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ForestChav
27-05-2009
Originally Posted by grimtales1:
“I had to try and sing with a mic when I sang in a recent talent show and didn't really like it. It was only the 2nd time I used that thing and wasn't used to it AT ALL.”

I've never done it, must make it hellishly tricky to turn pages unless you use a music stand.
ianfreeman
27-05-2009
Originally Posted by Michael a:
“What a ridiculous statement to make. Singing is what singers do, you daft bugger. Those who can't sing appear half naked, gyrating with a microphone stuffed in their chops. Squawking in some language that doesn't include consonants. Classical singers just sing; why? Because they can. They don't need the gimmicks. Only the musically illiterate like you need them. "She's very, very ordinary"? I suggest you get a reasonable musical education before you comment on the musical talent of others.”

Have you ever seen Katherine Jenkins perform? Or Russell Watson? Did you see Pavarotti in his heyday? Or Maria Callas?

Those, young man, are great singers and, at the same time, talented perfomers. This little girl will hopefully, one day, emulate them. But not just yet...
petertard
27-05-2009
Faryl is pretty good, but she is not the finished article yet (she is still very young); it seems the potential is there.
ianfreeman
27-05-2009
Originally Posted by petertard:
“Faryl is pretty good, but she is not the finished article yet (she is still very young); it seems the potential is there.”

Totally agree.
The Bloater
27-05-2009
To be fair, the lad Farryl's got a bad case of bum fluff
rapier999
27-05-2009
Originally Posted by The Bloater:
“To be fair, the lad Farryl's got a bad case of bum fluff”

Go away :yawn:
ForestChav
28-05-2009
Originally Posted by ianfreeman:
“Have you ever seen Katherine Jenkins perform? Or Russell Watson? Did you see Pavarotti in his heyday? Or Maria Callas?

Those, young man, are great singers and, at the same time, talented perfomers. This little girl will hopefully, one day, emulate them. But not just yet...”

You can have Pavarotti but I would seriously question the rest of your list!

Russell Watson and Katherine Jenkins are Faryl types who are destined for a career in crossover. Callas was nothing more than an actress with an average voice. Basically Natalie Dessay (who is primarily an actress) without the excellent voice.

Great singers: Emma Kirkby, Carolyn Sampson, Placido Domingo, Natalie Dessay, Dietrich Fischer-Dieskau, John-Mark Ainsley, James Bowman, Daniel Taylor, Robin Blaze, Magdalena Kozena... I've tried to keep off obscure classical singers, but I could go on all day, and I promised not to reel off a list of this earlier... :s

I'm expecting a "who the **** are they" now.
rapier999
28-05-2009
Originally Posted by ForestChav:
“You can have Pavarotti but I would seriously question the rest of your list!

Russell Watson and Katherine Jenkins are Faryl types who are destined for a career in crossover. Callas was nothing more than an actress with an average voice. Basically Natalie Dessay (who is primarily an actress) without the excellent voice.

Great singers: Emma Kirkby, Carolyn Sampson, Placido Domingo, Natalie Dessay, Dietrich Fischer-Dieskau, John-Mark Ainsley, James Bowman, Daniel Taylor, Robin Blaze, Magdalena Kozena... I've tried to keep off obscure classical singers, but I could go on all day, and I promised not to reel off a list of this earlier... :s

I'm expecting a "who the **** are they" now.”

Who the **** are they? I would hate to disapoint you
SULLA
28-05-2009
Originally Posted by rapier999:
“Beautiful performance.”

Yes it was but the last few time I have sen her on TV she has sung ' Amazing grace' I want to hear something different.
ForestChav
28-05-2009
Originally Posted by rapier999:
“Who the **** are they? I would hate to disapoint you ”

google is your friend, but I guess you're trolling so you can have a rose.

@-'-,-
C14E
28-05-2009
Originally Posted by SULLA:
“Yes it was but the last few time I have sen her on TV she has sung ' Amazing grace' I want to hear something different.”

It's not the best song in the world, IMO but everyone keeps singing it! I seem to remember Il Divo boring the sh*t out of everyone with that song on X Factor last year.
grimtales1
28-05-2009
Surprised Maria Callas is "questioned" with Russel Watson/Katherine Jenkins.
ianfreeman
28-05-2009
Originally Posted by grimtales1:
“Surprised Maria Callas is "questioned" with Russel Watson/Katherine Jenkins.”

The point I was trying to make was that these people - like them or not - are/were true entertainers, not just superb singers. They haven't 'sold out', just 'gone plural' (bleagh@thatphrase) to ensure they constantly move forward.

If you're a fan of obscure opera singers like ForestChav is, that's absolutely fine, of course. But some people choose to grow their career outside of their main skill and I admire them for it.

Edward G. Robinson was a song-and-dance man before he became a consummate actor. On a different level, admittedly, Des O'Connor was a comedian, then a singer, then a talk-show host and Madonna has re-invented herself several times. Graham Norton - actor, stand-up, compere...

OK, comparisons can be odious but this is just to re-iterate my point. The blind adoration of this child's singing skills shown by some people here can't cover up the fact that she still has a very long way to go before she can compete on the bigger stage. And that is the way it should be - let her enjoy her youth while she has it.

Good luck to her - I hope she achieves, and I hope I'm still alive to see it!
Michael a
28-05-2009
Originally Posted by ianfreeman:
“Have you ever seen Katherine Jenkins perform? Or Russell Watson? Did you see Pavarotti in his heyday? Or Maria Callas?

Those, young man, are great singers and, at the same time, talented perfomers. This little girl will hopefully, one day, emulate them. But not just yet...”

This young man happens to be 73 years old, young man. He also happens to be an AGSM so I am well familiar with the singers you mention and a good many more besides, so i suggest that you desist from trying to tell granny how to suck eggs. I am well aware of the fact that Faryl is a child; I am also aware that she is not the finished article and have said so a number of times in various forums. To compare her with adult conservatoir trained singers at the heights of their powers is just plain ridiculous. These people did not emerge from the womb with magnificent voices. They, like the rest of us, were born with an instrument which they, unlike the majority of us, chose to spend years of training to tune it to near perfection. It is far from easy. it takes dedication, hard work and a burning desire to sing and to sing well the most demanding repertoire of classical works. Faryl is serving the artistic version of an apprenticeship. She is being taught by a very competent professional teacher, and has done so since the age of seven. She is also fortunate enough to be able to gain valuable experience by appearing on major concert platforms in this country. In an interview at the Classical Brits Awards she said, and I paraphrase, "I am still a nobody and to watch these singing legends at rehearsal I learn so much, and they tell me things". This girl has the raw talent to go anywhere her heart desires in the music world. She has already come far by sheer hard work, and she knows that she still has along way to go; it ill behoves anyone to dismiss her lightly as "boring" "very, very ordinary" and "nothing special".
ForestChav
28-05-2009
Originally Posted by Michael a:
“This young man happens to be 73 years old, young man. He also happens to be an AGSM so I am well familiar with the singers you mention and a good many more besides, so i suggest that you desist from trying to tell granny how to suck eggs. I am well aware of the fact that Faryl is a child; I am also aware that she is not the finished article and have said so a number of times in various forums. To compare her with adult conservatoir trained singers at the heights of their powers is just plain ridiculous. These people did not emerge from the womb with magnificent voices. They, like the rest of us, were born with an instrument which they, unlike the majority of us, chose to spend years of training to tune it to near perfection. It is far from easy. it takes dedication, hard work and a burning desire to sing and to sing well the most demanding repertoire of classical works. Faryl is serving the artistic version of an apprenticeship. She is being taught by a very competent professional teacher, and has done so since the age of seven. She is also fortunate enough to be able to gain valuable experience by appearing on major concert platforms in this country. In an interview at the Classical Brits Awards she said, and I paraphrase, "I am still a nobody and to watch these singing legends at rehearsal I learn so much, and they tell me things". This girl has the raw talent to go anywhere her heart desires in the music world. She has already come far by sheer hard work, and she knows that she still has along way to go; it ill behoves anyone to dismiss her lightly as "boring" "very, very ordinary" and "nothing special".”

Indeed, she is young and has a lot to learn but she will get a lot better with experience.
Originally Posted by ianfreeman:
“The point I was trying to make was that these people - like them or not - are/were true entertainers, not just superb singers. They haven't 'sold out', just 'gone plural' (bleagh@thatphrase) to ensure they constantly move forward.

If you're a fan of obscure opera singers like ForestChav is, that's absolutely fine, of course. But some people choose to grow their career outside of their main skill and I admire them for it.

Edward G. Robinson was a song-and-dance man before he became a consummate actor. On a different level, admittedly, Des O'Connor was a comedian, then a singer, then a talk-show host and Madonna has re-invented herself several times. Graham Norton - actor, stand-up, compere...

OK, comparisons can be odious but this is just to re-iterate my point. The blind adoration of this child's singing skills shown by some people here can't cover up the fact that she still has a very long way to go before she can compete on the bigger stage. And that is the way it should be - let her enjoy her youth while she has it.

Good luck to her - I hope she achieves, and I hope I'm still alive to see it!”

Not all of them are opera singers, in fact, some of them never have sung opera.
moila
29-05-2009
Apart from her teeth i think she is a absolutetly adorable and very pretty girl!
stevosowl
29-05-2009
Originally Posted by moila:
“Apart from her teeth i think she is a absolutetly adorable and very pretty girl!”

and the moustache

surely someone should tell her?
Michael a
29-05-2009
Originally Posted by moila:
“Apart from her teeth i think she is a absolutetly adorable and very pretty girl!”

Please! Please! No more mention of her teeth. There is nothing wrong with her teeth. It is her voice that is important. In my young days, before television came along. We listened to singers on the radio and on records. We had no idea what they looked like. We were just treated to wonderful music created by wonderful singers. Since the advent of TV it's all about image. People don't listen properly any more; they are too occupied with examining the image. If you go looking for blemishes on others then you are certain to find them. But you will find many more in your own mirror.
ForestChav
29-05-2009
Originally Posted by Michael a:
“Please! Please! No more mention of her teeth. There is nothing wrong with her teeth. It is her voice that is important. In my young days, before television came along. We listened to singers on the radio and on records. We had no idea what they looked like. We were just treated to wonderful music created by wonderful singers. Since the advent of TV it's all about image. People don't listen properly any more; they are to occupied with examining the image. If you go looking for blemishes on others then you are certain to find them. But you will find many more in your own mirror. ”

I agree! (Can you think of any female classical singers who are good singers as well as good looking?)
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