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*The Apprentice - The Official Odds* (Possible Spoilers?)
Kate - 3/1
Yasmina - 5/1 James - 8/1 Debra - 8/1 Howard - 10/1 Lorraine - 16/1 Ben - 16/1 Mona - 20/1 - Gone now Will The Apprentice Be Won By A Male Or Female?: 1/2 Female, 6/4 Male. Could this be a giveaway of the top 4? I can really see the top 4 on that list being the top for as Lorraine and Ben will be the next two to go I'm sure of it Link |
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Interesting. If I were a betting man, I'd put £15 (or a multiple thereof) on Kate and £10 (or the same multiple) on Yasmina. That would effectively create odds of 7/5 against one of those two winning, which looks much better value than the 1/2 for a female.
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I suspect Howard will do better than these odds suggest.
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Yeah, those odds look like I'd expect, although I'd swap Howard and James around. James is actually my favourite, but I think he's a bit too silly for the job, and Howard has demonstrated a lot of sense and logic in the previous tasks. And he hasn't messed up drastically yet.
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Surely, in any sane world, there's no way anyone would employ Debra over Howard?
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Surely, in any sane world, there's no way anyone would employ Debra over Howard?
I think howard has potential but he really has kept himself too quiet and in the background, so he really does have a lot of ground to make up. As for Debra; well she may stay over James or Howard. But the moment it comes Debra or Kate OR Debra or Yasmina, she would be gone unless both of them reall screw up. |
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NNo. But we don't know what happens in the task. SAS has fired 3 people for saying they have stayed too much in the background. Mona had one good week, so did Howard. But if he performs badly and doesn't sell SAS may argue that he doesn't have all the attributes. And Howard,for SAS, is not as good telly as Debra. Plus, what if Debra does sell and he doesn't?
I think howard has potential but he really has kept himself too quiet and in the background, so he really does have a lot of ground to make up. As for Debra; well she may stay over James or Howard. But the moment it comes Debra or Kate OR Debra or Yasmina, she would be gone unless both of them reall screw up. But I said 'hire'. I can't think of any real business position where she'd perform better than Howard unless it's some sort specialised selling like a Tupperware party - where she could use her drive, energy and bossiness to really keep things moving. In a few years when she's matured a bit and if she can do some work on the people skills I suspect she will become a considerable asset but for now, no. |
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I'd agree that from a TV POV it would make sense to keep Debra over Howard if you know that you're not going to hire Howard.
But I said 'hire'. I can't think of any real business position where she'd perform better than Howard unless it's some sort specialised selling like a Tupperware party - where she could use her drive, energy and bossiness to really keep things moving. In a few years when she's matured a bit and if she can do some work on the people skills I suspect she will become a considerable asset but for now, no. I really can't see Howard, James, Debra or Lorraine doing enough to get through to the final two. Ben I could see, only because he gets himself involved in every task, but would he win? He's certainly not liked by the public that is for sure and SAS hasn't looked impressed with his arrogance. But I hate to say this, but Debra's bossiness, chat and general pushiness could actually put her in good stead for the next task. It's a sales task and you need to be out there, convincing and in this type of task, a little pushy. Howard might be a little too mild and not proactive enough in this task in comparison. And this late in the game, you cannot step back from the task and let the "louder" and "more dominant" members take over. |
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But I hate to say this, but Debra's bossiness, chat and general pushiness could actually put her in good stead for the next task. It's a sales task and you need to be out there, convincing and in this type of task, a little pushy. Howard might be a little too mild and not proactive enough in this task in comparison. And this late in the game, you cannot step back from the task and let the "louder" and "more dominant" members take over.
It's exactly the type of sales that Debra would be good at. Geeing the customers up to make purchases of things they are definitely in the market for. Should be a good task. (Plenty of room for comedy value at well). |
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I think you may well be right.
It's exactly the type of sales that Debra would be good at. Geeing the customers up to make purchases of things they are definitely in the market for. Should be a good task. (Plenty of room for comedy value at well). This time her team seems to be picking better items. But Birthing pools James? High profit margins but not something that will have a large number of buyers given the fact it relates to home births and they can be expensive. Howard - I'm undecided as to how he would do as he really hasn't featured much in the editing of sales tasks. As Yasmina seems to do okay, but again, in the editing I have never seen her as one of the strongest sellers. But saying that we have still seen some of the above sell even if they may not come across as "strong". The only people I could instinctively say had good negotiation skills are Kate and Debra. |
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I don't understand the logic of this - surely there's way too much insider information ex-post... |
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Take it back. Appears that you can't actually bet it - it's just for interest.
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Yeh just for interest.
Funny how Ben seems most likley to go in tonight's episode and he is now last on the list! |
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I'd agree that from a TV POV it would make sense to keep Debra over Howard if you know that you're not going to hire Howard.
But I said 'hire'. I can't think of any real business position where she'd perform better than Howard unless it's some sort specialised selling like a Tupperware party - where she could use her drive, energy and bossiness to really keep things moving. In a few years when she's matured a bit and if she can do some work on the people skills I suspect she will become a considerable asset but for now, no. But if we are talking hiring Debra over Howard; I would. What has he done exactly that has made him shine. I've been watching some of the old shows back and Debra does make some good points about things in tasks. She's also proactive and good at arguing her points (on most occasions). Howard, for me, based on history, isn't proactive and sits far to much in the background. a few common sense points does not equal to me an apprentice. He has no strong selling skills, no leadership skills and doesn't seem to possess a large amount of creative flair. I don't think Debra is the best in there and certainly rate Kate and Yasmina above her; but I still don't think we've really seen Howard do much. It's interesting to watch a bunch of shows together. I cannot stand Ben and literally want to tear my hair out when he is on TV. But he has been heavily involved in tasks and does show creative flair and selling/pitching skills. Ironically, his main poor weeks for me was when he was PM and the selling up north task (but he did seem to do more than Kate and Phil there). But aside from that he has performed well. |
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The outcome, at least the 2 finalists, was determined 6 months ago. William Hill cannot possibly be taking bets on it. What's to stop the large number of people in the know taking Mr Hill to the cleaners?
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I think you may well be right.
It's exactly the type of sales that Debra would be good at. Geeing the customers up to make purchases of things they are definitely in the market for. Should be a good task. (Plenty of room for comedy value at well). |
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Yeh just for interest.
Funny how Ben seems most likley to go in tonight's episode and he is now last on the list!
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And now Lorraine is last...
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