I've always been a fan of him and liked his honesty but this series he really has shown his true colours. Downright rude to that young dancer and also the flower/opera couple who actually were extremely good. I think Piers has more class and tact than Simon and is proving to be the better judge.
Simon just lacks class.
Originally Posted by pensioners rule:
“Simon's ALWAYS been like this, this series has been no different!
Love him
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“Simon's ALWAYS been like this, this series has been no different!
Love him
”
I like him because he tells the truth rather than licking everybody's bottoms, as the others tend to do - but he is a bit brutal sometimes! I felt sorry for the ballroom dancing brother & sister, the poor girl was devastated - and Piers made her laugh and feel better, which I thought was gentlemanly of him. I liked him for that.
I think she ruined it. That kind of tone would be perfect for singing Aida but not Rule Britannia, written by an 18th century composer (Thomas Arne) contemporary with Handel (in fact, Susannah Cibber who sung alto in the first performance of Messiah was his sister) - if she indeed has studied singing to the extent she claims she has she would know that you do not interpret that repertoire with that thick a vibrato, for example.
Not that RB is especially difficult to ruin, but then, if she wants to sing like an opera singer maybe she should sing something from an Italian Romantic opera not a Baroque masque
Not much wrong with her technique, though, but I still fail to see the point of the flower arranging as well. Maybe the issue is that they just didn't have the time to show the act properly, like they said.
Not that RB is especially difficult to ruin, but then, if she wants to sing like an opera singer maybe she should sing something from an Italian Romantic opera not a Baroque masque
Not much wrong with her technique, though, but I still fail to see the point of the flower arranging as well. Maybe the issue is that they just didn't have the time to show the act properly, like they said.
Originally Posted by ForestChav:
“I think she ruined it. That kind of tone would be perfect for singing Aida but not Rule Britannia, written by an 18th century composer (Thomas Arne) contemporary with Handel (in fact, Susannah Cibber who sung alto in the first performance of Messiah was his sister) - if she indeed has studied singing to the extent she claims she has she would know that you do not interpret that repertoire with that thick a vibrato, for example.
Not that RB is especially difficult to ruin, but then, if she wants to sing like an opera singer maybe she should sing something from an Italian Romantic opera not a Baroque masque
Not much wrong with her technique, though, but I still fail to see the point of the flower arranging as well. Maybe the issue is that they just didn't have the time to show the act properly, like they said.”
“I think she ruined it. That kind of tone would be perfect for singing Aida but not Rule Britannia, written by an 18th century composer (Thomas Arne) contemporary with Handel (in fact, Susannah Cibber who sung alto in the first performance of Messiah was his sister) - if she indeed has studied singing to the extent she claims she has she would know that you do not interpret that repertoire with that thick a vibrato, for example.
Not that RB is especially difficult to ruin, but then, if she wants to sing like an opera singer maybe she should sing something from an Italian Romantic opera not a Baroque masque
Not much wrong with her technique, though, but I still fail to see the point of the flower arranging as well. Maybe the issue is that they just didn't have the time to show the act properly, like they said.”
Don't get me wrong I am no big fan of theirs, but he needs to be a little more diverse with his opinions. I think the X factor has taken over his brain and like others have said if it's not going to make £££ he has little interest.
Originally Posted by jules1000:
“I've always been a fan of him and liked his honesty but this series he really has shown his true colours. Downright rude to that young dancer and also the flower/opera couple who actually were extremely good. I think Piers has more class and tact than Simon and is proving to be the better judge.”
“I've always been a fan of him and liked his honesty but this series he really has shown his true colours. Downright rude to that young dancer and also the flower/opera couple who actually were extremely good. I think Piers has more class and tact than Simon and is proving to be the better judge.”
I tend to disagree all three judges are to the point useless.
Fact!! Some of the acts IE Daft Jackson, Nick Hell, Fatty Batty stripper who is on Thursday night, and the other hordes of horrendous acts which have been on display where put through by Morgan and Holden alone at the very least Cowell has spoke the truth about all the above that they had no talent whatsoever and should never have been put through as this intern prevents people that have indeed got talent.
Although Cowell predominately puts through dancers and singers because it's a safe bet that 9 times out of 10 he as a manager will intern sign them up after BGT regardless of where the act finishes, after all this is his show the only people that are taken for a ride is us the viewing public it stands to sense it's the same with the other shows his in cahoots with X-Factor American Idol. The program "Simon Cowell where did it all go right" on channel 5 explained it all very clearly essential viewing i highly recommend it
Originally Posted by jules1000:
“I've always been a fan of him and liked his honesty but this series he really has shown his true colours. Downright rude to that young dancer and also the flower/opera couple who actually were extremely good. I think Piers has more class and tact than Simon and is proving to be the better judge.”
“I've always been a fan of him and liked his honesty but this series he really has shown his true colours. Downright rude to that young dancer and also the flower/opera couple who actually were extremely good. I think Piers has more class and tact than Simon and is proving to be the better judge.”
Simon has no class? He serves up bucket loads of Butlin type acts, for a chavlike mentality that makes him money and promotes him as a so-called entertainment guru.
The flower opera couple can walk away with their heads held high that they are not part of this chavvie mentality. She does have a talent and he has creativity. Someone who does have class will pick up on that.
Leave the Stavros Flatley lovers, ie. an overweight man who cares so much for his son he cruelly allows him to make a fool out of himself in a grossly unhealthy way. Wow! A talent anyway for the Chavs in the audience and the voting public who found that funny that they wasted phone calls to encourage it.
Originally Posted by MrScrewy:
“I tend to disagree all three judges are to the point useless.
Fact!! Some of the acts IE Daft Jackson, Nick Hell, Fatty Batty stripper who is on Thursday night, and the other hordes of horrendous acts which have been on display where put through by Morgan and Holden alone at the very least Cowell has spoke the truth about all the above that they had no talent whatsoever and should never have been put through as this intern prevents people that have indeed got talent.
Although Cowell predominately puts through dancers and singers because it's a safe bet that 9 times out of 10 he as a manager will intern sign them up after BGT regardless of where the act finishes, after all this is his show the only people that are taken for a ride is us the viewing public it stands to sense it's the same with the other shows his in cahoots with X-Factor American Idol. The program "Simon Cowell where did it all go right" on channel 5 explained it all very clearly essential viewing i highly recommend it”
“I tend to disagree all three judges are to the point useless.
Fact!! Some of the acts IE Daft Jackson, Nick Hell, Fatty Batty stripper who is on Thursday night, and the other hordes of horrendous acts which have been on display where put through by Morgan and Holden alone at the very least Cowell has spoke the truth about all the above that they had no talent whatsoever and should never have been put through as this intern prevents people that have indeed got talent.
Although Cowell predominately puts through dancers and singers because it's a safe bet that 9 times out of 10 he as a manager will intern sign them up after BGT regardless of where the act finishes, after all this is his show the only people that are taken for a ride is us the viewing public it stands to sense it's the same with the other shows his in cahoots with X-Factor American Idol. The program "Simon Cowell where did it all go right" on channel 5 explained it all very clearly essential viewing i highly recommend it”
Cowell wouldn't let the others put it through if he didn't want it there. The acts are probably heavily vetted by the show even before the auditions are filmed.
The poor acts are simply there to provide something different, something they can buzz and something they can criticise in the auditions and semi finals. They knew all about Shaheen, they knew all about Andrew Johnston, they chose not to say... We saw it last year with that guy who played the star wars theme, they put him through (That was P+A wasn't it) so they could X him and laugh in the semis, he wasn't good enough but he was different and it was for entertainment, same with the human sax who was damn awful but again put through to make the ride easier for stavros and shaheen and to make some drama.
Originally Posted by jules1000:
“Don't get me wrong I am no big fan of theirs, but he needs to be a little more diverse with his opinions. I think the X factor has taken over his brain and like others have said if it's not going to make £££ he has little interest.”
“Don't get me wrong I am no big fan of theirs, but he needs to be a little more diverse with his opinions. I think the X factor has taken over his brain and like others have said if it's not going to make £££ he has little interest.”
I think the fact he is using it to get acts publicity before he signs them is pretty well established.
You can almost see the £s in his eyes as a young boy sings for example. Though I didn't with Shaheen last night but he's probably already agented through Mark Jermin and Cowell has no chance of signing him for Syco. Might explain why he didn't vote for him - or was that staged too, and he told Piers and Amanda to put him through...
I was looking earlier, and only once in the whole of BGT has the voting not been 2-1 - that was with Andrew Muir in last year's semi who they later shafted in the final with a song choice. Perhaps they should make the voting unanimous but that would have no drama, the third judge wouldn't have a casting vote and it's Cowell's show so it's his rules.
When Simon rubbished Gareth, the ventriloquist, Piers said that Simon only liked young singers. In a way that seems to true.
I hate the way that Simon doesn't appear to even be watching the acts when he himself doesn't like them. I can understand the revolting acts such as the ear dustbin swinging. But he could at least have the courtesy to watch to make a fair judgement.
I hate the way that Simon doesn't appear to even be watching the acts when he himself doesn't like them. I can understand the revolting acts such as the ear dustbin swinging. But he could at least have the courtesy to watch to make a fair judgement.
Originally Posted by MrsSpoon:
“When Simon rubbished Gareth, the ventriloquist, Piers said that Simon only liked young singers. In a way that seems to true.
I hate the way that Simon doesn't appear to even be watching the acts when he himself doesn't like them. I can understand the revolting acts such as the ear dustbin swinging. But he could at least have the courtesy to watch to make a fair judgement.”
“When Simon rubbished Gareth, the ventriloquist, Piers said that Simon only liked young singers. In a way that seems to true.
I hate the way that Simon doesn't appear to even be watching the acts when he himself doesn't like them. I can understand the revolting acts such as the ear dustbin swinging. But he could at least have the courtesy to watch to make a fair judgement.”
I guess he is more likely to be able to mould and/or manipulate a young and/or inexperienced singer than an older one.
I guess you could probably bracket Shaheen and Charlie as older singers for this purpose - as both of them presumably have agents and contacts and did when they went on BGT, he didn't put Charlie through in the semi and openly criticised him, and despite saying he would see Shaheen in the final didn't vote for him... Hmm, maybe because he isn't signable?
I notice Faryl's parents alluded to certain things when she ended up signing with UCJ as opposed to Syco.
Simon only wants to sign someone for a year or so, untill the next BGT where he signs another winner.
Acts like Ben&Becky I knew he would slate, theres nothing for him to make millions off, they can't release a CD or go worldwide, theres professional dancers (SCD) who are better than them.
Guaranteed a singer will win this year. The whole variety thing is a sham. Amandas woeful attempt at 'Stavros Flatley's variety!' didn't go down well on BGMT last night, as the acts through to the final are either singers or dancers.
Both Flawless and Diversity are genuinly good, which is why Simon cannot slate them. However, the stereotypical winner of talent shows is singers, who have an album, tours and live performances, bringing in millions to the one and only moneymaker, Simon Cowell, as he holds all rights to them for a year.
It's really a show about whos going to be the 'One hit wonder' for a year for Simon Cowell, before he drops them for next years winner.
Acts like Ben&Becky I knew he would slate, theres nothing for him to make millions off, they can't release a CD or go worldwide, theres professional dancers (SCD) who are better than them.
Guaranteed a singer will win this year. The whole variety thing is a sham. Amandas woeful attempt at 'Stavros Flatley's variety!' didn't go down well on BGMT last night, as the acts through to the final are either singers or dancers.
Both Flawless and Diversity are genuinly good, which is why Simon cannot slate them. However, the stereotypical winner of talent shows is singers, who have an album, tours and live performances, bringing in millions to the one and only moneymaker, Simon Cowell, as he holds all rights to them for a year.
It's really a show about whos going to be the 'One hit wonder' for a year for Simon Cowell, before he drops them for next years winner.
Originally Posted by Kevnaldo:
“Simon only wants to sign someone for a year or so, untill the next BGT where he signs another winner.
Acts like Ben&Becky I knew he would slate, theres nothing for him to make millions off, they can't release a CD or go worldwide, theres professional dancers (SCD) who are better than them.
Guaranteed a singer will win this year. The whole variety thing is a sham. Amandas woeful attempt at 'Stavros Flatley's variety!' didn't go down well on BGMT last night, as the acts through to the final are either singers or dancers.
Both Flawless and Diversity are genuinly good, which is why Simon cannot slate them. However, the stereotypical winner of talent shows is singers, who have an album, tours and live performances, bringing in millions to the one and only moneymaker, Simon Cowell, as he holds all rights to them for a year.
It's really a show about whos going to be the 'One hit wonder' for a year for Simon Cowell, before he drops them for next years winner.”
“Simon only wants to sign someone for a year or so, untill the next BGT where he signs another winner.
Acts like Ben&Becky I knew he would slate, theres nothing for him to make millions off, they can't release a CD or go worldwide, theres professional dancers (SCD) who are better than them.
Guaranteed a singer will win this year. The whole variety thing is a sham. Amandas woeful attempt at 'Stavros Flatley's variety!' didn't go down well on BGMT last night, as the acts through to the final are either singers or dancers.
Both Flawless and Diversity are genuinly good, which is why Simon cannot slate them. However, the stereotypical winner of talent shows is singers, who have an album, tours and live performances, bringing in millions to the one and only moneymaker, Simon Cowell, as he holds all rights to them for a year.
It's really a show about whos going to be the 'One hit wonder' for a year for Simon Cowell, before he drops them for next years winner.”
Well his strategy didn't work with Faryl did it? I guess she will be around for a long time with that voice. Only really good singers last for years. Their voice sells them not Simon Cowell's BGT.
George broke the mould then last year of the stereo typical talent show winner.
Originally Posted by Kevnaldo:
“Simon only wants to sign someone for a year or so, untill the next BGT where he signs another winner.
Acts like Ben&Becky I knew he would slate, theres nothing for him to make millions off, they can't release a CD or go worldwide, theres professional dancers (SCD) who are better than them.
Guaranteed a singer will win this year. The whole variety thing is a sham. Amandas woeful attempt at 'Stavros Flatley's variety!' didn't go down well on BGMT last night, as the acts through to the final are either singers or dancers.
Both Flawless and Diversity are genuinly good, which is why Simon cannot slate them. However, the stereotypical winner of talent shows is singers, who have an album, tours and live performances, bringing in millions to the one and only moneymaker, Simon Cowell, as he holds all rights to them for a year.
It's really a show about whos going to be the 'One hit wonder' for a year for Simon Cowell, before he drops them for next years winner.”
“Simon only wants to sign someone for a year or so, untill the next BGT where he signs another winner.
Acts like Ben&Becky I knew he would slate, theres nothing for him to make millions off, they can't release a CD or go worldwide, theres professional dancers (SCD) who are better than them.
Guaranteed a singer will win this year. The whole variety thing is a sham. Amandas woeful attempt at 'Stavros Flatley's variety!' didn't go down well on BGMT last night, as the acts through to the final are either singers or dancers.
Both Flawless and Diversity are genuinly good, which is why Simon cannot slate them. However, the stereotypical winner of talent shows is singers, who have an album, tours and live performances, bringing in millions to the one and only moneymaker, Simon Cowell, as he holds all rights to them for a year.
It's really a show about whos going to be the 'One hit wonder' for a year for Simon Cowell, before he drops them for next years winner.”
Yes totally agree with you, however all the choices made for this years semi finals have been buzzed or booed . There were picked by the Judges to go through??? Why buzz on the semi finals at least let them finish their act.
It is becoming apparent that this is yet another X factor just wearing a different hat.
