Clubland killed real dance as we knew it, glad to see it dying.

May as well throw in MTV into that mix as well

If this is the ratings for the last 2 weeks then I think the reason might be the fact that it has moved to a terrible transponder. When I was in a Student accommodation the other day Clubland along with Capital, Heart and Planet Pop wasn't working and it's not working at home either.

Although Clubland is quite weak at the moment and I haven't watched when there has been signal.

Clubland isn't 25 yet is it?

That CD does not appeal to me and there's only about 6 songs I would listen to. I stopped buying their CDs after around Clubland 18 I think.

Yes it's noise to my ears too , also that new tiesto song makes my ears want to bleed and matthew komas vocals on that track sound like they are female vocals yet his voice is fairly masculine.

Its the "beat" that everyone use in their songs .... its like going back to the old modem you use to connect to the internet and thats music??

It must be if the last one you bought was 18 lol ..... I only bought the first one that featured artists i mentioned above Flip n Fill Lasgo

Going by what you listed as Bad/Over rated - pretty much sums up how bad playlisting actually is these days its shocking, surprised that Clubland didn't throw in Tweedy to the mix with her new one!

CD 18 wasn't very good either. The last good one was Clubland 9 which I've lost http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Clublan...tion_series%29

The good songs on the current CD are really good, they may be mainstream but NRG by Duck Sauce and #Selfie by Chainsmokers are really catchy songs. Don't think I've heard the new Cascada song but I put it as OK because it's Cascada.

I think if SubTV Music ever launches then it might partially fill the void for dance and indie as from what I've seen on TVCatchup it plays loads of dance and indie. I

Can't stand that Chainsmokers #selfie song if I am honest plus the "title" of it is whats gone wrong in music of today, I blame Robin Thicke on that one with #hashtagging throughout his video


With you mentioning Clubland 9 here is the list
Disc: 1
1. From Paris To Berlin - Infernal
2. Everytime We Touch - Cascada
3. Dancing In The Dark - Micky Modelle, Jessy
4. L'Amour Toujours - Gigi D'Agostino
5. S.O.S. - A-Studio
6. First Time - Sunblock, Robin Beck
7. Angel - Flip & Fill
8. Right Beside You - Dancing DJs, Victoria
9. Out Of My Hands - D:Code
10. Everyday Of My Life - Hackett
11. Last Goodbye - Da Buzz
12. We Can Runaway - Ultrasun
13. Don't Stop The Music - Disco Kids
14. Deep Inside - Club
15. Tell Me - Grooveland
16. Living On Video - Pakito, Dj Set
17. Waiting For Tonight - Alex Gaudino & Jerma pres. Lil Love
18. Cruising - Alex Prince, N&K vs. Denis The Menace, Günther Haas, DTM, Jens Maiwald, Tobias Fiedler
19. Rock Da House - Tall Paul
20. Celebrate The Summer - Lacuna
Disc: 2
1. So Under Pressure - Dannii Minogue
2. Faster Kill Pussycat - Oakenfold, Brittany Murphy
3. Stoned In Love - Chicane, Tom Jones
4. Love Sensation 2006 - Eddie Thoneick, Kurd Maverick
5. Maneater - Nelly Furtado, Timbaland, Danja
6. Somebody's Watching Me - Rockwell, Curtis Anthony Nolen
7. Elysium (I Go Crazy) - Ultrabeat
8. Angel Eyes - Eyeopener
9. Keep On Moving - Starstylers, Michy
10. Nobody Like You - Kelly Llorenna
11. Now I'm Free (Freefallin') - Freeloaders
12. Yeah Yeah - Bodyrox
13. Changes - Chris Lake
14. Something On Your Mind - Mark Brown, MYNC Project, Nick Correlli, Gez Dewar, Abigail Bailey, Mark Hoey, The Soul Seekerz
15. Something (To Make You Feel Alright) - Silosonic
16. Thunder In My Heart Again - Meck, Clive Black, Leo Sayer, Lee Dagger, Mark JB
17. Borderline - Michael Gray, Shelly Poole
18. Red Dress - Sugababes, Xenomania, Jeremy Wheatley, Richard Edgeler, Tim Powell, Brian Higgins, Bob Bradley, Nick Coler, Shawn Lee, Tim "Rolf" Larcombe, Jon Shave, Dario Dendi, Chris Poulter, Zoe Smith, Dennis Christopher
19. What A Feeling - Andy Hughes, The Hughes Corporation, Simon Russell
20. Satellites - September
21. The Summer Is Magic - Frisco

Closest one I could find - Clubland 2

Disc: 1
1. Brothers & Sisters- 2 Funky 2 Feat Kathryn Dion (Clubstar Remix)
2. Forever - N-Trance (Voodoo & Serano Remix)
3. In My Eyes - Milk Inc (Flip & Fill Remix)
4. Lover - Rachel MacFarlane (Flip & Fill Remix)
5. Electronic Pleasure - N-Trance (Lockout Remix)
6. Your Caress - DJ Flavours (Disco Mission Remix)
7. Shake Ya Shimmy - Porn Kings v Flip & Fill feat 740 (Boyz FNP Remix)
8. Hard To Say I'm Sorry - Aquagen (DJ Demand Remix)
9. Kiss This - Friday Night Posse
10. Everything U Need - LMC feat Karen West
11. True Love Never Dies - Flip & Fill feat Kelly Llorenna
12. Forever - Trinity X
13. Shooting Star - Flip & Fill (Pascal Remix)
14. Set You Free - N-Trance (Rob Searle Remix)
15. Field Of Dreams - Force & Styles (Voodoo & Serano Remix)
16. The Mind Of The Machine - N-Trance (Revelation Mix)
17. Forever Young - Interactive
18. I Will Follow You - Shelley (Kenny Hayes Remix)
19. Tell It To My Heart - Kelly Llorenna
Disc: 2
1. Heart Of Gold - Kelly Llorenna
2. I Think We're Alone Now - Pascal feat Karen Parry
3. Dance - DJ Lee's Apollo
4. Alone - Lasgo
5. Walk On Water - Milk Inc
6. 4 O'Clock In The Morning - Lazard
7. Field Of Dreams - Flip & Fill
8. Cast A Spell - Disco Tex (Pascal Remix)
9. Be Cool - Paffendorf
10. Pizzaman - Cisco Kid
11. Hard To Say I'm Sorry - Aquagen (Flip & Fill Mix)
12. Power Of Love - QTex
13. Missing You - Lucy Carr (Kenny Hayes Remix)
14. Elevation - Move Your Body - Xpansions (Nordlander Remix)
15. Beautiful Child - Madelyne
16. At Night - Shakedown
17. Fantasy - Appleton (Tom Mandolini Vocal Mix)
18. Holiday - Mad'House
19. Starry Eyed Surprise - Paul Oakenfold
20. Ketchup Song Asereje - Las Ketchup

Compare it between Clubland 2 and 9 yes there was at least some "pop" I could be wrong in this but Clubland 9 seems to be more "pop" than dance ie Nelly Furtado/Timbaland (like the song I admit but ..... )

Since I have put these lists up from Clubland DOES the channel actually play songs like this at all or is it with the "in thing" at moment?

Yeah Clubland 9 is full of Pop but back then it was the cheesy pop dance that wasn't really seen as cool to listen to. Now Clubland relies on chart hits

Right now they're playing a remix of Demi Lovato's latest song which is featured on the new CD. Not a bad song but not really suited to a dance channel.

Edit: A remix may be seen as a crime to some but I actually really like this Demi Lovato remix https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fLrWHSWP6Ws

John Martin is on now and it's a Tiesto remix

I hate to say it but all types of music these days are going up creek without a paddle Demi Lovato is on MTV Dance as well

So in other words (aimed at clubland brand not you) we now need to be more mainstream than ever for hits - we will use anyone and everyone to make the album - your meant to be a brand thats all about DANCE/CLUB music WTF is this cack now?

Well at least I can say I am pretty spot on with the MTV Dance/Base playlists (at times) its just the same songs apart from minor changes

All these channels have completely lost their ways, there is no real thought going into any music at all its pathetic really

That remix could have been good if it didn't have those shitty big room 'Swedish house Mafia' styled sounds.

I much prefer the older tunes from Myon & Shane 54

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oTXaD-PGqE8

There's something about current dance music that I both like and dislike.

LIKE Dance music over the past 2 years has slowly become a tiny bit better and featuring less rappers and more actual vocals or no vocals at all. From around 2005 to 2012 every dance track featured AKON, Jay Z, Pitbull, Chris Brown etc and it was awful.

DISLIKE For me it's become way too mainstream. Everyone is listening to dance music and more and more artists are dipping their feet into the water such as Cold Play, Ellie Goulding and Demi Lovato plus a lot of the dance beats sound the same. The likes of Martin Garrix and Avicii seem to be getting so popular that the quality of their songs seems to be falling and older artists like Tiesto, Armin Van Buuren etc seem to be getting worse and worse.

The fact that dance has become so mainstream means that it is played so much on the chart channels and radio stations that it is no longer worth watching on a dance orientated tv channel or radio station. The broadcasters seem to be scared to play classics (other than the usual ones) and lesser know hits because they seem to think that the British public only want to hear/see what is 'Trending'.

I agree with what you say but the likes of Pitbull/Chris Brown and even Enrique Iglesias have got in the habit of "dance" - maybe its a start that dance music is featuring less rappers on them but on the other hand its them that are now the new "dance" music (which I have got no real idea how thats possible)

If they all want to tackle dance then do it differently but they all on some sort of same beat bandwagon, I initally thought artists go through phases ie be R&B then dance then revert back but to some its just stick to dance (why??)

I agree that channels/radio stations are scared to play more classics its like as if some hits we made back in the day or shall we say misses barely get play! I wouldn't mind more unknowns being played as it would be a laugh (in a good way bring back memories) but I doubt it will happen. Its much like asking VH1 to play "10 of the best from Simply Red" but they won't touch that with a barge pole!

I really don't know why artists feel the need to stray away from their original genre. They always end up being terrible.

Paramore are a rock band who were played on Scuzz and Kerrang but now they've changed to become pure pop and are played on the chart channels. It just doesn't work for them.

I think I might stick to online radio sites like di.fm if I want to listen to dance music. The UK has no dance radio stations left as Capital and Heart have taken over everything.

i think 2005 , 2006 and first half of 2007 were great moments and the years before it for Dance music as it was lesser commercial back then and far more listener friendly than it is now , it was the second half of 2007 when things took a tumble a year and by the time 2008 came along you had 'Clubland TV' making an appearance which ruined what we had going during those past years before what with the chav rubbish like Black Out Crew and that awful T2 - Heartbroken track , I remember these years very vaguely , It was heavily noticeable on rival competitor channel Flaunt at the time which went rock bottom soon after the launch of Clubland TV , I think it's fair to say that Clubland TV played a part in destroying the cooler and obscure side to Dance music on TV which lead to such a dull and bland present we have today on Dance music Television , Urban being on Dance channels were trialled months and years before Clubland TV so the fault of that lays with MTV/CSC , I don't know why they Insist that whoever like Dance music likes Urban/R&B music also , some do but not all you don't see Rock music channels blending in crap like Busted , McFly , Jonas Brothers or any Boyband however Rocky they were/are being played on Scuzz , MTV 2 (Now MTV Rocks) , Kerrang , NME TV at the time! Dance fans realistically have no real alternative 'Dance' channel anymore not since Rapture TV closed down with all 3 existing ones being exactly the same.

I take a strong dislike to Martin Garrix and Avicii mainly down to their style in music it's not really something that is deemed 'Listener Friendly' its mostly for 'Drunken Chavs at the Clubs who like this shit' it's the same with Armin van Buuren and Tiesto I used to really look upto these guys back in my teenage years they introduced me into a music scene i follow to this present day... respect for that but they have sold out and abandoned their true loyal fans and opted for a more commercialist crowd. Commercial crowd never stay loyal anyway by the time the EDM trend ends they'll have no one to turn to as both will be gone , I see this as their Career closer for retirement.

Or in most cases to them its a level up (which to us is a level down), I am aware of Paramore, I did wonder that why I see them more on the other MTV channels (give it time be a dance remix of one of their songs it'll appear on MTV Dance next i'm sure!)

I agree with you there is no real dance radio stations now, either they have closed down/merged to be part of a brand ie Capital/Bauer, the only station I think has stuck to its r&b roots (correct me anyone) is BBC Radio 1Xtra but I can be wrong on that too!

Rumour has it Flava, Chart Show Dance & Starz will be gone at the end of the year.

You can't expect Clubland to be full of commercial trance when nobody is making it (or if they are nobody is listening to it). It's understandable that it has to feature the hits. Dance is in a better state than it was a few years ago when it was just David Guetta and Americans.

Hope CS Dance survives because it's currently at its best since the Flaunt days.

Two lower performers but Bliss also gets hardly any viewers. Beats me why the old company who owned CSC bought Starz it was one of the few video jukebox channels left.

Surely it will be whoever is attached to the Sony Record Label and it's smaller branches that will be played the most?


Clubland TV is so boring these days, i'm not surprised by this album.

Same artists, same songs inc Demi Lovato, Selena Gomez, Ellie Goulding, Rita Ora and all the new crap that all sounds the same.

They still have Liz McClarnon, Woman In Love, on one of the programs and it's a ballad with no dance beat or mix at all.

Chart Show Tv is to be investigated by Ofcom during them showing the uk top 40 I don't what they have done wrong but its got 5 complaints.

I understand that but look at the state of it really - a channel known as MTV Dance features the likes of Chris Brown/Jason Derulo on the channel (sure as fate give it time they'll be on the Clubland channel or album), what is dance music these days as I am getting ever confused by the day!

Is it meant to be the likes of Tiesto, Guetta, Avicii? Fine OK i'll stick to that but when its the likes of Flo-Rida etc now doing the "dance" it completely buggers me and my understanding to what I knew was dance and yet on the other side its "choreographed" dance again WTF is dance and what exactly is meant to be dance music??