Not at all, their second product should have been low price/ quick sale, then they could have concentrated on selling the birthing pool which had a special price for the show.

Those 2% were probably at that show.

I wouldnt say shes evil..
but she is a divvy and her days are numbered.

I confess if that had happened, I'd have cussed out loud as she'd have got it right then.

You've summed that up very well for me, TBH.

That's exactly how I viewed her tonight.

However, like I replied to Sid in my earlier post, I really do think that Debra is 'proud' of all of this and was clearly engaging SA in making serious decisions on what sort of person he wants on his team.

The fact that he didn't fire her tonight.....and also the last time that he called her on her attitude, speaks volumes that SA actually likes her ruthlessness (even though he called her on it and she denied that she was). I felt that was more a case of paying lip service to the public than anything else.

SA knows that she's ruthless..................but he's never going to admit in a million years to us, the public, that he likes that about her.

That said, because of her non-public appeal, she'll never win The Apprentice.

I have to agree with the sentiment that it's almost as though SA likes her spirit, the ruthless streak and her willingness to almost 'take on' SA. I think he admires that for all he makes issue with it.

But James and Yasmina didn't exactly look rushed off their feet. So it wouldn't have mattered how many of the team were concentrating on the birthing pool, I doubt they'd have shifted many more.

Two mentions in one thread - I'm flattered JTW

Flattery 'sometimes' gets you somewhere, Sir

In between times they could have been selling the helmets or another cheap product that didn't take a great deal time.

A high priced item nearly always means more time with a customer.

If Yasmina and James had spent time on a rocking horse non sale they could have lost all their birthing pool sales.

I quite like Debra.

It's unfortunate that Nick and Margaret do not like her but I think she deserves more credit than she gets.

I like Debra, and I really don't see these qualities in her that those who dislike her see.

We get told, for instance, that she treats people like dirt, but I've never seen this. Take, for example, the incident with Nick in the boardroom when Sir Alan rebuked her very sharply. We 're told she was treating Nick like dirt, but in fact she seemed perfectly polite to me; certainly impassioned, but that's understandable as Nick was giving a blatantly wrong account to Sir Alan and crediting Ben with something she had done.

Certainly she has her faults, and she does have a tendency to ignore other peole's views. I think she should have been fired last week, and I honestly can't see her winning. But I just can't see her as this malign figure that some seem to want to paint her.

I'll remember that


I still think the buggy was the way to go

On the tasks themselves, she generally co-operates and gets along with everyone. She is a hard-worker, and actually quite a good team-player, but this doesn't seem to be recognised.

Not at the price they had it.

Hear hear!

I think the audience are desperate for a 'bitch' to follow in the footsteps of Katie Hopkins (who I actually didn't mind) and Jenny C (who was hideous). But if you think back, Debra's done very little to deserve that label.

I'm glad she stuck up for herself against Nick. She had every right to.

They seemed to do pretty well regardless.

I certainly don't see her as a Katie Hopkins or a Jenny C.

I really couldn't stand those two.

However, you are right about the public needing a villain......and she's fitting it right now.

Personally, I would trust Lorraine far less than I would Debra. To me, she's the one who would really stab you in the back whilst giving you that goofy innocent smile.

No Debra would stab you in the front

Lorraine's my favourite

I think she's pretty straightforward.

Well at least you would know what was coming at you

Nah....there's nothing straightforward about her at all.

She had a good team tonight with no hitches, thanks to Kate.

However, I did notice at one point in the task that she totally nudged Kate out of the way...................to say exactly what Kate had already explained to the client.

She showed her true colours to me that she had to show Kate that she was boss.

I seriously wouldn't trust Lorraine as far as I could throw her.

really?
i think James is the most straightforward one left ,,,and Yasmina.
but Kate is the best candidate,shes my favourite.

It wasn't all down to Kate.

The whole team of Howard, Lorraine, and Kate worked really well together, I thought. They seemed genuinely supportive of each other.

I agree, she picked the right products and seemed to motivate and lead her team very well. Some people will pick fault with anything

Yes I agree that it was a good team effort. However, I'm standing by my point in that it was Kate who managed to make it all gel together. She clearly is the glue that makes patchy relationships work together. Howard clearly in his whole body language isn't enamoured of Lorraine.......as are none of them really.