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Old 18-05-2009, 10:26
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Hi All,

How many transponders does freesat use? and how many channels are there per transponder?

e.g Freeview uses 6 x multiplexes with 10 to 15 channels on each.

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Old 18-05-2009, 10:29
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Hi All,

How many transponders does freesat use? and how many channels are there per transponder?
Freesat is just an EPG, so presumably only uses one transponder as such, which is on Eurobird 28.5E.

Freesat don't provide or transmit any programming at all, they are all nothing to do with Freesat.
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Old 18-05-2009, 11:05
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Hi All,

How many transponders does freesat use? and how many channels are there per transponder?

e.g Freeview uses 6 x multiplexes with 10 to 15 channels on each.

Thanks
You get all these FTA channels on freesat bodhani. You can see each transponder and it's corresponding amount of channels.

(Transponders in Cyan, Channels in Red)

Eurobird
http://en.kingofsat.net/freqs.php?&p...q&filtre=Clear

Astra
http://en.kingofsat.net/freqs.php?&p...q&filtre=Clear

Freesat EPG Listing
http://www.joinfreesat.co.uk/index.php/freesat-channels

Hope that helps.
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Old 18-05-2009, 11:20
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Hi All,

How many transponders does freesat use? and how many channels are there per transponder?

e.g Freeview uses 6 x multiplexes with 10 to 15 channels on each.

Thanks
As Nigel says freesat is just a epg. If you mean which transponders are used by the channels included in the epg.
Note you get all the BBC regions but only your local ITV region and London ITV

Code:
104 Channel 4	10714	H
125 More4 +1	10714	H
300 Film4	10714	H
301 Film4 +1	10714	H
974 Channel 4	10714	H
121 Channel 4 + 1	10729	V
122 E4	10729	V
123 E4 +1	10729	V
124 More4	10729	V
975 Channel 4 + 1	10729	V
968 BBC 2 England	10733	H
750 RTE Radio 1 	10743	H
751 RTE Radio 2fm 	10743	H
752 RTE Radio Lyric FM 	10743	H
753 RTE Raidio na Gaeltacta 	10743	H
103 ITV1	10758	V
113 ITV2	10758	V
117 ITV4	10758	V
450 Men and Motors	10758	V
602 CITV	10758	V
977 ITV 1 London (audio described)	10758	V
ITV 1  Central West	10758	V
ITV 1 Anglia North	10758	V
ITV 1 Granada	10758	V
ITV 1 London	10758	V
102 BBC Two	10773	H
105 Channel 5	10773	H
106 BBC Three	10773	H
107 BBC Four	10773	H
600 CBBC	10773	H
601 CBeebies	10773	H
950 BBC 1 London	10773	H
957 BBC 1 NI	10773	H
101 BBC One	10788	V
952 BBC 1 E Mids	10788	V
953 BBC 1 East (E)	10788	V
955 BBC 1 N West	10788	V
963 BBC 1 W Mids	10788	V
966 BBC 1 Yorks	10788	V
967 BBC 1 Eyrks*L	10788	V
705 BBC Radio 5 Live 	10802	H
706 BBC Radio 5 Live Sports Extra 	10802	H
960 BBC 1 Scotland	10802	H
964 BBC 1 Wales	10802	H
969 BBC 2 NI	10802	H
970 BBC 2 SCOTLAND	10802	H
971 BBC 2 W	10802	H
956 BBC 1 NE & C	10817	V
958 BBC 1 Oxford	10817	V
959 BBC 1 S East	10817	V
961 BBC 1 South	10817	V
962 BBC 1 S West	10817	V
965 BBC 1 West	10817	V
118 ITV4 + 1	10832	H
ITV 1 Border England	10832	H
ITV 1 Central East	10832	H
ITV 1 Thames Valley	10832	H
ITV 1 Wales	10832	H
ITV 1 West	10832	H
ITV 1 West Country South	10832	H
108 BBC HD	10847	V
951 BBC 1 CI	10847	V
954 BBC 1 East (W)	10847	V
114 ITV2 +1	10891	H
ITV 1 Anglia South	10891	H
ITV 1 Border Scotland	10891	H
ITV 1 Meridian South	10891	H
ITV 1 Tyne Tees North	10891	H
ITV 1 Yorkshire West	10891	H
115 ITV3	10906	V
116 ITV3 +1	10906	V
139 Zone Horror + 1	11222	H
514 Clubland	11222	H
786 BFBS Radio 	11222	H
806 TV Shop	11222	H
304 Movies4Men	11223	V
306 Movies4Men2	11223	V
803 Pitch TV	11223	V
804 Pitch World	11223	V
403 Rural TV	11259	V
451 Audi Channel	11259	V
852 Smart Live Casino	11259	V
138 Zone Horror	11261	H
811 Thane Direct	11261	H
809 JML	11307	H
140 Black Entertainment Television (BET)	11307	V
662 9X	11307	V
135 Zone Romantica	11343	V
308 Simply Movies	11343	V
400 Wedding TV	11344	H
724 Absolute Radio 	11390	V
725 Absolute Classic Rock 	11390	V
726 Absolute Radio Extreme 	11390	V
727 NME Radio 	11390	V
728 WRN 	11390	V
729 JazzFM	11390	V
777 Insight Radio 	11390	V
790 TWR Radio	11390	V
103 ITV HD (red button)	11426	H
208 Bloomberg TV	11426	V
519 9XM	11426	V
986 Teletext	11427	H
205 France 24	11488	V
807 Shop on TV	11546	H
861 Gala TV	11546	H
206 Russia Today	11623	H
302 True Movies	11642	V
303 True Movies 2	11642	V
500 Chart Show TV	11642	V
501 The Vault	11642	V
502 Scuzz	11642	V
603 POP	11642	V
604 POPGirl	11642	V
605 Tiny POP	11642	V
606 Kix!	11642	V
690 Inspiration TV	11661	H
851 Netplay TV	11661	H
203 Al Jazeera English	11680	V
110 BBC ALBA	11953	H
200 BBC News	11953	H
201 BBC Parliament	11953	H
700 BBC Radio 1 	11953	H
701 BBC Radio 1 Xtra 	11953	H
702 BBC Radio 2 	11953	H
703 BBC Radio 3 	11953	H
704 BBC Radio 4 FM	11953	H
707 BBC 6Music	11953	H
708 BBC Radio 7	11953	H
709 BBC Asian Network	11953	H
710 BBC Radio 4 LW	11953	H
711 BBC World Service 	11953	H
712 BBC Radio Scotland 	11953	H
713 BBC Radio nan Gaidheal (Gaelic) 	11953	H
714 BBC Radio Wales 	11953	H
715 BBC Radio Cymru (Welsh) 	11953	H
716 BBC Radio Ulster 	11953	H
816 Ideal World	12031	H
800 QVC	12032	H
801 price-drop tv	12032	H
802 bid tv	12032	H
120 S4C	12421	H
202 S4C2	12421	H
504 B4U Music	12421	H
402 Information TV	12523	H
691 DAYSTAR TV	12523	H
136 Zone Reality	12523	V
719 Capital 95.8 	12523	V
720 Choice FM 	12523	V
721 Classic FM 	12523	V
722 Gold 	12523	V
723 XFM London 	12523	V
730 Planet Rock 	12523	V
805 Gems TV1	12523	V
810 JML COOKSHOP	12523	V
137 Zone Thriller	12560	V
204 Euronews	12560	V
401 Wedding TV + 1	12560	V
813 Best Direct	12560	V
509 Zee Music	12606	V
650 Teachers TV	12643	V
141 BET + 1	12690	V
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Old 18-05-2009, 13:10
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And a final note - these are the same transponders and frequencies that are used on Sky.
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Old 18-05-2009, 13:55
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And a final note - these are the same transponders and frequencies that are used on Sky.
Channel 5 is different
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Old 18-05-2009, 13:58
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Whats the frequency for the Freesat EPG?
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Old 18-05-2009, 14:06
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Whats the frequency for the Freesat EPG?
Eurobird 1 11426 H

It shares the same transponder as ITV HD and Brit Shorts (fta SD channel)
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Old 18-05-2009, 14:27
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Eurobird 1 11426 H

It shares the same transponder as ITV HD and Brit Shorts (fta SD channel)
That's actually three rather good radio channels on there too (apparently used in health clubs)- GROOVE (funk, soul), HINRG LOWNRG (pop, rock), WELL CLASS (classical), all running at a high 256kb bitrate.
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Old 18-05-2009, 15:20
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That's actually three rather good radio channels on there too (apparently used in health clubs)- GROOVE (funk, soul), HINRG LOWNRG (pop, rock), WELL CLASS (classical), all running at a high 256kb bitrate.
I can get GROOVE ok but HiNRG LowNRG and WELL CLASS seem to have two audio tracks being transmitted at the same time

It's as if HiNRG is one channel and LowNRG is another and WELL is short for Well-being and CLASS classical
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Old 18-05-2009, 15:38
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I can get GROOVE ok but HiNRG LowNRG and WELL CLASS seem to have two audio tracks being transmitted at the same time


It's as if HiNRG is one channel and LowNRG is another and WELL is short for Well-being and CLASS classical
Hi GC

You got me curious, it's the same on mine
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Old 18-05-2009, 15:51
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It's as if HiNRG is one channel and LowNRG is another and WELL is short for Well-being and CLASS classical
Now you say that I think you are right. I have to admit I only listen to GROOVE! Is that a c*** up or is there some way to separate the audio?

EDIT: doh, it's one channel on the left and one on the right.
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Old 18-05-2009, 15:53
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Now you say that I think you are right. I have to admit I only listen to GROOVE! Is that a c*** up or is there some way to separate the audio?
I tried that in the vain hope there would be multiple audio tracks but at least on the hdr nothing seems to work. Very bizarre .
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Old 18-05-2009, 15:54
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I tried that in the vain hope there would be multiple audio tracks but at least on the hdr nothing seems to work. Very bizarre .
It's l-r separated see above...
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Old 18-05-2009, 15:55
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I've just tried it on my panny and it was just streaming one channel so I pressed the option button and it showed three audio choices they were mono 1 mono 2 and something else.

Anyhow I got back on the foxsat and pressed the speaker? button it only offered one choice then i twigged that if you press the > button it switches speaker selection .. Bingo

Edit: As jzee says but my typing is much slower
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Old 18-05-2009, 15:55
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Now you say that I think you are right. I have to admit I only listen to GROOVE! Is that a c*** up or is there some way to separate the audio?

EDIT: doh, it's one channel on the left and one on the right.
Well spotted - or is that well listened. 2 mono stations on a stereo carrier.
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Old 18-05-2009, 16:02
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I've just tried it on my panny and it was just streaming one channel so I pressed the option button and it showed three audio choices they were mono 1 mono 2 and something else.

Anyhow I got back on the foxsat and pressed the speaker? button it only offered one choice then i twigged that if you press the > button it switches speaker selection .. Bingo

Edit: As jzee says but my typing is much slower
Well blow me down you learn something new every day . What fooled me was I pushed the speaker button and got the action denied icon. Realise now it was because I still had the list on screen
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Old 18-05-2009, 16:02
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Well spotted - or is that well listened. 2 mono stations on a stereo carrier.
Still, 128k mono, better, at least on one channel than all UK DAB stations.
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Old 18-05-2009, 16:04
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It's l-r separated see above...

all running at a high 256kb bitrate.
So I guess its just two mono channels running at 128kb now then

Edit: Darn it must type quicker
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Old 18-05-2009, 16:14
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GROOVE is working on the same basis it's just transmitting the left hand mono and nothing coming from the right but with the humax defaulting to L/R it sounds not untoward
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Old 18-05-2009, 17:34
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GROOVE is working on the same basis it's just transmitting the left hand mono and nothing coming from the right but with the humax defaulting to L/R it sounds not untoward
What do you think the reason for them doing this is? Do you think they have the L and R speakers in different rooms? Is there a way of finding out exactly who runs the channels- are they listed on the ofcom site?
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Old 18-05-2009, 17:40
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Channel 5 is different
There are a few ITV1 regions and some of the Four family as well that are Sky specific.
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Old 18-05-2009, 17:45
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There are a few ITV1 regions and some of the Four family as well that are Sky specific.
True but you won't find any of those in the posted freesat list.
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Old 19-05-2009, 07:56
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There are a few ITV1 regions and some of the Four family as well that are Sky specific.
What for? Not trying to get at you of course but wouldn't both of those broadcasters be better off closing down one or the other and using the bandwidth to bolster the remaining?
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Old 19-05-2009, 14:22
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What for? Not trying to get at you of course but wouldn't both of those broadcasters be better off closing down one or the other and using the bandwidth to bolster the remaining?
As far as ITV is concerned the only reason they are encrypted is because there's no room on the narrow beam Astra 2D for them. They all have very small local news variations from the main provider transmitted from 2D and are likely to disappear anyway as ITV reduces the regional variations to save money. Similar problems currently stop the other PSB CH5 transmissions going fta. The BBC released space on 1 of their transponders on 2D to allow CH5 to transmit fta.

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