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Old 19-05-2009, 00:32
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If there is 5 at the interviews, we are missing a week. The BBC would have commissioned x episodes and if one candidate dropped out, they would be one short.

Easiest way would be to knock one out at the interview stage and then do what happened in the past and do a task with 2 in each team. but rather than choose the winner from 4, he could fire 2, leaving 2 to battle out a final task.
Or to eliminate three at the interview stage and then have two go head to head against each other in the final, which they did in S3.

I thought all the series except S4 had had five at the interview stage and eliminated three, but it seems I'm misremembering S1 and S2; did they only have four for the interviews?
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Old 19-05-2009, 01:35
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As far as I remember each time three candidates are brought back per "team". So it was 5 (Alex, Helene, Jenny Mags, Kevin, Raef) vs 5 (Claire, Lee, Jenny Celery, Michael, Simon) last year, and 4 vs 4 every year before that.

The results of the final task are pretty nebulous. There's never a set "winner" or "loser" and often the eventual hiring isn't really connected to the task by Siralan in any logical way (for example in the first two years Tim and then Michelle both made less profit than their final 2 competitors and then won anyway). Best just to view it as a last chance for comedy and arguments and a way to fill time before Siralan makes his decision based on the 6 months the candidates have just spent working for him.
Who decides the teams though.

Bearing in mind I'm assuming Yasmina vs Kate. If I was SAS, I could choose people I know my candidates would struggle with. Maybe that is why Phil was papped with Kate. Bringing Phil back and proving him not a distraction would prove it a one off if she could feel assured he'd keep his eye on the ball. Or SAS could bring back all the balshy/argumentative people to manage aka Ben, debra, Phil, Lorraine - its funny when you look and see most of them still there lol
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Old 19-05-2009, 02:29
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Or to eliminate three at the interview stage and then have two go head to head against each other in the final, which they did in S3.

I thought all the series except S4 had had five at the interview stage and eliminated three, but it seems I'm misremembering S1 and S2; did they only have four for the interviews?
In S1, Miriam was fired in the Shopping Channel Task in the episode before interviews leaving four interviewees: Tim, Saira, James and Paul. Paul and James then being fired at interview.

In S2, it was Syed who faced the chop before interview. He was in a two-person team with Ruth. Paul, Ansell and Michelle won that task (cruise task) and went straight to interview, again leaving four with two fired.

I would expect, if five at interview, to see a repeat of S3 with just two left. Or at least that's what I would hope for.
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Old 19-05-2009, 08:17
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Who decides the teams though.

Bearing in mind I'm assuming Yasmina vs Kate. If I was SAS, I could choose people I know my candidates would struggle with. Maybe that is why Phil was papped with Kate. Bringing Phil back and proving him not a distraction would prove it a one off if she could feel assured he'd keep his eye on the ball. Or SAS could bring back all the balshy/argumentative people to manage aka Ben, debra, Phil, Lorraine - its funny when you look and see most of them still there lol
IIrc the candidates choose their own teams.
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Old 19-05-2009, 08:31
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Merely to point you in the direction of the original poster
Well you did an absolutely useless job of that!

You said: "Have just read this thread and the only thing I don't understand is your problem with 'top 4' Tern. You keep banging on about it - why?"

I can't see any pointing there. You just posted to be rude and then got surprised when you were called on it.

Still, no point in banging on about it, is there?
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Old 19-05-2009, 09:12
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I don't think I've seen a thread Tern has posted in a while without him/her entering a heated debate about something more often than not esoteric...

Have you applied for series 6?
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Old 19-05-2009, 09:36
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I don't think I've seen a thread Tern has posted in a while without him/her entering a heated debate about something more often than not esoteric...

Have you applied for series 6?

Lol
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Old 19-05-2009, 09:49
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I don't think I've seen a thread Tern has posted in a while without him/her entering a heated debate about something more often than not esoteric...

Have you applied for series 6?
If you think these are esoteric you should see the ones on the quantum mechanics and general relativity forums.

No time to go on series 6 - too busy having esoteric arguments here.
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Old 19-05-2009, 09:54
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If you think these are esoteric you should see the ones on the quantum mechanics and general relativity forums.

No time to go on series 6 - too busy having esoteric arguments here.
Ah...quantum mechanics, the epitome of the esoteric that may one day bring us much, much more.

Actually that's probably rubbish, there's a lot of interesting stuff on it and if you ask me, it does the same job as religion for many scientists...

What's the thread about again?
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Old 19-05-2009, 09:58
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What's the thread about again?
Wave particle duality of selling tasks IIRC.
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Old 19-05-2009, 20:54
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If there is 5 at the interviews, we are missing a week. The BBC would have commissioned x episodes and if one candidate dropped out, they would be one short.
I think they have some flexibility. Last year, for example, we had a double-firing after task 7. The previous year we lost two candidates after task 2, when Ifti effectively quit. What happened this year was effectively the Ifti situation only a few days earlier. I expect they wait until half-way through, then look at how many candidates they have and decide whether to have 4 in the final, a task double-firing, or to lose 1, 2 or 3 in the interviews.
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Old 19-05-2009, 20:58
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Who decides the teams though.
The producers and/or Sir Alan decide which ex-candidates to invite back. The ex-candidates can refuse. That produces a pool of candidates. The finalists take turns to pick from that.

In the first year, most of the ex-candidates were available, and the finalists could only pick 3 of them. In later years only 6 were available so all ended up on one team or another.

If I was SAS, I could choose people I know my candidates would struggle with.
Quite so.
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Old 19-05-2009, 22:52
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The producers and/or Sir Alan decide which ex-candidates to invite back. The ex-candidates can refuse. That produces a pool of candidates. The finalists take turns to pick from that.

In the first year, most of the ex-candidates were available, and the finalists could only pick 3 of them. In later years only 6 were available so all ended up on one team or another.

Quite so.
Maybe that was why Phil was papped in London with Kate?

I actually wonder if Kate would choose him if she was in the top 2. Or if Yasmine chose him ' would actually make me laugh if a situation occurred with him helping the competition. because presumably youàd pick candidates to help you win and make you look good? The only real ones I'd even slightly want in the pool if I were choosing would be Paula, Kimberly, Phil, Ben, James, and maybe Mona, if sales based. Mind you, it would depend on the task.
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Old 19-05-2009, 23:45
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The producers and/or Sir Alan decide which ex-candidates to invite back. The ex-candidates can refuse. That produces a pool of candidates. The finalists take turns to pick from that.
I feel they should actually have all the ex-candidates who are willing to come back available for the final task.
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Old 28-05-2009, 10:12
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Haha.

The next two to go were both men.

Not looking likley now
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