Simon doesn't get the point of this show

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Alrightmate

26-05-2009

I agree.
It's just about singing and dancing, not variety.

Most of them who aren't singers or dancers are just patronised and mocked, or are the one-off occasional token act who are just there to make up the numbers and aren't championed by the judges.

I'd love it if a true variety act appeared and was excellent at what they did.
But this show won't do that because despite what Simon claims, this show doesn't support variety.

Can you imagine Simon singing the praises of a decent comedian and all the PR and media hype being surrounded around that comedian?
No?
It's actually quite hard to imagine isn't it?

*Laura*

26-05-2009

Originally Posted by davedub:
“Have to say, simon actually annoyed me tonight”

Me as well. You knew that everytime a buzzer went during an act it was going to be him.

Originally Posted by aj_2000:
“Simon talks more sense than the other two.”

Normally I would agree with you but, tonight and last night he was exceptionally rude to acts that HE agreed to put through. Whether we like it or not it's his show, and if he didn't want them on then he has the power to stop them. It's all right going on about how bad some of the acts are but, he's only himself to blame. It's laughable how he's now throwing his toys out of the pram over some of the performances.

ForestChav

26-05-2009

Originally Posted by Glorfindel:
“This has just reminded me of the funniest part of the evening: Did anyone else see Simon sitting stony-faced whilst everyone else was cheering wildly at Faryl's performance?”

Probably because:

1. he is still peed off at her rejecting his deal and signing with a competitor
2. it was so bloody boring anyway, a hopeless dirge of a song and a performance to match. She sings every note the fcking same.

WillowFae

26-05-2009

Originally Posted by Citizen Sputnik:
“Nope, they also get a contract to do a season in Las Vegas.

I do wish BGT would drop the RVP crap though, absolutely NOBODY cares about the RVP any more, and when a contestant talks about how they have "always dreamed of being on the RVP", it doesn't ring remotely true.

Nobody seriously believes BGT is about finding an act that the Queen would enjoy.”

Okay, my bad

But the point still stands: RVP is NOT the point of the show.

Shadowmaiden

26-05-2009

Will Connie Talbot be appearing on the shows at all?

kleinzach

27-05-2009

Originally Posted by bubbsy:
“But it's ONE MILLION DOLLARS cash prize.”

AGT is back on soon at the end of the show watch out for the disclaimer at the end. It is $1million but it is paid as a trust fund over 25 years......they don't get the lump sum upfront

C14E

27-05-2009

Originally Posted by Shadowmaiden:
“Yeah to line his own pockets”

Well, yes (that and success). What else would he be doing it for?! Our entertainment?

Originally Posted by ForestChav:
“Interesting Faryl has signed for Warner Classics, who dump decent musicians and then reissue all their tapes at knockdown prices, and not Syco... Hmm tough one Warner... Ton Koopman or Faryl Smith... oh yeah, ditch the real musician who knows how to interpret and sign the poster girl off national TV who sings all the notes the same.”

I thought she was with Universal?

ForestChav

27-05-2009

Originally Posted by C14E:
“I thought she was with Universal?”

She is, but they are both as bad as each other for dumping decent musicians in favour of tacky crossover.

kaycee

27-05-2009

Originally Posted by franster:
“I 100% agree. I would say the only variety act who deserved to go through was Gareth, and even then he had no shot of winning anyway. I think before it being about variety, it has to be about talent.

Faryl has done pretty well though in her genre.”

I absolutely agree.

Talbert

27-05-2009

NO

I think you don't get the point of the show

The Show is designed to generate Mr Cowell even more money.....

Any show that has Simon Cowell involved will clearly exploit the participants...

Weren't a couple of members of an xfactor tour complained they were paid next to nothing?

Ambassador

27-05-2009

Originally Posted by Citizen Sputnik:
“Nope, they also get a contract to do a season in Las Vegas.

I do wish BGT would drop the RVP crap though, absolutely NOBODY cares about the RVP any more, and when a contestant talks about how they have "always dreamed of being on the RVP", it doesn't ring remotely true.

Nobody seriously believes BGT is about finding an act that the Queen would enjoy.”

They didn't all get that prize though did they? Sure the series 1 winner didn't and Neal Boyd only did a few week iirc

It can work in favour of the contestants at times, you only have to look at Terry Fator with his $200m deal at the Las Vegas Hilton

I'm sure Simon very much gets the point, the point is for ITV to keep his contract running for him to continue his blaze of publicity and general reality stranglehold and for everyone to love him and his millions

Servalan

27-05-2009

Originally Posted by UserXYZ:
“He's clearly only interested in making as much money as possible off any of the acts that win but the whole point of the show is to find something the Queen would enjoy. The cogs in Simon's brain however are clearly only calculating possible first week album sale profits.”

Er - no. The whole point is for Simon to find a vehicle to help him make as much money as possible.

The Royal Variety is just a smokescreen.

Comedians and variety acts won't earn Simon money. Even the likes of Flawless and Diversity won't. What he wants is SuBo or Shaheen, who he can secure lucrative deals for.

Just another chapter in Simon's Got Millions ...

Score

27-05-2009

Originally Posted by C14E:
“I think there's little doubt he'd like an act that could potentially sell lots of records. It's obvious that he wants money and success. He's not doing this show just to entertain us! However, Shaheen/Hollie/Shaun won't sell lots of records and there are more important things than the potential albums.

He's produced 5 series of these shows. He has signed 2 singing winners. He didn't sign the Paul Potts-a-like winner of America's Got Talent 3, George Sampson won't be lighting up the Syco income statement by any means, Bianca Ryan bombed and he didn't sign Terry Fator from AGT2 (though he's probably made more money from him than the others!).

The ratings and international format sales of this show are worth so much more than 150,000-200,000 album sales.

On the positive side, he doesn't seem at all impressed by this series. Hopefully that'll lead to a push to improve the standard next year.”

This sums it up perfectly. The show is now worth far more than anything he can get from it, unlike TXF, where he's constantly on the lookout for someone he can make millions from.

I disagree with your last point though, here's a quote from Piers' blog:

Quote:
“Even Simon is slightly shocked by how successful this series has been.

‘It’s incredible!’ he said after last night’s show finished. ‘It's like the whole world is watching. This is the show I love doing most of all.’”

I think Simon's fine with the show, as the quality is better than in the first series (although not as good as last year).

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