stuck on repeat, Rita Ora - I haven't heard but I can't stand her. Talentless nobody. Kane/Pro Green - eh...it's ok.

2013, well the whole of the 2010s has been terrible musically. I think about 1-3% of the songs that have been released since 2010 will be remembered in 2030. The creative edge has gone. It's all about the moolah.”

I think you missed a word in a sentence - "I think about ..... since 2010 will NOT be remembered in 2030! .... I doubt anyone remembers a song from last year or even 2010 as I don't and musically I have surprised myself - yet I was more into my music!
kezo
13-07-2013
It is called "club anthems" .... most of it was noise and to me I am adamant this is an "updated" version of his previous takeover .... as I remember it vaguely ie Rihanna - Only Girl In The World (prove me wrong anyone) but to me when I dived in and out looked more like a shuffle and possibly just using tracks from previous and aint much "new" .... if I want "club anthems" then have it being dance or if its hip hop and r&b keep it and not exactly playing "classics" either .... let me guess "playing safe" now i'll hazard a guess he has managed to even feature the Bieber somewhere since he SHOCKINGLY collabarated with that **** (and speaking as a fan of tinie - possibly no longer with that bieber collab why tinie why???) - oh well I have lost faith in music now and its finally confirmed
Itsallaboutyou
13-07-2013
Originally Posted by kezo:
“It is called "club anthems" .... most of it was noise and to me I am adamant this is an "updated" version of his previous takeover .... as I remember it vaguely ie Rihanna - Only Girl In The World (prove me wrong anyone) but to me when I dived in and out looked more like a shuffle and possibly just using tracks from previous and aint much "new" .... if I want "club anthems" then have it being dance or if its hip hop and r&b keep it and not exactly playing "classics" either .... let me guess "playing safe" now i'll hazard a guess he has managed to even feature the Bieber somewhere since he SHOCKINGLY collabarated with that **** (and speaking as a fan of tinie - possibly no longer with that bieber collab why tinie why???) - oh well I have lost faith in music now and its finally confirmed ”

It's all about the money Kezo. Such collabs were unheard of 20-30 years, and it seems now the mainstream music industry is so homogenous and conservative with the vast majority of artists doing the same music.

If you want something new to listen to, delve deep and look for a bunch of unknowns happy being small fry.
kezo
13-07-2013
Originally Posted by Itsallaboutyou:
“It's all about the money Kezo. Such collabs were unheard of 20-30 years, and it seems now the mainstream music industry is so homogenous and conservative with the vast majority of artists doing the same music.

If you want something new to listen to, delve deep and look for a bunch of unknowns happy being small fry.”

I would rather listen to classics now than what is now known as noise today, I do listen to some "unknown" stuff but its ashame of what we call music now .... seriously where did it go wrong??


Again do countdowns still have to feature the SAME ARTISTS??

here is a few - LMFAO/Ne-Yo and your special friend Will.i.am
Itsallaboutyou
13-07-2013
Originally Posted by kezo:
“I would rather listen to classics now than what is now known as noise today, I do listen to some "unknown" stuff but its ashame of what we call music now .... seriously where did it go wrong??


Again do countdowns still have to feature the SAME ARTISTS??

here is a few - LMFAO/Ne-Yo and your special friend Will.i.am ”

Nothing beats the classics from 50s, 60s, 70s, 80s and 90s. One of my most played songs the last few days is "The Power of Love" by Frankie Goes To Hollywood, mainly because of events in my life at the moment

I don't know who or what to blame....I think X-Factor and their ilk play a part with easy disposable music. I know SAW could be naff, but they produced some creidble artists and acts.

It's the labels, and a lot of stations prefer the big names. Will.i.am will be forgotten in 10 years time. People in 2043 will look at this and think what was this shit.
kezo
13-07-2013
Originally Posted by Itsallaboutyou:
“Nothing beats the classics from 50s, 60s, 70s, 80s and 90s. One of my most played songs the last few days is "The Power of Love" by Frankie Goes To Hollywood, mainly because of events in my life at the moment

I don't know who or what to blame....I think X-Factor and their ilk play a part with easy disposable music. I know SAW could be naff, but they produced some creidble artists and acts.

It's the labels, and a lot of stations prefer the big names. Will.i.am will be forgotten in 10 years time. People in 2043 will look at this and think what was this shit.”

Classics I listen to "decade" wise are from 70's-90's (00's is MORE of a hit and miss)

I partially blame that it was Pop Idol/Popstars/Pop Idol THEN X Factor - but all in a way to blame it was all about getting #1's at christmas (at first it was OK then it became annoying QUICK )

I will agree labels as well as stations also too but I guess they have to bow down to labels so they get more exposure (yeah more for wrong reasons)

I don't think artists of today have anything credible to stay around for years to come - look at the downfall of Chris Brown, Taio Cruz and even Flo-Rida (originally R&B now following a trend which is now killing off the "dance" scene for autouned crap)!
Sylvester2007
13-07-2013
Some channels can play new/lesser know artists.

As I stated yesterday, Chart Show had some new songs from lesser know artists and they generally give someone a go for a week or two - not long enough, but better than alot of other channels.

The Box New Top 10 occasionally has a lesser know artist or two - this week was Ed Drewett - dreadful song, but regardless he's not household. The only issue I had with their countdown yesterday, and I didn't see it all, was on their new video top 10 - number 8 - Icona Pop...already been UK Number 1.

4Music's usual Fresh Music Top 20 was cut down to Top 10 earlier - again I didn't watch it, but hopefully it's permanent.
kezo
13-07-2013
Originally Posted by Sylvester2007:
“Some channels can play new/lesser know artists.

As I stated yesterday, Chart Show had some new songs from lesser know artists and they generally give someone a go for a week or two - not long enough, but better than alot of other channels.

The Box New Top 10 occasionally has a lesser know artist or two - this week was Ed Drewett - dreadful song, but regardless he's not household. The only issue I had with their countdown yesterday, and I didn't see it all, was on their new video top 10 - number 8 - Icona Pop...already been UK Number 1.

4Music's usual Fresh Music Top 20 was cut down to Top 10 earlier - again I didn't watch it, but hopefully it's permanent.”

Regarding fresh music surely then get rid of already charted songs why keep them in? They are no longer fresh and song you mentioned why is it still there and even at #8? should be well out that chart now!

I still think its there responsibility in removing charted songs out than keep them in! - Would these "charts" operate any different if we the viewer was in control?? (I would hope) but I don't have the channels with "requests" and I can't say but there needs to be a major overhaul on these channels
Itsallaboutyou
13-07-2013
Originally Posted by Sylvester2007:
“Some channels can play new/lesser know artists.

As I stated yesterday, Chart Show had some new songs from lesser know artists and they generally give someone a go for a week or two - not long enough, but better than alot of other channels.

The Box New Top 10 occasionally has a lesser know artist or two - this week was Ed Drewett - dreadful song, but regardless he's not household. The only issue I had with their countdown yesterday, and I didn't see it all, was on their new video top 10 - number 8 - Icona Pop...already been UK Number 1.

4Music's usual Fresh Music Top 20 was cut down to Top 10 earlier - again I didn't watch it, but hopefully it's permanent.”

At least unknown acts can get exposure on these channels. Guess being limited to Freeview for so long has got to me.

Ed Drewett....he has wrote songs for The Wanted but not popular. Looks a lot like Joe Hart imo.

Fresh Music STILL has Blurred Lines in their top 10. Six weeks at nr1...it stale now.
Sylvester2007
13-07-2013
Originally Posted by kezo:
“I don't think artists of today have anything credible to stay around for years to come - look at the downfall of Chris Brown, Taio Cruz and even Flo-Rida (originally R&B now following a trend which is now killing off the "dance" scene for autouned crap)!”

I'd agree with that.

I'm not sure what this Iggy Azalea is about either - She's like the female Professor Green

The problem is that most artists and songwriters these days are lyrically challenged and instead of writing a proper song, chuck in some sex, swearing, bad behaviour to sell their records. Their biggest demographic are people who are at the age of "It's cool". My opinion on artists singing sexual songs to their 12 year old fans would only end in a rant, so I shall keep shtum.

Mainstream music uses non musical means to sell the 'music'. It's always happened but it's now worse than ever. We have always had bad music, it's just more commonplace now.

Dare I say it too, that, certainly in my case, I am getting older. The youngsters of today will likely feel the same way in a few years.

As my kids say, for my age () I am quite cool, but they warn me to not try and be too young, as that would not be cool and their's nothing less cool like a grown up trying to be hip with today's music and trends.

They have nothing to worry about, they can keep their shit music and trends
Sylvester2007
13-07-2013
Originally Posted by kezo:
“Regarding fresh music surely then get rid of already charted songs why keep them in? They are no longer fresh and song you mentioned why is it still there and even at #8? should be well out that chart now!

I still think its there responsibility in removing charted songs out than keep them in! - Would these "charts" operate any different if we the viewer was in control?? (I would hope) but I don't have the channels with "requests" and I can't say but there needs to be a major overhaul on these channels”

It is all a bit bizarre. I'm guessing outside influences have dictated. It's from a phone ad isn't it? Icona Pop I mean.

We've seen from Buz, Starz and Clubland that 'smaller' acts get a bigger look in. Starz are still playing the Eurovision winner regularly. MTV and Bauer couldn't be bothered to get the video when it was in the chart.

Originally Posted by Itsallaboutyou:
“At least unknown acts can get exposure on these channels. Guess being limited to Freeview for so long has got to me.

Ed Drewett....he has wrote songs for The Wanted but not popular. Looks a lot like Joe Hart imo.

Fresh Music STILL has Blurred Lines in their top 10. Six weeks at nr1...it stale now.”

Sky channels have more choice, naturally. Being on freeview with 4Music and Viva I feel for you.

Didn't Ed Drewett team up with someone a few years back? Pro Green rings a bell?

Blurred Lines still in Fresh Music? Deary me.
Itsallaboutyou
13-07-2013
Originally Posted by Sylvester2007:
“It is all a bit bizarre. I'm guessing outside influences have dictated. It's from a phone ad isn't it? Icona Pop I mean.

We've seen from Buz, Starz and Clubland that 'smaller' acts get a bigger look in. Starz are still playing the Eurovision winner regularly. MTV and Bauer couldn't be bothered to get the video when it was in the chart.



Sky channels have more choice, naturally. Being on freeview with 4Music and Viva I feel for you.

Didn't Ed Drewett team up with someone a few years back? Pro Green rings a bell?

Blurred Lines still in Fresh Music? Deary me.”

Icona Pop was used on the S4 ad...I have an S3 and cant stand the damn song lol.

I think a lot of labels pay the channels to plug their acts and get cash off the revenue. This is why we get Rihanna and Will.I.Am nonstop

Ed Drewett did indeed team up with Pro Green with a dodgy cover of "I Need You Tonight".

I saw that Jessie J amboination on there and the Saturdays latest flop.

I wish Freeview would get new channels instead of it being Manchester only. The South West is a huge region Ffs. I heard something that when Bristol gets their own TV frequency for channels, we in Weston and Taunton will not get to see them
Sylvester2007
13-07-2013
Originally Posted by Itsallaboutyou:
“Icona Pop was used on the S4 ad...I have an S3 and cant stand the damn song lol.

I think a lot of labels pay the channels to plug their acts and get cash off the revenue. This is why we get Rihanna and Will.I.Am nonstop

Ed Drewett did indeed team up with Pro Green with a dodgy cover of "I Need You Tonight".

I saw that Jessie J amboination on there and the Saturdays latest flop.

I wish Freeview would get new channels instead of it being Manchester only. The South West is a huge region Ffs. I heard something that when Bristol gets their own TV frequency for channels, we in Weston and Taunton will not get to see them ”

I recall it was going nowhere until that ad. The power of advertising.

I remember Ed/Pro Green now. Was thinking Lilly Allen, but that was another awful cover (of a classic song!)

Jessie J - Still trying to work that one out - The Saturdays will never flop - What about us was doing nothing until they came out with their usual mid-song rapper and some serious serious promotion. They've gone horribly American and are trying to rap

Really? Wow, I thought freeview was national? I have Sky, so I am lucky. The thought of Freeview scares me. I only watch music, sport and the odd documentary, but the thought of less choice....
kezo
13-07-2013
Originally Posted by Sylvester2007:
“I'd agree with that.

I'm not sure what this Iggy Azalea is about either - She's like the female Professor Green

The problem is that most artists and songwriters these days are lyrically challenged and instead of writing a proper song, chuck in some sex, swearing, bad behaviour to sell their records. Their biggest demographic are people who are at the age of "It's cool". My opinion on artists singing sexual songs to their 12 year old fans would only end in a rant, so I shall keep shtum.

Mainstream music uses non musical means to sell the 'music'. It's always happened but it's now worse than ever. We have always had bad music, it's just more commonplace now.

Dare I say it too, that, certainly in my case, I am getting older. The youngsters of today will likely feel the same way in a few years.

As my kids say, for my age () I am quite cool, but they warn me to not try and be too young, as that would not be cool and their's nothing less cool like a grown up trying to be hip with today's music and trends.

They have nothing to worry about, they can keep their shit music and trends ”

I admit we did in the 90's kinda had songs that had "sex" in it but I guess in a way it wasn't as bad as well Rihanna S & M I wonder if salt n pepa Giddy Up or Lets talk about sex be played or is that "dangerous" to play (if it is the channels are hypocrites themselves!)

Don't get me wrong I don't mind some songs of today but its overall crap to the worst degree and as for a "trend" its tired now time to move on, if your gonna keep doing it then - music has eventually died and that is OFFICIAL but sorry it ain't charted yet its needs rectified first

You mentioned professor green - yeah he covered INX's I need you tonight, I kinda liked the remix of "read all about it" with emeli sande but his music overall is terrible!

Freeview overall where I live is crap - got viva and 4Music how interesting, when you try and avoid the crap they advertise on the sister stations its available on freeview too
unknown17
13-07-2013
Originally Posted by Sylvester2007:
“I'd agree with that.

I'm not sure what this Iggy Azalea is about either - She's like the female Professor Green

The problem is that most artists and songwriters these days are lyrically challenged and instead of writing a proper song, chuck in some sex, swearing, bad behaviour to sell their records. Their biggest demographic are people who are at the age of "It's cool". My opinion on artists singing sexual songs to their 12 year old fans would only end in a rant, so I shall keep shtum.

Mainstream music uses non musical means to sell the 'music'. It's always happened but it's now worse than ever. We have always had bad music, it's just more commonplace now.

Dare I say it too, that, certainly in my case, I am getting older. The youngsters of today will likely feel the same way in a few years.

As my kids say, for my age () I am quite cool, but they warn me to not try and be too young, as that would not be cool and their's nothing less cool like a grown up trying to be hip with today's music and trends.

They have nothing to worry about, they can keep their shit music and trends ”

Iggy Azalea is actually quite good! But she's obviously had change her music style with the awful "Bounce" to suit the British public which is a shame. Work was a very good song which is a shame as she had so much potential

Basshunter and Cascada did the same. They were once good dance acts who released some fantastic tunes like Boten Anna and Miracle but then the David Guetta generation came along and they became more uptempo R&B releasing songs like Saturday, Evacuate The Dancefloor and San Francisco

Jessie J is a talentless moron

So are The Saturdays who should just give up as they are just failures.

Haven't watched the music channels much today but had Clubland on before and there were a few videos I'd never seen before. The Vault also played Voodoo Child by Rogue Traders yesterday, a video which I haven't seen since around 2006. I used to love that song back in the day,
unknown17
13-07-2013
Originally Posted by kezo:
“I admit we did in the 90's kinda had songs that had "sex" in it but I guess in a way it wasn't as bad as well Rihanna S & M I wonder if salt n pepa Giddy Up or Lets talk about sex be played or is that "dangerous" to play (if it is the channels are hypocrites themselves!)

Don't get me wrong I don't mind some songs of today but its overall crap to the worst degree and as for a "trend" its tired now time to move on, if your gonna keep doing it then - music has eventually died and that is OFFICIAL but sorry it ain't charted yet its needs rectified first

You mentioned professor green - yeah he covered INX's I need you tonight, I kinda liked the remix of "read all about it" with emeli sande but his music overall is terrible!”

I'm not a fan of chavs like Professor Green but his new song is quite good. I'm not sure who Miles Kane is though.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=byPRmtaEwxk
kezo
13-07-2013
Originally Posted by unknown17:
“I'm not a fan of chavs like Professor Green but his new song is quite good. I'm not sure who Miles Kane is though.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=byPRmtaEwxk”

I heard that song .... its absolute sh.t sorry unknown here!

I am not being funny but that song sounds like PRODIGY "breathe" listen to the bass or whatever you call it ... it sounds similar!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rmHDhAohJlQ

I actually can't believe it but that is .... either at a slower pace to original but I reckon that is Prodigy, I was starting to sing the lyrics to breathe (even though not much to it! lol)
my78
14-07-2013
i think its useless to talk about uk music channels. they are all addicted to the top 40 stuff only. 5 times a day guetta, drunkhanna, casting crap and awful us rnb/hip hop. the german IM1 plays better music and has more variety than every uk channel these days. when it comes to electronic music on uk channels it gets darker than the night. MTV Dance can be merged with MTV Hits/Music. MTV has lost its courage to play lesser known and curious music.

would anyone expect these tunes on MTV Dance these days?:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZM80F_J-QHE
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GL81m3DGxEg

back in the 90s this would have been played on MTV Europe, if these tracks werent from 2012.

the only respectable MTV channel these days is MTV Adria. there are lots of clips from MTV Adria's "Chill Out Zone" on youtube. stuff you would never see on any UK channel.
Sylvester2007
14-07-2013
Originally Posted by kezo:
“I admit we did in the 90's kinda had songs that had "sex" in it but I guess in a way it wasn't as bad as well Rihanna S & M I wonder if salt n pepa Giddy Up or Lets talk about sex be played or is that "dangerous" to play (if it is the channels are hypocrites themselves!)

Don't get me wrong I don't mind some songs of today but its overall crap to the worst degree and as for a "trend" its tired now time to move on, if your gonna keep doing it then - music has eventually died and that is OFFICIAL but sorry it ain't charted yet its needs rectified first

You mentioned professor green - yeah he covered INX's I need you tonight, I kinda liked the remix of "read all about it" with emeli sande but his music overall is terrible!

Freeview overall where I live is crap - got viva and 4Music how interesting, when you try and avoid the crap they advertise on the sister stations its available on freeview too”

The sex thing in the 90's was much more drummed down and again was by artists trying to create an image. Look at Madonna, in reality she's piss weak, but back in her day, she was shocking

Originally Posted by unknown17:
“Iggy Azalea is actually quite good! But she's obviously had change her music style with the awful "Bounce" to suit the British public which is a shame. Work was a very good song which is a shame as she had so much potential

Basshunter and Cascada did the same. They were once good dance acts who released some fantastic tunes like Boten Anna and Miracle but then the David Guetta generation came along and they became more uptempo R&B releasing songs like Saturday, Evacuate The Dancefloor and San Francisco

Jessie J is a talentless moron

So are The Saturdays who should just give up as they are just failures.

Haven't watched the music channels much today but had Clubland on before and there were a few videos I'd never seen before. The Vault also played Voodoo Child by Rogue Traders yesterday, a video which I haven't seen since around 2006. I used to love that song back in the day,”

Work and Bounce are awful songs to me, especially Bounce. Her problem seems to be she can't decide if she should go with an Aussie accent or an American one and her tone of voice is that of a nervous 8 year old child. I am aware of her more risque music too, although I find it kind of embarrassing. It just all appears fake.

Never liked Basshunter. Cascada - I agree that the later music was different to the older. The Evacuate/San Francisco album was much more RnB and is by far the worst album they ever did, despite having 'Dangerous' on it, which is classic Cascada dance, going back to Miracle/Everytime We Touch etc era. Although I like Evacuate/San Francisco, it's nowhere near the classic era.

It's a bit harsh on Jessie. I wouldn't say she was talentless, just not as talented as she's made out to be. Her screeching gets on my nerves and she only originally made it as she was given a Brit helping her single that barely hit the top 20, go to number 2.

Unfortunately The Saturdays are very popular with young girls. Again, they went from cheesy pop to being totally Americanised. When I was flicking channels the other day, they were on Chart Show and the question was "Have you ever used the term, do you know who I am?" 4 of them said "No, how embarrassing" etc. Una, the Irish one, just looked awkward and said nothing.....you can tell she probably has.

Rogue Traders occasionally gets played, but not very often Sometimes Heat have it if they have a dance chart on. Sadly, it's who sang it, or rather, who didn't. Had it been Rihanna, Beyonce etc etc, you'd find the music channels and general public describing it as one of the greatest songs ever.

Originally Posted by my78:
“i think its useless to talk about uk music channels. they are all addicted to the top 40 stuff only. 5 times a day guetta, drunkhanna, casting crap and awful us rnb/hip hop. the german IM1 plays better music and has more variety than every uk channel these days. when it comes to electronic music on uk channels it gets darker than the night. MTV Dance can be merged with MTV Hits/Music. MTV has lost its courage to play lesser known and curious music.

would anyone expect these tunes on MTV Dance these days?:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZM80F_J-QHE
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GL81m3DGxEg

back in the 90s this would have been played on MTV Europe, if these tracks werent from 2012.

the only respectable MTV channel these days is MTV Adria. there are lots of clips from MTV Adria's "Chill Out Zone" on youtube. stuff you would never see on any UK channel.”

If they were ever to be played, i'd imagine Clubland would on their chillout zone. Mtv Dance are more interested in Guetta, The Saturdays and Rihanna.
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