The Vault used to be a great channel - we're talking like five years ago.
Music channels
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Originally Posted by kezo:
“At least from what you see The Vault and Chart Show make an effort in dropping ads for a limited time
I agree with you on the Teleshopping part - how can they get away with it? Thats why I will give Bauer a bit of credit if they are running without it -MTV says it all .... it needs it on all channels including its "entertainment" channel, Bauer only has it on 4Music MTV its on ALL (how surprising) yet this is meant to be the "one in the know" of all things (standards have well and truly slipped)
Clubland plays 2 of his other songs?? Again its another network that knows MORE of an artist than MTV cares to delve into!
What songs do they play of Will Smith out of curiousity?? Will Smith was a random artist being honest but still surprises me yet I hardly see him on or if he is on its Summertime/Boom Shake the Room OR Men In Black ... thats it
Odd Vault hitting overload on Ant and Dec! lol”
“At least from what you see The Vault and Chart Show make an effort in dropping ads for a limited time
I agree with you on the Teleshopping part - how can they get away with it? Thats why I will give Bauer a bit of credit if they are running without it -MTV says it all .... it needs it on all channels including its "entertainment" channel, Bauer only has it on 4Music MTV its on ALL (how surprising) yet this is meant to be the "one in the know" of all things (standards have well and truly slipped)
Clubland plays 2 of his other songs?? Again its another network that knows MORE of an artist than MTV cares to delve into!
What songs do they play of Will Smith out of curiousity?? Will Smith was a random artist being honest but still surprises me yet I hardly see him on or if he is on its Summertime/Boom Shake the Room OR Men In Black ... thats it
Odd Vault hitting overload on Ant and Dec! lol”
Bauer are now free on satellite and have been since about March/April 2013. 4Music is on Freeview and probably think it makes them more on Freeview as it's still a pay channel on Sky.
From Haddaway, Clubland plays Rock My Heart and Life.
From Will Smith, The Vault, Flava, Heart and sometimes Heat play Gettin' Jiggy Wit It, Boom! Shake The Room, Miami and Summertime
Originally Posted by hmeister:
“Heat broadcasts 24 hours now, all the Baeur, CSC and AATW got rid of Teleshopping ages ago. It's only MTV now which is silly as they're pay channels.
Whenever I put Heat on they've got noughties music on and the occasional new videos as it seems like they are trying to be like The Vault.”
“Heat broadcasts 24 hours now, all the Baeur, CSC and AATW got rid of Teleshopping ages ago. It's only MTV now which is silly as they're pay channels.
Whenever I put Heat on they've got noughties music on and the occasional new videos as it seems like they are trying to be like The Vault.”
Clubland have 1 hour of teleshopping from 8am to 9am. They are meant to be ad free music now, 6am to 8am but it's Insanity instead!
Originally Posted by kezo:
“What songs do they play of Will Smith out of curiousity?? Will Smith was a random artist being honest but still surprises me yet I hardly see him on or if he is on its Summertime/Boom Shake the Room OR Men In Black ... thats it
Odd Vault hitting overload on Ant and Dec! lol”
“What songs do they play of Will Smith out of curiousity?? Will Smith was a random artist being honest but still surprises me yet I hardly see him on or if he is on its Summertime/Boom Shake the Room OR Men In Black ... thats it
Odd Vault hitting overload on Ant and Dec! lol”
Clubland don't play Will Smith if that's what you mean?
Originally Posted by Black Box:
“The Vault used to be a great channel - we're talking like five years ago.”
“The Vault used to be a great channel - we're talking like five years ago.”
Apparently, Sabrina The Teenage Witch is their most viewed programme now, filling 8 of their top 10 viewing figures.
Originally Posted by Sylvester2007:
“In fact, looking at it - All AATW channels are Teleshopping 6am-8am”
“In fact, looking at it - All AATW channels are Teleshopping 6am-8am”
Is it the recession leading to all channels having Teleshopping? Its a bummer when you get up early for work and all it is news, teleshopping and kids programmes.
I quite like Heat at the moment, good to see a channel playing a great mix of pop music.
The Box, Smash Hits and Kiss could all be merged into 1 channel, they are all playing the same songs and of course the UKHot40 20 times a day. I used to love The Box, it was the best music channel 10+ years ago
The Box, Smash Hits and Kiss could all be merged into 1 channel, they are all playing the same songs and of course the UKHot40 20 times a day. I used to love The Box, it was the best music channel 10+ years ago
Originally Posted by hmeister:
“Bauer are now free on satellite and have been since about March/April 2013. 4Music is on Freeview and probably think it makes them more on Freeview as it's still a pay channel on Sky.
From Haddaway, Clubland plays Rock My Heart and Life.
From Will Smith, The Vault, Flava, Heart and sometimes Heat play Gettin' Jiggy Wit It, Boom! Shake The Room, Miami and Summertime”
“Bauer are now free on satellite and have been since about March/April 2013. 4Music is on Freeview and probably think it makes them more on Freeview as it's still a pay channel on Sky.
From Haddaway, Clubland plays Rock My Heart and Life.
From Will Smith, The Vault, Flava, Heart and sometimes Heat play Gettin' Jiggy Wit It, Boom! Shake The Room, Miami and Summertime”
They do realise he had MORE hits than whats on rotation?? - again LIMITATIONS are at play here!
Haddaway - ain't seen those 2 vids in ages! (looks at MTV Dance)
All these channels should be FTA in my books but the quality is debatable and would I really want them?
Originally Posted by Sylvester2007:
“Clubland don't play Will Smith if that's what you mean?”
“Clubland don't play Will Smith if that's what you mean?”
They might as well put him on there - since some channels are good at throwing artists on every channel!
Originally Posted by Rush:
“I quite like Heat at the moment, good to see a channel playing a great mix of pop music.
The Box, Smash Hits and Kiss could all be merged into 1 channel, they are all playing the same songs and of course the UKHot40 20 times a day. I used to love The Box, it was the best music channel 10+ years ago”
“I quite like Heat at the moment, good to see a channel playing a great mix of pop music.
The Box, Smash Hits and Kiss could all be merged into 1 channel, they are all playing the same songs and of course the UKHot40 20 times a day. I used to love The Box, it was the best music channel 10+ years ago”
I think Heat can be improved if they dropped a few things and dropped the whole TOWIE/reality bandwagon I can watch it but with the likes of Mark Wright presenting countdowns is enough to put me off it (since when did this lot actually know about MUSIC?? bad enough the likes of ITV/Channel 4/MTV flaunting their own "reality" stars ... get a grip! (not you personally lol))
I agree regarding The Box and same I enjoyed it 10+ years ago too - something about requesting songs to me was a bit of fun and waiting now its just same songs on rota - once Top 40 is done its back on say Airplay Chart .... really?? We didn't have that many charts back in the day so why now?? There is no need for it but at same time its like some are aiming to alienate their older audiences
I do have to say, I do fairly like the current direction that Bliss is taking - the 'pop and indie' format which, when I happened to be tuned in the other night, stretched from Shakira to Bombay Bicycle Club - is something which is not only in tune to a degree with my personal tastes (given I listen to a fairly wide range of music and only Vintage has really had the breadth I crave up to now) and, because it suggests that the plan is to run Bliss as the 'grown-up' channel, with less of the drongo RnB that tends to populate CSC's channels, and a focus more on adult pop and soft rock, filling the gap between the mainstream hit stations and the harder rock of Scuzz. If we can't have a proper indie/alternative channel back - and they could've done it with the BuzMuzik slot post-Starz if they'd wanted to - then this is a fair enough compromise for the moment.
It's good to have a music channel that's a little more grown up than the average. I see it as a bit like the relationship between MTV and VH1 back when they used to play music videos - MTV had the fresh upbeat young stuff, VH1 the older, steadier-paced sibling but still fresh and current stuff alongside the classics. Like Heart to Capital or Radio 2 to Radio 1. All told, if CSC are making their channels more diverse, then that's a good thing.
Though I should probably withhold my praise a little given that when I've praised music channels and services before, here or elsewhere, they tend to have been withdrawn or altered almost immediately afterward!
As for The Vault, it's become a little too narrow in its focus - the likes of D-Side, Clea and V probably getting more play now than they did when the tunes first came out! That 'millennial' focus on late 90s/early 00s could do with a refresh - if they want to keep the pop-led focus, perhaps adding some 80s chart pop to the mix (Bros, Tiffany et al) alongside chart acts of the 90s and 00s to form a 'home of chart heroes' format? Though maybe their longer game is to refocus Vault as a 'recent hits' channel aimed at younger viewers and leave Bliss to cater for the older audience?
But overall, music channels are a bit samey these days - Bauer in particular seem keen to pump out several variants of essentially the same thing - and there does need to be a channel for those of us who grew up in the Blur and Oasis/Vic and Bob/Adam and Joe era - a UK Play for the modern age - that, though, is a market nobody really wants to be in right now. Perhaps we (by which I mean I) just ain't commercially attractive...
It's good to have a music channel that's a little more grown up than the average. I see it as a bit like the relationship between MTV and VH1 back when they used to play music videos - MTV had the fresh upbeat young stuff, VH1 the older, steadier-paced sibling but still fresh and current stuff alongside the classics. Like Heart to Capital or Radio 2 to Radio 1. All told, if CSC are making their channels more diverse, then that's a good thing.
Though I should probably withhold my praise a little given that when I've praised music channels and services before, here or elsewhere, they tend to have been withdrawn or altered almost immediately afterward!
As for The Vault, it's become a little too narrow in its focus - the likes of D-Side, Clea and V probably getting more play now than they did when the tunes first came out! That 'millennial' focus on late 90s/early 00s could do with a refresh - if they want to keep the pop-led focus, perhaps adding some 80s chart pop to the mix (Bros, Tiffany et al) alongside chart acts of the 90s and 00s to form a 'home of chart heroes' format? Though maybe their longer game is to refocus Vault as a 'recent hits' channel aimed at younger viewers and leave Bliss to cater for the older audience?
But overall, music channels are a bit samey these days - Bauer in particular seem keen to pump out several variants of essentially the same thing - and there does need to be a channel for those of us who grew up in the Blur and Oasis/Vic and Bob/Adam and Joe era - a UK Play for the modern age - that, though, is a market nobody really wants to be in right now. Perhaps we (by which I mean I) just ain't commercially attractive...
Originally Posted by Neil_N:
“Is it the recession leading to all channels having Teleshopping? Its a bummer when you get up early for work and all it is news, teleshopping and kids programmes.”
“Is it the recession leading to all channels having Teleshopping? Its a bummer when you get up early for work and all it is news, teleshopping and kids programmes.”
We aren't in a recession so I doubt it.
I'm amazed people on here still watch music channels. I use to love these channels but now go elsewhere for music videos like Youtube. I keep these channels on in the background but I give up on them improving. The problem is it's wall to wall pop.
Just Dance games cover a wider variety of music 80's, 90's, 00's and present than music channels do. That sums it up really CSC, Bauer are all out of touch with what people want hence the shocking viewing figures. Sooner they shut down the better music channels stopped listening to viewers when they ditched there music video requests, answering emails, twitter and Scuzz forums ect..
Just Dance games cover a wider variety of music 80's, 90's, 00's and present than music channels do. That sums it up really CSC, Bauer are all out of touch with what people want hence the shocking viewing figures. Sooner they shut down the better music channels stopped listening to viewers when they ditched there music video requests, answering emails, twitter and Scuzz forums ect..
Originally Posted by Sylvester2007:
“In fact, looking at it - All AATW channels are Teleshopping 6am-8am”
“In fact, looking at it - All AATW channels are Teleshopping 6am-8am”
I didn't know that as I hardly ever put the TV on at that time anymore. But it's a shame.
Originally Posted by linkinpark875:
“I'm amazed people on here still watch music channels. I use to love these channels but now go elsewhere for music videos like Youtube. I keep these channels on in the background but I give up on them improving. The problem is it's wall to wall pop.
Just Dance games cover a wider variety of music 80's, 90's, 00's and present than music channels do. That sums it up really CSC, Bauer are all out of touch with what people want hence the shocking viewing figures. Sooner they shut down the better music channels stopped listening to viewers when they ditched there music video requests, answering emails, twitter and Scuzz forums ect..”
“I'm amazed people on here still watch music channels. I use to love these channels but now go elsewhere for music videos like Youtube. I keep these channels on in the background but I give up on them improving. The problem is it's wall to wall pop.
Just Dance games cover a wider variety of music 80's, 90's, 00's and present than music channels do. That sums it up really CSC, Bauer are all out of touch with what people want hence the shocking viewing figures. Sooner they shut down the better music channels stopped listening to viewers when they ditched there music video requests, answering emails, twitter and Scuzz forums ect..”
And going the "entertainment" route is really going to do wonders for them? The sooner the better they close the channels then we can actually see how long before these channels "revert" back to what they were known for but they don't want to admit this lets be honest ... they may have big hits with their reality dirge but how long are they planning dragging that out?? Heck people are realising shows like X Factor are manipulated and shows like TOWIE are scripted to buggery .. If people can't see that I do feel sorry for them as this is what we have become as a society, where praisal are now given to the z-listers whilst talented stars and celebs are shunted to the side or basically "slagged" off, makes you think really doesn't it??
I see Jake Quickenden is on doing whole presenting thing again for Chartshow Dance. I strongly believe he is the worst presenter I've ever seen on TV , It's so hard to watch it's as if it's all unrehearsed and words just come into his head as the camera rolls , I wonder how many takes he did doing this? If those are best ones , I strongly advise to get rid of him with immediate effect , He's currently doing the 100 Biggest Ibiza No.1s Ever countdown at the moment. I think it's his looks rather than his personality CSC like about him to be honest.
Bliss is looking as dull as ever , the Chart Show TV Top 20 was on the channel earlier that's about as Lazy it get's for them as it probably requires them less work to playlist tracks given that it takes up almost 2 hours of airtime.
Bliss is looking as dull as ever , the Chart Show TV Top 20 was on the channel earlier that's about as Lazy it get's for them as it probably requires them less work to playlist tracks given that it takes up almost 2 hours of airtime.
Originally Posted by Sunny B:
“He is fit though, you have too agree
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“He is fit though, you have too agree
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I'm a straight male , I'd rather have a fit bird with a likable personality presenting
Originally Posted by JVD:
“I'm a straight male , I'd rather have a fit bird with a likable personality presenting”
“I'm a straight male , I'd rather have a fit bird with a likable personality presenting
”
Well the only other presenters CSC have are Stefanie Faleo (Professional music channel destroyer) and Donatella Panayiotou (Professional footballer shagger)
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“As for The Vault, it's become a little too narrow in its focus - the likes of D-Side, Clea and V probably getting more play now than they did when the tunes first came out! That 'millennial' focus on late 90s/early 00s could do with a refresh - if they want to keep the pop-led focus, perhaps adding some 80s chart pop to the mix (Bros, Tiffany et al) alongside chart acts of the 90s and 00s to form a 'home of chart heroes' format? Though maybe their longer game is to refocus Vault as a 'recent hits' channel aimed at younger viewers and leave Bliss to cater for the older audience?
But overall, music channels are a bit samey these days - Bauer in particular seem keen to pump out several variants of essentially the same thing - and there does need to be a channel for those of us who grew up in the Blur and Oasis/Vic and Bob/Adam and Joe era - a UK Play for the modern age - that, though, is a market nobody really wants to be in right now. Perhaps we (by which I mean I) just ain't commercially attractive...”
“As for The Vault, it's become a little too narrow in its focus - the likes of D-Side, Clea and V probably getting more play now than they did when the tunes first came out! That 'millennial' focus on late 90s/early 00s could do with a refresh - if they want to keep the pop-led focus, perhaps adding some 80s chart pop to the mix (Bros, Tiffany et al) alongside chart acts of the 90s and 00s to form a 'home of chart heroes' format? Though maybe their longer game is to refocus Vault as a 'recent hits' channel aimed at younger viewers and leave Bliss to cater for the older audience?
But overall, music channels are a bit samey these days - Bauer in particular seem keen to pump out several variants of essentially the same thing - and there does need to be a channel for those of us who grew up in the Blur and Oasis/Vic and Bob/Adam and Joe era - a UK Play for the modern age - that, though, is a market nobody really wants to be in right now. Perhaps we (by which I mean I) just ain't commercially attractive...”
The thing I liked about The Vault is the fact they played videos that didn't even make the top 40 but lately it's gone completely Top 5 hits from 1999 to Now. Home of Chart Heroes would mean it would only play number 1s/2s and I think The Vault should focus on Pop music from 1990 to 2 years ago that did get top 10 hits but also the pop flops and the cheesy stuff.
Originally Posted by JVD:
“I see Jake Quickenden is on doing whole presenting thing again for Chartshow Dance. I strongly believe he is the worst presenter I've ever seen on TV , It's so hard to watch it's as if it's all unrehearsed and words just come into his head as the camera rolls , I wonder how many takes he did doing this? If those are best ones , I strongly advise to get rid of him with immediate effect , He's currently doing the 100 Biggest Ibiza No.1s Ever countdown at the moment. I think it's his looks rather than his personality CSC like about him to be honest.
Bliss is looking as dull as ever , the Chart Show TV Top 20 was on the channel earlier that's about as Lazy it get's for them as it probably requires them less work to playlist tracks given that it takes up almost 2 hours of airtime.”
“I see Jake Quickenden is on doing whole presenting thing again for Chartshow Dance. I strongly believe he is the worst presenter I've ever seen on TV , It's so hard to watch it's as if it's all unrehearsed and words just come into his head as the camera rolls , I wonder how many takes he did doing this? If those are best ones , I strongly advise to get rid of him with immediate effect , He's currently doing the 100 Biggest Ibiza No.1s Ever countdown at the moment. I think it's his looks rather than his personality CSC like about him to be honest.
Bliss is looking as dull as ever , the Chart Show TV Top 20 was on the channel earlier that's about as Lazy it get's for them as it probably requires them less work to playlist tracks given that it takes up almost 2 hours of airtime.”
I had to google this Jake person .... aah thats where he is from .... The X Factor! (a show I hardly follow lol). If I am honest presenters of shows should have at least rehearsed before taping or is this one of those "rushed" programmes, pin the presenter down and try and come out glorious
, I thought STV was bad with their own material!I think thats what channels have became - chart playlists by and by night same again but with differing tracks
Originally Posted by Neil_N:
“Is it the recession leading to all channels having Teleshopping? Its a bummer when you get up early for work and all it is news, teleshopping and kids programmes.”
“Is it the recession leading to all channels having Teleshopping? Its a bummer when you get up early for work and all it is news, teleshopping and kids programmes.”
I suspect it's lack of viewers at that time, so they feel no need for music so make some cash instead.
Originally Posted by Rush:
“I quite like Heat at the moment, good to see a channel playing a great mix of pop music.
The Box, Smash Hits and Kiss could all be merged into 1 channel, they are all playing the same songs and of course the UKHot40 20 times a day. I used to love The Box, it was the best music channel 10+ years ago”
“I quite like Heat at the moment, good to see a channel playing a great mix of pop music.
The Box, Smash Hits and Kiss could all be merged into 1 channel, they are all playing the same songs and of course the UKHot40 20 times a day. I used to love The Box, it was the best music channel 10+ years ago”
Could.
Smash Hits has gone so downhill in the matter of months - it's just top 10 biggest hits, UK Hot 40, VIP of the week and then a rotation of about 20 songs on Biggest Hits Of The Decade in roughly 40 minute segments.
Originally Posted by hmeister:
“I didn't know that as I hardly ever put the TV on at that time anymore. But it's a shame.”
“I didn't know that as I hardly ever put the TV on at that time anymore. But it's a shame.”
Me neither, but i'm sure this is new.
Originally Posted by hmeister:
“Well the only other presenters CSC have are Stefanie Faleo (Professional music channel destroyer) and Donatella Panayiotou (Professional footballer shagger)
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“Well the only other presenters CSC have are Stefanie Faleo (Professional music channel destroyer) and Donatella Panayiotou (Professional footballer shagger)
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They have that other Northern camp guy and a really fat camp guy on Flava - Suga Puff or something
Originally Posted by kezo:
“
The thing I liked about The Vault is the fact they played videos that didn't even make the top 40 but lately it's gone completely Top 5 hits from 1999 to Now. Home of Chart Heroes would mean it would only play number 1s/2s and I think The Vault should focus on Pop music from 1990 to 2 years ago that did get top 10 hits but also the pop flops and the cheesy stuff.”
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The thing I liked about The Vault is the fact they played videos that didn't even make the top 40 but lately it's gone completely Top 5 hits from 1999 to Now. Home of Chart Heroes would mean it would only play number 1s/2s and I think The Vault should focus on Pop music from 1990 to 2 years ago that did get top 10 hits but also the pop flops and the cheesy stuff.”
I'd not play anything within the last 5 years and play anything from 80's onwards.
Originally Posted by Sylvester2007:
“They have that other Northern camp guy and a really fat camp guy on Flava - Suga Puff or something
I'd not play anything within the last 5 years and play anything from 80's onwards.”
“They have that other Northern camp guy and a really fat camp guy on Flava - Suga Puff or something
I'd not play anything within the last 5 years and play anything from 80's onwards.”
Haven't seen the Northern camp guy for ages or Suga Puff
Scuzz also has Beez but he wouldn't suit a current music channel. He has taste
They should get Gemma from PopGirl to present the channels. She's much better than Stefanie and Jake. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uQRenlFhN2E
Originally Posted by hmeister:
“Haven't seen the Northern camp guy for ages or Suga Puff
Scuzz also has Beez but he wouldn't suit a current music channel. He has taste
They should get Gemma from PopGirl to present the channels. She's much better than Stefanie and Jake. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uQRenlFhN2E”
“Haven't seen the Northern camp guy for ages or Suga Puff
Scuzz also has Beez but he wouldn't suit a current music channel. He has taste
They should get Gemma from PopGirl to present the channels. She's much better than Stefanie and Jake. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uQRenlFhN2E”
Maybe Faleo sacked them!
Is her name really Gemma Smallpage?
Seen her before somewhere.
MTV Dance have great big pink letters on screen at the moment.
Team Aviici 86% Team Van Buuren 14%
Presumably from one of the versus shows, but it's still on screen in 'Big Summer Tunes' and on the ads!
Originally Posted by Sylvester2007:
“Maybe Faleo sacked them!
Is her name really Gemma Smallpage?
Seen her before somewhere.
MTV Dance have great big pink letters on screen at the moment.
Team Aviici 86% Team Van Buuren 14%
Presumably from one of the versus shows, but it's still on screen in 'Big Summer Tunes' and on the ads!”
“Maybe Faleo sacked them!
Is her name really Gemma Smallpage?
Seen her before somewhere.
MTV Dance have great big pink letters on screen at the moment.
Team Aviici 86% Team Van Buuren 14%
Presumably from one of the versus shows, but it's still on screen in 'Big Summer Tunes' and on the ads!”
Wouldn't surprise me, Faleo wants to be the face of CSC. I'm sure the music on The Vault and Bliss are what she chooses because she likes them. Screw the viewers.
Think so, I used to watch on Sabrina on PopGirl and Gemma would pop in the ad breaks. She's 100x better than the other 2.
Originally Posted by hmeister:
“Wouldn't surprise me, Faleo wants to be the face of CSC. I'm sure the music on The Vault and Bliss are what she chooses because she likes them. Screw the viewers.
Think so, I used to watch on Sabrina on PopGirl and Gemma would pop in the ad breaks. She's 100x better than the other 2.”
“Wouldn't surprise me, Faleo wants to be the face of CSC. I'm sure the music on The Vault and Bliss are what she chooses because she likes them. Screw the viewers.
Think so, I used to watch on Sabrina on PopGirl and Gemma would pop in the ad breaks. She's 100x better than the other 2.”
She's just a fan girl. I nearly coughed on my cuppa when you said she was a manager.
Not seen much of her, but they don't really need a presenter other than on Chart Show for the interviews.
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