It's an issue because none of us wants to give incorrect advice on these forums. The installer could have entered the secret menu and changed the connection mode in seconds without you noticing. No one doubts your pvr is fully functional only the fact that installing a second cable is automatically recognised. Prepared to bet that if you disconnect the second cable do a factory reset and then reconnect the second cable it won't work properly until you do a second reset or change the connection mode in the secret menu to two cables (same)

You are not listening. I was watching my screen all the time. If anything was done I wanted to know for the future in case problems arose. No Secret menu was entered. So in my case the second cable was recognised without any other intervention. I cannot explain that . I am not fiddling about removing cablesjust to prove a point, as I am disabled ..

I even asked the installer if anything needed to be done to enable the second cable, He answered no. He also said he had done a number of second cable installations in the same way. All had worked correctly.The installer did not bring the box. That was set up with one input by a friend. The installer then came a week or so later to add another feed.

I am telling you as it was. Not giving false information. If others do not work then the work around is simple.

I am sorry but i just get fed up with my word being questioned and also the highlighted quote by you as if whoopee you are right.

In my case you are wrong it worked. I would add This is a family Installation business which I am part of. I am not a technician however I do have a reasonable amount of knowledge. Modern electronic devices are inconsistent at best. You only have to look at the faults reported on this forum. Some people are affected. Others are not.

I give up, you have a unique hdr, so far no one else on any forum has been able to reproduce this on any firmware version including 03.

Unique I don't think so. Forums probably make up a very small percentage of users. Who knows how other users get on.

I have no wish to be obtuse, difficult or different. I can only post my experiences. If they are not in line with yours , then tough . Some things in life just cannot be explained. I saw what happened you didn't.

I've had a Humax Freesat+ PVR with version 1.00.03 for about 3 weeks now and have had no problems at all - except for 'The Wire' BBC2 which ended prematurely (+/- 2 minutes) on 4 of the past 6 episodes. Padding didn't help. Must presume this is the fault of BBC not Humax. Otherwise no failed recordings (series or otherwise). Have never been forced to apply re-booting / factory reset when moving to/from padding. Have had 2 input leads fitted since installation.

no proplem on mine on, except human errors on my partafter 6 months o2 update

http://www.hummy.org.uk/forums/showp...99&postcount=7

Graham, you seem to be on a crusade to demand that no one can have a box that recognises the addition of a second cable without a FR.

The post you link to proves nothing,

If jonesboy has had the experience of a box that recognises as second cable without FR then that's the experience he's had. No matter how many others have had a different experience.

Of course it could be that something induced his box to undergo a silent factory reset without it actually being explicitly requested. If it was some particular, unique, sequence of actions that the engineer who added the second cable went through it would explain why he had seen the effect before but no one else has reported it.

Thank you Tern for a common sense post. All I ask is that my word is not continually questioned or even rubbished. Why would I lie or make my experience up. I cannot explain them, I wish I could.

As stated, I am in the business,as part of a family Satellite installation company and I can assure everybody, I watched the screen like a hawk. I cannot explain why my PVR did not require a factory reset or an alteration in the secret menu. Both of which I am fully aware of. I even did all tests suggested here to prove the second cable was working correctly. Within our company, there is a wealth of technical knowledge I can call on. I would not make claims lightly.

There are other opinions apart from grahamlthompson 's and Hummy.org. Its about time people accepted others views, without continually disbelieving them. Forums are full of people who seem to be on crusades to belittle other posters. I for one get sick of it.

There is and never was any intention to doubt you, indeed it was my suggestion that may be v03 had addressed the problem of switching from 1 to 2 cables. If it had I amongst others would have been mightily pleased. All I am saying is that despite repeated attempts to reproduce this no else can. If even 1 person posts this has happened You shall have my humble apologies.

This should happen regardless.
One extra point, At no time did the Engineer have the remote control. It was in my hands at all times. I was as surprised as you are, when he said it would work correctly. Lets not forget he does this job frequently.

I don't care if nobody can reproduce what happened, It happened. End of!!! It may have been a one of. You know what technology is like. Unpredictable.I wish I could explain it but I cant. You have to trust me it worked.

One question for you?. How would you feel if the roles were reversed and it was you saying what I did and I doubted you in the way you have me. Not a nice thought is it.

Thats the whole point. Trusting another posters word. Nothing like a bit of humility I come onto these forums for help, and to give help and of course to discuss and share experiences.

Off to a barbecue now I will have a large sausage for you.

I have never said it did not work for you, but without any explanation as to why and how and no way to repeat it, it's got to be an unexplained mystery and remain a curiosity. What would you say to a poster asking if he/she needs to do anything to upgrade to 2 cables ?. May be the installer knows a trick to get it to recognise the extra cable if so it would be far more constructive to find out how and share the info. It was not I who asked if I could try and clarify the situation, just because the answers are not to your liking that's no reason to shoot the messenger. Rest assured if someone else pulls this off you will be amongst the first to know. Being an engineer the knowledge of why it happens is much more important than the fact it did.

Have sent you a PM. Enough is enough of this toing and froing. I will ask the installer next time I see him. He is working away for a while. The joys of the recession.

Thanks for that I (and many others) would love to know how this happened.

I had to do 2 factory resets on 1.03 firmware to get the box to see both LNB feeds.

Works fine now though.

Is that after an initial setup on 1 feed only, or your initial install from scratch with 2 feeds only recognised 1, and then took 2 resets to fix?

Rgds.


Les.

Initial set up 2 feeds only 1 recognised.

Not seen that one before. May be it's a new policy one cable per reset . If you did it again do you reckon it might find 3

Hi everyone - having just read this thread ... the same thing has happened to me as jonesboy .. I think

I installed the box initially with one cable and after a couple of days wired in a new additional cable which I then tested for dual recording etc which seemed to be working fine.

I didn't even dare go anywhere near resetting the box.. I had set up some series recordings etc plus I had noticed the problems of rescanning the non-freesat channels and the loss of data it could cause.

However, after reading the comments on this forum about the need to do a reset or the box wouldn't work properly - fear of a malfunction got the better of me so I decided to take the plunge and do the reset in case the box wasn't working as it should and to help avoid of risk of crashing

Guess what? After I did the reset I noticed zero difference.

It's fully possible I might have been wrong about this - I freely admit it was early days with the set- but I clearly remember being puzzled as to why it appeared to have been working ok WITHOUT doing a reset after adding a second cable!


Patrick

Very interesting, any chance of persuading you to see if it's repeatable - go back to 1 cable see if it notices, if not force the recognition back to single cable either by a reset or switching the connection mode in the secret menu. Now reconnect the second cable to see if it recognises it. Could you confirm if you have 1.00.02 or 1.00.03 firmware from the diagnostics menu

Graham

Can you remember how you tested this? You can record 2 channels at once with only single cable, depending on the channels.

Rgds.


Les.

I could try.

I can't see what else it could have been as I'm using Cablecon professional connectors and these are compressed to the cable with a special tool tight enough to withstand 2 bar of water pressure and screwed to the terminals using a spanner!!! - no loose connections here!

http://www.satellitesuperstore.com/s...orscompression

I remember testing dual channel recordings and for conflicts in recording when I set more than one or two recordings at the same time on the epg - I did try quite a few options.

I am sorry but I don't want to risk resetting my set again unless I absolutely have too - if the set crashes again which it hasn't done for weeks now, I will try though to repeat the situation.

I have version 1.0.0.2 firmware.

Perhaps I did the unexpected while flaffing around

Patrick

Well Graham, looks like I am not alone in what happens connecting the second cable. Apologies and cheques can be accepted. The mystery deepens. Or does it

It certainly deepens, the poster has v02 firmware which completely throws the v03 theory out of the window. By far the greatest number of hdrs out there have this which makes it a real mystery.