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Start recording whilst you're playing back
carvell
26-05-2009
Has anyone seen any problems with this?

Twice in the last couple of days I've been watching a recording with another recording due to start, I then finish watching the recording to discover that the recording never started.

I *think* that I set the program up to record within the 15 minutes before it started, so perhaps the HDR can't cope then.

To reproduce, assuming a program is due to start at 15:00:
Go into guide at 14:50 and set up the program to record.
Start watching a recording that goes on until 15:15 (for example).
Stop the playback, the scheduled program won't have started to record.

It might even happen if you set up a recording outside of the 15 minutes also.
grahamlthompson
27-05-2009
Originally Posted by carvell:
“Has anyone seen any problems with this?

Twice in the last couple of days I've been watching a recording with another recording due to start, I then finish watching the recording to discover that the recording never started.

I *think* that I set the program up to record within the 15 minutes before it started, so perhaps the HDR can't cope then.

To reproduce, assuming a program is due to start at 15:00:
Go into guide at 14:50 and set up the program to record.
Start watching a recording that goes on until 15:15 (for example).
Stop the playback, the scheduled program won't have started to record.

It might even happen if you set up a recording outside of the 15 minutes also.”

Set 2 recordings one due in 10min the other in 20min and started a previous recording playback. The 10 min one failed to record leaving the entry in the recording schedule, the 20 min worked fine. A similar bug to going into non-freesat mode less than 15min before a recording is due, this fails in a similar manner
davidredge
27-05-2009
does this affect any series linked recordings? If you start to watch a recording, just before a series linked schedule as about to start, what happens?
Tern
27-05-2009
I do this frequently and have never had a problem.

Last night, for example, I turned on the box at 7:50, selected 'Landscape Mysteries' to record and started watching a recording. When the recording finished I watched 'Landscape Mysteries'.

The reason I know I do this often is that if I have to turn on the box to set a recording I tend to leave it until 5-20 mins before the programme I want to watch starts and then go and set the evenings recordings before starting to watch from the 'stash'.

If this bug was commonplace it would have been disasterous for me over the last 6 months. (Obviously I'd have had to change my operating habits).

I find it odd that no one has mentioned this before (have thay?) if it's a common bug.
carvell
27-05-2009
Bizarre.

Can you try it with setting two recordings like graham, Tern? Maybe my other tuner was busy without me knowing.
GaseousClay
27-05-2009
I've just tried this I set a recording with just 5 mins prior and started to watch a previous recording and it worked fine. However when I selected the new recording from the epg I allowed the epg to fully repopulate before pressing the exit button could this have a bearing? I'm gonna try again without allowing the repopulation to complete but I suspect it won't make a difference as it's uptodate already now.
grahamlthompson
27-05-2009
Originally Posted by Tern:
“I do this frequently and have never had a problem.

Last night, for example, I turned on the box at 7:50, selected 'Landscape Mysteries' to record and started watching a recording. When the recording finished I watched 'Landscape Mysteries'.

The reason I know I do this often is that if I have to turn on the box to set a recording I tend to leave it until 5-20 mins before the programme I want to watch starts and then go and set the evenings recordings before starting to watch from the 'stash'.

If this bug was commonplace it would have been disasterous for me over the last 6 months. (Obviously I'd have had to change my operating habits).

I find it odd that no one has mentioned this before (have thay?) if it's a common bug.”

Trying it again this time only 1 set recording in 10 mins time (12:30), replaying the Brothers Grimm. Watch this space for the next gripping report - Could this be a firmware thing I am on 1.00.02

The single recording worked fine, how bizarre. Will try 2 again.
GaseousClay
27-05-2009
Originally Posted by GaseousClay:
“I've just tried this I set a recording with just 5 mins prior and started to watch a previous recording and it worked fine. However when I selected the new recording from the epg I allowed the epg to fully repopulate before pressing the exit button could this have a bearing? I'm gonna try again without allowing the repopulation to complete but I suspect it won't make a difference as it's uptodate already now.”

There you go thats the problem just tried using the schedule button>red button route... recording failed. if you go into the schedule to check the reservation and press the info button it shows there is no prog or series crid data
carvell
27-05-2009
Ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh...

I was almost certainly using the schedule-red route to get to the Guide, I tend to use it all the time.

I shall press guide and wait for it to populate from now on then!
grahamlthompson
27-05-2009
I set all recordings from a new copy of the guide. Now convinced it's a problem associated with having 2 recordings scheduled or one actually recording.

This time started an instant recording on 108, set an epg one to start rec in 7min. Started playback. Scheduled recording failed (could it be due to tuner 1 being used and tuner 2 can't access the epg)
carvell
27-05-2009
It's just happened again!

I have "Great British Menu" (18:00) on series link and have been watching a recording back since 17:40 odd. Not using any tuners recording anything else.

It occured to me just now to check that Great British Menu had started recording.....it hadn't.
grahamlthompson
27-05-2009
Originally Posted by carvell:
“It's just happened again!

I have "Great British Menu" (18:00) on series link and have been watching a recording back since 17:40 odd. Not using any tuners recording anything else.

It occured to me just now to check that Great British Menu had started recording.....it hadn't.”

Are you sure it's anything to do with watching a recording, more likely a screw up with the crid codes
carvell
27-05-2009
Yeah, 'cos when I stop what I'm playing back, the foxsat realises it should be recording and about a minute later it starts recording.
grahamlthompson
27-05-2009
Originally Posted by carvell:
“Yeah, 'cos when I stop what I'm playing back, the foxsat realises it should be recording and about a minute later it starts recording.”

Strange - sounds like time to try a factory reset.
carvell
27-05-2009
Could be because I have a Sky box hooked up to the LNB1 out perhaps. AFAIK the Sky box keeps the voltage (to power the LNB) alive on the cable, so maybe the HDR thinks the tuner is in use.

I'll try taking the Sky box off.
Tern
28-05-2009
I had four recordings scheduled last night, all back to back and each on a different channel. I started watching a previous recording about 10 minutes before the first new recording was about to start and watched recordings continuously until after the last scheduled recording had finished.

Everything worked as expected.

I'm sure there must be something else causing these problems as if it was something as basic as watching a recording when a new recording started we'd have been innundated with problem reports.
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