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Amanda & Sue Son's (ex) best friend
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Citizen Sputnik
26-05-2009
Was I the only one who thought it was disgusting the Amanda laid into Sue Son's best friend for being unhappy she auditioned alone?

The show engineered this rift, and now a judge is slagging off someone who is not there to defend herself. As has been discussed on other threads, her friend was clearly a pianist being forced to play a keyboard, she was perfectly entitled to feel aggrieved at her treatment on the show, and to kick her when she is down shows what a cheap and nasty show BGT really is.
BigGayL
26-05-2009
It was horrible to watch and I felt sorry for Sue Son too - getting dragged into it all over again. Whatever she said back would have been wrong.
Shadow2009
26-05-2009
I feel very bad for Sue's friend and Sue herself.

Her friend was given a keyboard when she was obviously prepared for a piano, then had to stand and watch as her best friend got praised and invited back for a second audition. Then, she is dissed on TV in front of millions of people by Simon and Amanda. However, perhaps if she stood by Sue and was loyal instead of ditching her then it wouldn't have been as bad.

And Sue? Pressured into a very difficult decision - staying with her friend and thus remaining a "nobody" or taking the spotlight and going solo. Her friend then ditched her, she was placed on early in the first semi-final with Susan Boyle, Diversity and Natalie also on the show, Simon said she wasn't likeable and then she had to stand and listen as Simon/Amanda dissed her ex-best friend.

Menk
26-05-2009
Originally Posted by Shadow2009:
“I feel very bad for Sue's friend and Sue herself.

Her friend was given a keyboard when she was obviously prepared for a piano, then had to stand and watch as her best friend got praised and invited back for a second audition. Then, she is dissed on TV in front of millions of people by Simon and Amanda. However, perhaps if she stood by Sue and was loyal instead of ditching her then it wouldn't have been as bad.

And Sue? Pressured into a very difficult decision - staying with her friend and thus remaining a "nobody" or taking the spotlight and going solo. Her friend then ditched her, she was placed on early in the first semi-final with Susan Boyle, Diversity and Natalie also on the show, Simon said she wasn't likeable and then she had to stand and listen as Simon/Amanda dissed her ex-best friend.

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I agree. The poor pianist was slagged off when she had no way to defend herself by people who were passing judgement on something they knew nothing about. If they had any interest in letting her through to the final (and let's make no mistake here - they fully manipulate the vote) they would not have put her against SB and Diversity. But to fully make sure, Simon hammered it home that she was 'not likeable'.
BigGayL
26-05-2009
Originally Posted by Menk:
“I agree. The poor pianist was slagged off when she had no way to defend herself by people who were passing judgement on something they knew nothing about. If they had any interest in letting her through to the final (and let's make no mistake here - they fully manipulate the vote) they would not have put her against SB and Diversity. But to fully make sure, Simon hammered it home that she was 'not likeable'.”

Agree with you 100%
Sammy2
26-05-2009
From what we saw she did appear to be a bad friend and I was really happy when Amanda criticised the friend, honest but true.
However I suppose we don't know the whole story so it's not fair to comment
rapier999
26-05-2009
Sue lost her friend and her heat. Hilarious!
soapgirlhere
26-05-2009
to be fair it wasn't just amanda, simon said her friend was rubbish. sue did not look amused.
KaliMist
26-05-2009
I agree with Amanda's comment, if the friend was a real friend then she would be happy for Sue, hopefully that gave her food for thought and will make her realise how silly it is to let that break up a friendship, Sue took a chance and anyone should be happy for their friend to do so. I thought Simon went too far though.
soapaddictDS
26-05-2009
Sorry, but i'm with Amanda on this one.
zx50
26-05-2009
To be honest, I think Britain's Got Talent is just about entertainment, purely. This means that they'll take no prisoners when critisizing things. I think true sincerity and sympathy are completely lacking in this show.
Aleksis
26-05-2009
Why are people singling out Amanda? IIRC, all three of the judges had a go about the best friend in one way or another. I don't even think Amanda was he one who started it.
bluebitchboy
26-05-2009
am i the only one who sympathises with the friend??? I felt really sorry for her, and i think friendship is more important than anything - i wouldnt have ditched a friend.
rick182
26-05-2009
she was amazing. but her shyness let her down
Shadow2009
26-05-2009
Originally Posted by bluebitchboy:
“am i the only one who sympathises with the friend??? I felt really sorry for her, and i think friendship is more important than anything - i wouldnt have ditched a friend.”

To be fair to Sue, she was given a chance of a lifetime so why shouldn't she have accepted the offer? Sue shouldn't miss out on an experience because of her friend, and anyway, her friend should have been supportive and understanding.
Dakota.
26-05-2009
Originally Posted by bluebitchboy:
“am i the only one who sympathises with the friend??? I felt really sorry for her, and i think friendship is more important than anything - i wouldnt have ditched a friend.”

A true friend would celebrate their best friends success, no matter what.
Scarlet O'Hara
26-05-2009
Originally Posted by KaliMist:
“I agree with Amanda's comment, if the friend was a real friend then she would be happy for Sue, hopefully that gave her food for thought and will make her realise how silly it is to let that break up a friendship, Sue took a chance and anyone should be happy for their friend to do so. I thought Simon went too far though.”

I totally disagree. That's simply not human nature.

I'd bet my ass that most of us stood on the side of that stage, after all that rehearsal and feeling the bitter sting of rejection, even humiliation, would have REALLY struggled to be gracious. To watch your best friend and colleague stood weakly on the stage, not saying a word in your defence, not asking if she could discuss it first, not protesting with a "oh come on, this isn't fair"... I'd be TOTALLY ****ed off with my mate.

But here's the thing... none of us know the details of how the friend reacted after. Whose word have we got for all this? The press? Sue Son? I mean come on.

The real villains of this piece are the people from BGT who engineered a horrible falling out for the sake of TV drama. And those judges should be ashamed of themselves for exploiting Sue and her friend, not once but twice on national television.

For Sue, it's a bit like selling your soul to the devil. She paid a high price this week, discovering how out of depth she was in that gladiatorial arena in front of the Roman emperor/ess.
Stardog
26-05-2009
Originally Posted by KaliMist:
“I agree with Amanda's comment, if the friend was a real friend then she would be happy for Sue, hopefully that gave her food for thought and will make her realise how silly it is to let that break up a friendship, Sue took a chance and anyone should be happy for their friend to do so. I thought Simon went too far though.”

Typical backwards Britain.

There's a reason for the saying "bros before hoes" and it applies here too.

Anyone with any kind of basic principles wouldn't have f'd over their friend for a talent show they were never going to win.
mediafriendly
26-05-2009
Originally Posted by Scarlet O'Hara:
“The real villains of this piece are the people from BGT who engineered a horrible falling out for the sake of TV drama. And those judges should be ashamed of themselves for exploiting Sue and her friend, not once but twice on national television.
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Exactly. I have submitted a comment to the Sue Son fansite (stop it, there is one) suggesting that she apologise to her friend and put the experience behind her. Strangely, my comment doesn't seem to have made it past the moderator yet.....
wendy09
26-05-2009
lets face it the judges direct the vote with their comments , and the telly company decides what aspect of a persons ability or lack of it they want to show.

so in reality we dont know how bad or how good some of the people are .. we get told who is good or bad.

as for sue, she did what everyone does when their hungry .. they go for the crumbs in the hope of finding cake.
rated_2000
26-05-2009
her friend seemed like a very good musician, just messed up the audition!
mediafriendly
26-05-2009
I'd like to see more of Sue Son.

And I don't only mean that in a leery Simon Cowell sort of way.
Vivacious Lady
26-05-2009
I found all of the comments from the judges unpleasant and uncomfortable.

I think people often expect standards of behaviour that they themselves wouldn't be able to maintain. In theory Sue Son's friend should have celebrated her friend's success, but in practice there are probably not that many people who would be able to show that generosity of spirit. I suspect that the vast majority of people would feel betrayed, and so the reaction of Sue Son's friend was not a surprise and it was unfair to direct such scathing criticism at her.
calculator
26-05-2009
Amanda was out of order. Personal remarks like that should be spoken away from the cameras.

Totally unprofessional.
Citizen Sputnik
26-05-2009
Originally Posted by Aleksis:
“Why are people singling out Amanda? IIRC, all three of the judges had a go about the best friend in one way or another. I don't even think Amanda was he one who started it.”

That's absolutely true, but Amanda was the one who REALLY put the knife into Sue's friend. Given that Simon has already claimed that the show is meant to consist of "family entertainment", I don't think such blatant bullying and nastiness is consistent with family entertainment*

*of course, we all know Simon couldn't give a flying toss about true family entertainment, but that's not the point!
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