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Old 20-05-2009, 17:23
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Plagiarism,

Nice to know it’s alive a well in the music industry !!

Girls Aloud’s Life’s got Cold sounds a lot like Oasis’s Wonderwall in parts.

http://popdirt.com/new-girls-aloud-t...derwall/18132/


Lily Allen’s “Who’d Have Known “- sounds very similar to ..Take That’s “Shine” .

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XMTSsKhiBUA

James Blunt’s “ One Of The Brightest Stars” is so like one of The Bee Gees songs !! - I just can’t remember the title of it though - they have done so many !!
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Old 20-05-2009, 17:27
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that akon thing recently blatantly ripped off alice de jays 'better off alone'

everything coldplay have done sounds like someone elses work...
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Old 20-05-2009, 17:30
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that akon thing recently blatantly ripped off alice de jays 'better off alone'

everything coldplay have done sounds like someone elses work...
mmmm ... sorry - not sure I can agree with your thoughts on Coldplay.

I can't think of one single time they have sounded like any other song to be honest.
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Old 20-05-2009, 17:30
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Coldplay built their whole career on it.
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Old 20-05-2009, 17:36
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Coldplay built their whole career on it.
Prove it.
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Old 20-05-2009, 17:36
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I'm pretty sure Lily acknowledged Take That on that track, same goes for the Girls Aloud track.
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Old 20-05-2009, 17:41
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It isn't even recent.

Bach and Handel did it (in fact, two of Bach's major vocal works are borrowings), sometimes from themselves, and sometimes from others.

The bass/harmony progression in Bach's Air from Suite No.3 (commonly referred to as Air on the G String) is the same as in Procol Harum's A Whiter Shade of Pale.

I guess pieces of existing music inspire you anyway, nothing wrong with it. And of course bands cover other songs all the time.
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Old 20-05-2009, 17:42
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The guy below tries to prove similarties between Coldplay and Satriani - he has a point at about 3mins into the vid.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OEGGF...eature=related
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Old 20-05-2009, 17:46
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Well I'm not going to go though all their crap tracks but here they are openly discussing ripping off Kate Bush (very badly obviously)...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PDSJ22OX1wE
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Old 20-05-2009, 17:48
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I'm pretty sure Lily acknowledged Take That on that track, same goes for the Girls Aloud track.
Any links ?
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Old 20-05-2009, 17:49
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Plagiarism,
Lily Allen’s “Who’d Have Known “- sounds very similar to ..Take That’s “Shine” .

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XMTSsKhiBUA
Lily actually admitted that she ripped off the chorus of Shine and was not intending to put it on her album, but she got permission from Take That.

She actually credits them as well on the Album.
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Old 20-05-2009, 17:51
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Lily actually admitted that she ripped off the chorus of Shine and was not intending to put it on her album, but she got permission from Take That.

She actually credits them as well on the Album.
WTF !!! ROFL my goodness it's a bad day when you resort to ripping off Take That of al people.
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Old 20-05-2009, 17:51
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I read this somewhere

Someone told Brahms that the main melody from his 1st Symphony sounded like Beethoven's 9th. He replied, "Any fool can see that".
Even the greats steal from each other. "
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Old 20-05-2009, 17:54
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WTF !!! ROFL my goodness it's a bad day when you resort to ripping off Take That of al people.
To be fair, Shine is a pretty catchy tune and so when she was writing the song maybe the words just seemed to fit that tune and she liked it?

Well obviously they fit the tune.. but I can see how it happened.


Yep, classical musicians have been known to take snippets of their pieces from each other!
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Old 20-05-2009, 17:56
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They sing songs written by songwriters.

Songwriters who are banging out the same style, even same chords, strings, hooks, on different tracks daily.

Those songs can be picked up quickly, or sit around for ages.

Often people will WANT their song to sound like something else, the brief sent to songwriters and publishers will state. 'something like wonderwall', etc. i've actually seen 'sound like Shine, comeback like Take That' and worse on briefs.

Same as now everything goes electro, because its what people are buying, all the songwriters are now recycling the electro hooks and choruses etc.

Its all one big factory at the end of the day.
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Old 20-05-2009, 17:56
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I'm pretty sure most musicians are influenced by others at some point and it probably ends up being obvious in some of their songs, intentionally, or unintentionally. I don't really care if a band rips off a cool riff or whatever... it's what they do with it that matters. If they put it into a great original song and make it their own, no problem IMO.
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Old 20-05-2009, 18:16
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Songwriters who are banging out the same style, even same chords, strings, hooks, on different tracks daily.
It's the same three chords anyway, I, IV and V. The vast majority of "pop" etc is just different sequences of those chords with a tune ontop.
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Old 20-05-2009, 18:46
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I suppose it's hard enough to write a song in the first place - apart from trying to compose something new with the 7 or 8 notes available to them !!
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Old 20-05-2009, 18:53
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More than 8! An octave is 12, and you have more than one of them.
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Old 20-05-2009, 20:08
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I'm pretty sure most musicians are influenced by others at some point and it probably ends up being obvious in some of their songs, intentionally, or unintentionally. I don't really care if a band rips off a cool riff or whatever... it's what they do with it that matters. If they put it into a great original song and make it their own, no problem IMO.
Agreed.
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Old 20-05-2009, 20:38
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The new Lily Allen track reminds me of Amy MacDonald a hell of a lot.

I also think there was a track of the extended version of the first Embrace album that had the exact same riff as Oasis' Getting Better Man.
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Old 20-05-2009, 22:11
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Plagiarism,

Nice to know it’s alive a well in the music industry !!

Girls Aloud’s Life’s got Cold sounds a lot like Oasis’s Wonderwall in parts.

http://popdirt.com/new-girls-aloud-t...derwall/18132/


Lily Allen’s “Who’d Have Known “- sounds very similar to ..Take That’s “Shine” .

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XMTSsKhiBUA

James Blunt’s “ One Of The Brightest Stars” is so like one of The Bee Gees songs !! - I just can’t remember the title of it though - they have done so many !!

The Oasis / Girls Aloud one is old news. Then again, Oasis's Cigarettes And Alcohol sounds just like Get It On by T Rex, so yeah, plagiarism is alive and well .

In all their defences, I think it's actually getting harder and harder to create anything that sounds truely original. You can always find a sound alike. There's only a finite number of note sequences that work.
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Old 20-05-2009, 22:27
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Girls Aloud song "No Good Advice" reminds me of My Sharona by The Knack, especially at the start.
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Old 20-05-2009, 23:05
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I'm pretty sure most musicians are influenced by others at some point and it probably ends up being obvious in some of their songs, intentionally, or unintentionally. I don't really care if a band rips off a cool riff or whatever... it's what they do with it that matters. If they put it into a great original song and make it their own, no problem IMO.
Very good point, it's rumoured Michael Jackson wanted 'Beat It' to sound like 'My Sharona' hence the guitar riff.
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Old 21-05-2009, 10:40
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Anyone noticed Norway's Eurovision winner has a chord sequence nicked from Lyndsay de Paul's 'Sugar Me'? It also has a feel of 'Those were the Days'.
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