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Usually, the top 4 is split with 2 women vs 2 men with the exception of series 1.
I think, this series, we are bound to get a more female dominated top 4. I think Kate and Yasmina are certs for the final 4 and it's going to take a lot to fire Debra by the looks of things. And, by the same token, do you genuinely see 2 out of Howard/James/Ben in the top 4. I think Ben will be the next to go out of the men, and I really dont think James is capable enough to make it past the interviews... I'd love to see Lorraine in the final, but I would wager that this won't happen. I suspect the final contenders will be the delightfully nondescript Kate and Yasmina. If this is the case I sincerely hope Yasmina wins..... she has a much more commanding persona and has demonstrated that she can manage a team effectively, having won 2 tasks.
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Kate and Yasmina will definitely make the Final Two and from the lads, I can only really see Howard joining them...
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It would certainly be good tv if James and Ben get to the interview stage - I can imagine them ripping the Sandhurst boy to shreds, and it would be fascinating to see how James handles it... I don't think he'll impersonate an eagle (or whatever it was that Lee did...).
Ability wise, Kate & Yasmina, plus any other three of the also rans... tv wise, James, Ben, Debra and Lorraine... and maybe Kate to see if they have a go at her 'glamourous' looks... Howard seems to fall just outside the best candidates, but also outside of the more interesting candidates... he'll probably win now i've said that
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No she wasn't. Philip was project leader for the "10 items task", as you call it.
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I think it's really a reach to call Ben mid-pack last week when he sold nothing and set up a pitch that resulted in derisory sales. Also from what I could see of the other team, he didn't lead one pitch all day.
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I now think the top 4 will be
Kate Yasmina James one of Howard and Lorraine Im going to say Howard but he really doesnt deserve it |
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I now think the top 4 will be
Kate Yasmina James one of Howard and Lorraine Im going to say Howard but he really doesnt deserve it At the moment we have 7: Ben Debra Howard James Kate Lorraine Yasmina Episode 9: 'Baby' task -1 leaving 6 Episode 10: 'QVC' task -1 leaving 5 Episode 11: Interviews. Epsode 12: Finale. Have I missed something or, discounting a double firing, will there not be 5 for the interviews? |
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Last year there were 5 for the interviews and 4 for the final. Previous years have had 4 for the interviews and 2 for the final. I don't know what they are going to do this year, but "final four" is traditional.
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Last year there were 5 for the interviews and 4 for the final. Previous years have had 4 for the interviews and 2 for the final. I don't know what they are going to do this year, but "final four" is traditional.
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People keep talking about the top 4.
At the moment we have 7: Ben Debra Howard James Kate Lorraine Yasmina Episode 9: 'Baby' task -1 leaving 6 Episode 10: 'QVC' task -1 leaving 5 Episode 11: Interviews. Epsode 12: Finale. Have I missed something or, discounting a double firing, will there not be 5 for the interviews? So Tre, Lohit, Katie, Kristina and Simon were the top 5 Tre, Katie, Kristina and Simon were the top 4 |
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Yes, there will be five for the interviews. However there will still be a top 4, right after IMO Lorraine is fired, being the first one of the triple firing.
So Tre, Lohit, Katie, Kristina and Simon were the top 5 Tre, Katie, Kristina and Simon were the top 4 Are you saying that when AS fires three people he does it in an explicit order of demerit? Unless he actually says something like: "Well, of you five the most useless is X, you're fired, then Y, you're fired then Z, you're fired, I would still take that as going straight from a top five to a top two. Really, we're counting the number of people going forward from the end of each programme. |
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I haven't seen that series yet.
Are you saying that when AS fires three people he does it in an explicit order of demerit? Unless he actually says something like: "Well, of you five the most useless is X, you're fired, then Y, you're fired then Z, you're fired, I would still take that as going straight from a top five to a top two. Really, we're counting the number of people going forward from the end of each programme. Lohit was clearly the person SA thought would just never fit into his company. And the interviewers really did not see him as capable. I think he actually keeps his top 3 in the top 3 as he wants people to fight for the job and to maybe sway his mind. I definitely think that it is in order. And when I said top 4 I meant the last 4 remaining. And they will probs be Howard, James, Kate, Yasmina. SA will see the last 4 as the top 4 in many people's minds and that is what I meant |
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Considering that is the only series he has done it in, YES, I think it is based on worst to 3rd worst.
Lohit was clearly the person SA thought would just never fit into his company. And the interviewers really did not see him as capable. I think he actually keeps his top 3 in the top 3 as he wants people to fight for the job and to maybe sway his mind. I definitely think that it is in order. And when I said top 4 I meant the last 4 remaining. And they will probs be Howard, James, Kate, Yasmina. SA will see the last 4 as the top 4 in many people's minds and that is what I meant Did this top four ever do anything as a group (such as have a treat or compete as two teams)? For how long was there a top 4 before there was a top 3? Maybe I'm missing something but I can't see how you can ascribe any significance to something that is entirely transitory.
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I have to say that seems to be a completely artificial way of looking at things.
Did this top four ever do anything as a group (such as have a treat or compete as two teams)? For how long was there a top 4 before there was a top 3? Maybe I'm missing something but I can't see how you can ascribe any significance to something that is entirely transitory. ![]() I will have to re phrase it for your sake. I find it difficult to understand how 2/3 remaining men can be in last 4 remaining contestants sitting at the table after SA fires the first candidate after the interviews. However I do now think the top four are James Kate Yasmina and Howard |
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We will just agree to disagree. I think the top 4 out of the 5 remaining at the interview stage are who SA thinks are the 4 best candidates out of the top 5. You obviously dont think that.
I will have to re phrase it for your sake. I find it difficult to understand how 2/3 remaining men can be in last 4 remaining contestants sitting at the table after SA fires the first candidate after the interviews. However I do now think the top four are James Kate Yasmina and Howard ![]() If we're going for four, what about the top three. Howard, Kate and Yasmia would be my guess. |
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Have just read this thread and the only thing I don't understand is your problem with 'top 4' Tern. You keep banging on about it - why?
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Have just read this thread and the only thing I don't understand is your problem with 'top 4' Tern.
The problem is spelled out in post #31 in terms a child of three could understand. Quote:
You keep banging on about it - why?
Again, I've explained in the simplest possible terms so why you are having a problem I can't imagine.You seem to have posted this just to be snitty. |
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In previous years, I also understood it as SAS firing the interviewee candidates in order of demerit. Lohit had no real chance, and neither did Tre, whereas the three left, SAS was clearly torn between.
Though it depends on editing. In S1 it looked as though James (having been one of the strongest candidates throughout and most times on the winning team) was fired before Paul, but in fact this was due to editing, and Paul had been fired in 4th place, James in 3rd. I guess ultimately it doesn't matter all that much. It just depends on who gets to the Final, and in SAS's own words, there is only one prize! I just hope that it's the traditional two, and not the odd situation we had last year. The only ones I can realistically see getting into the final would be between Kate, Yasmina, James and Howard, so they would be my top four. |
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Have just read this thread and the only thing I don't understand is your problem with 'top 4' Tern. You keep banging on about it - why?
Anyway, I think the top 3 will be Howard Kate and Yasmina. James in "top 4", Lorraine in "top 5" |
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Last year there were 5 for the interviews and 4 for the final. Previous years have had 4 for the interviews and 2 for the final. I don't know what they are going to do this year, but "final four" is traditional.
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To be honest I see Tern's point. But I dont know why he/she kept banging on about it
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Have just read this thread and the only thing I don't understand is your problem with 'top 4' Tern. You keep banging on about it - why?
If there is 5 at the interviews, we are missing a week. The BBC would have commissioned x episodes and if one candidate dropped out, they would be one short. Easiest way would be to knock one out at the interview stage and then do what happened in the past and do a task with 2 in each team. but rather than choose the winner from 4, he could fire 2, leaving 2 to battle out a final task. So how big are the final teams? I only watched the occasional episode previous years as I travelled a lot the last few years. Someone mentioned it being typically a product launch. How big a team do they need to run? Would the client then choose or does SAS simply assess their PM skills, creativity, selling/pitching as well as interpersonal skills all in one? |
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As far as I remember each time three candidates are brought back per "team". So it was 5 (Alex, Helene, Jenny Mags, Kevin, Raef) vs 5 (Claire, Lee, Jenny Celery, Michael, Simon) last year, and 4 vs 4 every year before that.
The results of the final task are pretty nebulous. There's never a set "winner" or "loser" and often the eventual hiring isn't really connected to the task by Siralan in any logical way (for example in the first two years Tim and then Michelle both made less profit than their final 2 competitors and then won anyway). Best just to view it as a last chance for comedy and arguments and a way to fill time before Siralan makes his decision based on the 6 months the candidates have just spent working for him. |
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Well, perhaps if you read it again.
The problem is spelled out in post #31 in terms a child of three could understand. Again, I've explained in the simplest possible terms so why you are having a problem I can't imagine. You seem to have posted this just to be snitty. You were going on and on about 4 this, 4 that - it was the OP that made the initial statement re the final 4. |
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I do not know why you are so condescending.
What was the purpose of your original post on this thread other than to be rude? |
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Well, if you start making snitty, unhelpful, posts when someone is just trying to work out what's going on then you are going to appear snotty and invite condescending posts.
What was the purpose of your original post on this thread other than to be rude? |
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I suspect the final contenders will be the delightfully nondescript Kate and Yasmina. If this is the case I sincerely hope Yasmina wins..... she has a much more commanding persona and has demonstrated that she can manage a team effectively, having won 2 tasks.
