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Old 13-09-2013, 20:49
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It's not that they've ditched classic rock and britpop, but at certain times MTV Classic used to play it to the exclusion of other genres of music; especially during the "Kller Anthems" slot. Now there seems to be a better variety of tracks from all genres, which still includes some classic rock/britpop.
I guess Classic used to play more rock/britpop because it was scheduled by the same guy who used to be in charge of MTV Rocks prior to the recent changes, so I believe that was his idea of "classic".
Maybe it's just me, but I've only noticed an increase in mainstream pop so far, I don't see that much variety, just fewer britpop videos in favor of the usual overrated/overplayed US pop hits from back in the day. And whenever they play something slightly more dance-oriented, that's usually Olive's "You're Not Alone" - not a day goes by without it being played a few times on Classic.

Anyway, maybe I just picked the wrong times to watch the channel. Or I just don't have enough patience anymore!

I agree about Mariah, I'm not a fan of her high pitched screeching!
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Old 13-09-2013, 20:52
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Which independent music channel will MTV buy and ruin next? That vintage TV will be next on the buy list and the vault. Then you can tell when they do take over by the change of music to rubbish.
God keep Vintage TV the way it is .... MTV can take a hike on that .... that is my NEW VH1 channel away from some of this crap of today ... glad its available at least. I am just more shocked at how bad MTVNHD (MTV LIVE HD) has now become ... I honestly thought that was one station completely different from the MTV family (Ok it was broadcasting originally from Poland?) but since UK control it has just turned into the same drivel channel that has the same stuff on that they show on their other channels .... where exactly is variety MTV?? I see no variety on their channels but if your older than 25+ your thrown to the side and all things are catered for the "young" generation ... yes I wonder how long it is lasting??
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Old 13-09-2013, 22:25
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Is there a proper rock channel on Sky?
MTV Rocks, Scuzz and Kerrang are meant to be....

I think MTV Classic has possibly become even worse since the programmers swapped. As posted by Sylvester2007, it's quite shocking to see One Direction, Nicki Minaj and Thicke on a supposedly 'classic' channel. And I'm afraid those videos were scheduled intentionally.

Besides, I really don't see it as a good move to ditch classic britpop videos in favor of more Lionel Richie and other cheese, although this is obviously a matter of personal taste.
Not to mention that seeing Mariah Carey videos approximately every 45 minutes is pure torture.
I've no doubt they were scheduled intentionally. It's just head shaking to see them on MTV Classic - even Vault show current/very recent 'tunes' these days.

It's not that they've ditched classic rock and britpop, but at certain times MTV Classic used to play it to the exclusion of other genres of music; especially during the "Kller Anthems" slot. Now there seems to be a better variety of tracks from all genres, which still includes some classic rock/britpop.

I agree about Mariah, I'm not a fan of her high pitched screeching!
How about a bit of Mariah with Westlife?

It was not the borrowed countdown from VH1 I wonder?? As during those "decades" they featured Olly Murs and Emeli Sande .... comes more across this MTV lot have no clue about the "decades" as once were WTF?

Warsaw Shore - coming soon to MTV UK (straight after the Geordies are finished )
It could be, but your post made me think - if VH1 and MTV Classic have swapped programmers, then MTV Classic now have a programmer that doesn't know the difference between 00's and 10's and maybe now VH1 can make a comeback to the good old days.....
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Old 13-09-2013, 22:29
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Or I just don't have enough patience anymore!
Make that two of us (or more than that judging by the viewing figures)



I see no variety on their channels but if your older than 25+ your thrown to the side and all things are catered for the "young" generation ... yes I wonder how long it is lasting??
I can understand the young generation. The youngsters I work with - it's natural for them to like current music - however I work alongside people 25-30 and they love Tinie Tempah and 2 Chainz and they always talk about it
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Old 13-09-2013, 22:30
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MTV Rocks, Scuzz and Kerrang are meant to be....



I've no doubt they were scheduled intentionally. It's just head shaking to see them on MTV Classic - even Vault show current/very recent 'tunes' these days.



How about a bit of Mariah with Westlife?



It could be, but your post made me think - if VH1 and MTV Classic have swapped programmers, then MTV Classic now have a programmer that doesn't know the difference between 00's and 10's and maybe now VH1 can make a comeback to the good old days.....
I'll reserve my judgement on VH1 til I see it .... if anything for starters ... they could SCRAP the bombardment of the MTV sh.t of the Geordies for a start THEN i'll tune in!
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Old 13-09-2013, 23:49
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Flicking across the music channels now its the same old shit they've been playing for months and months now some even 12 months old or longer even The Box plays some stale music too and they have some shows with the word 'Fresh' and most of them are like 3 months old lol
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Old 14-09-2013, 13:24
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VH1 should just look at Vintage TV and copy the lineup on that channel
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Old 14-09-2013, 13:34
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I love Vintage TV, I'm still stuck there my play list is all 80s and 90s proper musicians, I don't bother with today's rubbish
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Old 14-09-2013, 14:02
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I think if you look at the mainstream media outlets (beside Vintage TV and the rock channels and stations), we're seeing a VERY limited scope on music and even artists.

Some artists e.g Rihanna, Gaga, Beyonce, Katy Perry are automatically guaranteed hits and attention regardless. The styles of music are pretty much the same and very generic. Songs played are limited. Nothing new or adventorous, just VERY samey. What is so appealing about Ms Perry's new single? Heard it before and nothing new. Will be forgotten about 10 years from now.

As mentioned there is a lot of songs from late last year/early this year being hammered to death even now.

Are we in a new age of control? Only "ALLOWED" songs and artists can be played?
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Old 14-09-2013, 17:05
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Not really, People get there music from the internet these days.
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Old 14-09-2013, 19:05
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Its weird in a sense you could possibly go into a shopping centre and they play a mix of songs be from today to the past (Ok it aint a music channel) but at least they seem to make more of an effort at times than stick to the same crap day in day out!
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Old 14-09-2013, 19:09
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VH1 should just look at Vintage TV and copy the lineup on that channel
Kinda ironic really .... VH1 was more of a "vintage" station and should bloomin well know that ... it shouldn't be looking towards "vintage tv" for inspiration! .... that is the PROBLEM its like they have to stick to the same old songs played to death and can't venture into "unknowns" or be if that slag them off in having a crap song or it being classed as something like "worst song ever" ..... yeah right and back then YOU LOT played them .... basically the networks are being hypocrites!

and as for Vintage TV could not agree more .... I tune into that more if I am watching a programme in between ads than the MTV/Bauer lot!
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Old 18-09-2013, 20:16
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This German dance music programme on Clubland....it's a mixture of artists....Basshunter is from Sweden, Skyla is from Yorkshire and Kelly Llorenna is from Manchester!

And now, those crazy Germans of.....Ultrabeat!
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Old 18-09-2013, 20:22
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What are the top 32 most watched music tv channels in the uk in order for example like the top 40 singles chart
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Old 18-09-2013, 21:10
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What are the top 32 most watched music tv channels in the uk in order for example like the top 40 singles chart
Latest BARB figures (2nd-8th September)

Sorted by Weekly Reach ('000s)
eg. 4,040,000 watched 4Music that week.

Code:
1. 4Music	4040
2. Viva		3381
3. MTV		2258
4. MTV Shows	1090
5. Magic TV	951
6. The Box	948
7. Kiss TV	862
8. Smash Hits	823
9. MTV Hits	796
10. MTV Live	732
11. Chart Show  731
12. heat	719
13. Vintage TV	709
14. Kerrang!	703
15. MTV Dance	688
16. MTV Base	653
17. VH-1	647
18. Planet Pop	565
19. Starz  	550
20. MTV Rocks	491
21. The Vault	461
22. MTV +1	457
23. MTV Classic	439
24. Bliss	429
25. Scuzz	423
26. BuzMuzik	384
27. Capital TV	371
28. Clubland TV	356
29. Flava	327
30. GreatestHits306
31. Heart TV	293
32. Channel AKA	270
33. DanceNation 255
MTV Music is still listed as MTV Shows.
Chart Show Dance is still listed as Dance Nation.

New on VIVA in October: Scrubs and Two Pints of Lager and a Packet of Crisps. Music will end an hour earlier at 15:00 from 7th October.
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Old 18-09-2013, 21:21
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Latest BARB figures (2nd-8th September)

Sorted by Weekly Reach ('000s)
eg. 4,040,000 watched 4Music that week.

Code:
1. 4Music	4040
2. Viva		3381
3. MTV		2258
4. MTV Shows	1090
5. Magic TV	951
6. The Box	948
7. Kiss TV	862
8. Smash Hits	823
9. MTV Hits	796
10. MTV Live	732
11. Chart Show  731
12. heat	719
13. Vintage TV	709
14. Kerrang!	703
15. MTV Dance	688
16. MTV Base	653
17. VH-1	647
18. Planet Pop	565
19. Starz  	550
20. MTV Rocks	491
21. The Vault	461
22. MTV +1	457
23. MTV Classic	439
24. Bliss	429
25. Scuzz	423
26. BuzMuzik	384
27. Capital TV	371
28. Clubland TV	356
29. Flava	327
30. GreatestHits306
31. Heart TV	293
32. Channel AKA	270
33. DanceNation 255
MTV Music is still listed as MTV Shows.
Chart Show Dance is still listed as Dance Nation.

New on VIVA in October: Scrubs and Two Pints of Lager and a Packet of Crisps. Music will end an hour earlier at 15:00 from 7th October.
Why doesn't VIVA just become an entertainment channel or better disband? Stupid. Glad I deleted the channels. Might ask if I can get Freesat installed when I get the tenancy renewed next month, am I missing much bar Vintage and Heart TV?

As for Clubland with the German Dance list - LOL!!! I know We're all EU nationals and Germany invaded us in WW2 and lost but they're NOT German!! Like saying Paellea is a dish from Northern Ireland!
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Old 18-09-2013, 21:31
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Why doesn't VIVA just become an entertainment channel or better disband? Stupid. Glad I deleted the channels. Might ask if I can get Freesat installed when I get the tenancy renewed next month, am I missing much bar Vintage and Heart TV?
Get a multi-sat dish - Deluxe Music at 19.2'E makes even Vintage TV look a bit narrow (you can watch online at http://deluxemusic.tv/en/ ) and gotv has decent programmes too (Hosted by... can be interesting if you like the artists).

If your into you cheesy 90s and early 00s pop then The Vault can bring back a few songs you've not heard in years
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Old 18-09-2013, 22:14
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Latest BARB figures (2nd-8th September)

Sorted by Weekly Reach ('000s)
eg. 4,040,000 watched 4Music that week.

Code:
1. 4Music	4040
2. Viva		3381
3. MTV		2258
4. MTV Shows	1090
5. Magic TV	951
6. The Box	948
7. Kiss TV	862
8. Smash Hits	823
9. MTV Hits	796
10. MTV Live	732
11. Chart Show  731
12. heat	719
13. Vintage TV	709
14. Kerrang!	703
15. MTV Dance	688
16. MTV Base	653
17. VH-1	647
18. Planet Pop	565
19. Starz  	550
20. MTV Rocks	491
21. The Vault	461
22. MTV +1	457
23. MTV Classic	439
24. Bliss	429
25. Scuzz	423
26. BuzMuzik	384
27. Capital TV	371
28. Clubland TV	356
29. Flava	327
30. GreatestHits306
31. Heart TV	293
32. Channel AKA	270
33. DanceNation 255
MTV Music is still listed as MTV Shows.
Chart Show Dance is still listed as Dance Nation.

New on VIVA in October: Scrubs and Two Pints of Lager and a Packet of Crisps. Music will end an hour earlier at 15:00 from 7th October.
I guess Scrubs must be ending on E4 (its on Comedy Central Extra last time I looked) and an old BBC show (well BBC 3 show) .... VIVA is definately going down in my estimations .... Brickleberry/Crash Canyon is the only 2 shows i'll give them credit for but what a crap channel it has become as mentioned why not just make it an MTV2 channel? Another channel for MTV crap or better yet rename VIVA "MTV Shows"

"music will end an hour earlier" - what music is that top 40 or the same old countdowns? - this station plays music from 9am! so its now a 9am-3pm "music" station - may as well scrub the music and just put on "shows"

This an MTV channel that has TELESHOPPING on supposedly from 3am-9am why not just run teleshopping til 3pm and then run "entertainment" such a shame
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Old 20-09-2013, 13:35
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From next Sunday VH1 are broadcast the Official Chart Update each Sunday at 9pm. Perhaps the scheduler doesn't know that the new chart is revealed at 7pm on Sundays, meaning a repeat of the mid week chart 2 hours later is pointless. 9am might have been better..
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Old 20-09-2013, 14:39
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everything MTV does nowadays is pointless.
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Old 20-09-2013, 19:19
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everything MTV does nowadays is pointless.
everything MTV does is beyond pointless ..... its senile!
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Old 21-09-2013, 11:01
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This morning on VH1, Biggest Selling Singles of the 90s:

Snow Patrol - Chasing Cars (2006)
Beyonce - If I Were A Boy (2008)
Natasha Bedingfield - These Words (2004)
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Old 21-09-2013, 13:14
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This morning on VH1, Biggest Selling Singles of the 90s:

Snow Patrol - Chasing Cars (2006)
Beyonce - If I Were A Boy (2008)
Natasha Bedingfield - These Words (2004)
Investigation needed.
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Old 21-09-2013, 13:21
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This morning on VH1, Biggest Selling Singles of the 90s:

Snow Patrol - Chasing Cars (2006)
Beyonce - If I Were A Boy (2008)
Natasha Bedingfield - These Words (2004)
Eh? come on now VH1 your doing a countdown BASED on the 90's and not the 00's

guess VH1 took the effort for "missing" songs and stuck in fillers of the 00's ..... who is MTV/VH1 employing here .... again no research has been done kinda reminds me of the 90's vs 00's and they ended up at one point having a song from Olly Murs (feat Flo-rida) playing .... maybe they should have played a Flo-rida song instead of Olly Murs don't you think? (not at you omnidirectional)
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Old 21-09-2013, 13:23
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Investigation needed.
Forget the investigation - someone needs the sack and this has happened more than on one occasion .... hire people who have a CLUE about music (not just sticking to the tired fad of X Factor acts etc) and know their research!
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