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How many times can Lorraine play the Cassandra card? |
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Her problem is that she cannot influence and persuade, which is fatal for a leader. Others may have shouted, but have actually won people over by enthusiasm and persuasion. Once the decision is made, you must get on with it, but gives out a negative vibe. People ignore her for that reason - and her "accurate predictions" have done her no good. Actually, she was wrong about the dinosaur in the current climate - too expensive for an impulse buy, which is what most of that TV selling is about.
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She was spot on about the rug during the selling task though and got a load of grief from Philip for her troubles so I don't think it's fair that she's only adamant when she's late - she was very persistent with the rug IIRC.
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Well, Margaret (who initially gave Lorraine the Cassandra tag) more or less admitted on You've Been Fired tonight that she'd got it wrong. She said Lorraine was not only a slow burner, but that she doubted if her flame was lit at all.
... all of which leads me to believe that Lorraine will not make it through the interview stage. She has some good qualities that can be overlooked, but she is too defensive and is not a good team player, and I think she should go in the next episode. |
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I'll be very surprised if Lorraine makes it into the final regardless. Only two places - I can't see SAS picking her over other people.
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Well, Margaret (who initially gave Lorraine the Cassandra tag) more or less admitted on You've Been Fired tonight that she'd got it wrong. She said Lorraine was not only a slow burner, but that she doubted if her flame was lit at all.
... all of which leads me to believe that Lorraine will not make it through the interview stage. She has some good qualities that can be overlooked, but she is too defensive and is not a good team player, and I think she should go in the next episode. I think lorraine has been very clever at agreeing at the time when they are all under pressure and then the game plan is pointing out (if it goes wrong - what else would have worked) and she starts with - we should have done this or that to cover herself not a team player at all poor howard took the fall for her as he was trying to cover her back he should have doubled with kate and let her fail |
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I don't think she is. On the contrary, a big part of her problem is that she's not afraid to criticise the idea the team is committed to, even though it's now too late to do anything about it.
I think she lacks confidence in her ideas, and that's because she isn't very analytical and so can't find the arguments to back them up. Which also means she is sometimes wrong. The only way out of that would be to become very useful to everyone but she's not that credible at that as she doesn't do anything as well as most people there. They don't trust her to do anything else so they don't listen to her. On top of that she hasn't got a repetition for being right enough of the time for anyone to think her advice worth seeking. She hasn't got the right environment to do what the smart quieter person can do which is to become indispensible by being reliably right and being ahead of the game and getting the argument over. Whilst its true that she's made some correct calls many have been wrong and on many tasks its been more luck than judgement which option has been the right one anyway. Being certain when the issue wasn't clear anyway has been more of a problem than an advantage. Essentially she's not forceful enough and doesn't look like a successful leader and she's not smart enough, articulate enough or right often enough to be the team guru. Meanwhile the other apprentices go on having bigger lows and bigger highs around her which just must add to her frustration. |
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saw that
I think lorraine has been very clever at agreeing at the time when they are all under pressure and then the game plan is pointing out (if it goes wrong - what else would have worked) and she starts with - we should have done this or that to cover herself not a team player at all poor howard took the fall for her as he was trying to cover her back he should have doubled with kate and let her fail Howard is too similar to Tim IMO to win TA, competent but not sparkling, easy to mould and develop; someone different is needed. Lorraine has little credibility with the other apprentices, as others have said she is in a no win situation now. Yasmina was particularly unfair to her on the Margate task about her opinion on the adverts after asking for opinions. Again, we are back to editing and how much do we see or how accurately does it reflect what actually happened or what makes for best viewing with 'goodies' and 'baddies'? ETA. A product that did not make the show, practice run with Lorraine struggling, Howard talking over a cleaner: http://www.bbc.co.uk/apprentice/epis...m_200183.shtml |
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Was it just me or was the "innovative" dinosaur toy simply a reworking of Furbys which came out a decade ago? They died a death so why would anyone want them now? Howard made a good point that they cost the same as a Wii and several games.
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But they would have fared no worse by replacing the craft set with the dinosaur (even if it didn't sell). It was worth the gamble but Howard played it too safe.
Loved Margaret's comment about Lorraine's "slow burning" though - "sometimes I wonder if the gas is even lit at all!" - had me in stiches!
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