Originally Posted by aaronon:
“It's not an iPod though. . .it's more akin to an iPod touch. It'll have the same memory and screen, and price so you can't just compare it to a standard MP3 playing iPod.”
Originally Posted by jammers:
“Windows CE is possibly the worst piece of software MS have ever written trying to do everything for everyone and not excelling at anything. If the Zune team have spent little time working out Windows CE for it then it will fail horribly - a Windows Phone without the phone or apps.
You miss the point that this is designed to compete with the iPod Touch yet it misses most of the features.”
Originally Posted by TheSoulBrother:
“It's called the iPod Classic for a reason (see Mac Classic). And Touch sales far exceed it. It's only purpose is to satisfy the people who cannot live on 32GB.
Apps are now crucial IMO.
That said, as a pure PMP the Zune HD is a nice device. It's just that the market has moved on from pure PMPs. People are now coming to the idea that these devices (as well as their mobiles) are fully fledged computers.”
but is the iPod Touch marketed as a portable media player?
is it even built as one?
strangely enough, it dosnt say on the Apple site, seems even they might not know what it is.
wikipedia however:
'The iPod Touch is a portable media player, personal digital assistant'
'The iPod Touch and the iPhone, a smartphone by Apple, share the same hardware platform and are controlled by the same iPhone OS operating system'
'Steve Jobs once referred to the iPod Touch as "training wheels for the iPhone".'
whereas for the Zune:
'Zune is the product-line brand name for the Zune portable media players, Zune software, and Zune Marketplace services sold by Microsoft, which provide online music, video, and podcast downloads'
conclusion:
iPod Touch is 2 items merged into one, a media player & a pda
Zune is a media player, ie 1 item
so the Zune should be compared with other media players, like the ones made by Sansa, Creative etc
Windows CE - trying to do everything for everyone
er, its an operating system, thats what its meant to do.
its an embedded os, used on all sorts of different systems, & developers use it so that they dont have to keep writing code to handle basic functions like memory management.
Windows Mobile, windows phone, is not Windows CE, it runs on top of Windows CE.
the Zune is not designed to be a windows phone.
how can something be designed to compete with another product, when theyre in 2 different markets?
thats like saying a car is designed to compete with a van.
Apps are now crucial for what though?
the top 10 free apps on the app store:
8 of them are games/entertainment
theres then a Sky News feed reader, & a theory test app that isnt even the full thing
on the paid side, its 9 of them that are games/entertainment
only 3 of them are > £1
if people are coming to the idea that pmp's & phones are 'fully fledged computers'
how come netbooks have sold so well, as well as laptops selling so well in the past few years?
the Zune is a media player
it may do more over time, but as at the moment,it is only a media player.
it happens to have a better screen & decent memory compared to those available at the moment, but its not even out yet.