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Susan should be kicked out if she's a problem!!!
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Mijath
28-05-2009
What exactly has she done?

Did she shout "**** off" in response to Piers' praise of Shaneen? Because surely most sane people did.
Callous
28-05-2009
Originally Posted by SULLA:
“At the auditions she had a certain image. Her recent antics have lost her that image and possibly cost her the win.

I get the impression that Cowell & Co are reluctant to give her good advisors”

Cowell and co are probably the ones creating and leaking these stories ...and making sure they get mainstream press attention.

What better way to ensure more viewers, more votes and more hype than to bring down the certain favourite to make it look like a contest again instead of a foregone conclusion.

Cowell and co created the worldwide hype for Su-Bo...now they are probably manipulating the backlash. The press collude with it...and the public fall for it.
milly
28-05-2009
Originally Posted by Mijath:
“What exactly has she done?

Did she shout "**** off" in response to Piers' praise of Shaneen? Because surely most sane people did.”

I did lol.
rapier999
28-05-2009
Originally Posted by Callous:
“Cowell and co are probably the ones creating and leaking these stories ...and making sure they get mainstream press attention.

What better way to ensure more viewers, more votes and more hype than to bring down the certain favourite to make it look like a contest again instead of a foregone conclusion.

Cowell and co created the worldwide hype for Su-Bo...now they are probably manipulating the backlash. The press collude with it...and the public fall for it.”

The photos are in The Star and The Sun.

http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage...ot-Talent.html

http://www.dailystar.co.uk/news/view...r-letter-rant/
Callous
28-05-2009
Originally Posted by rapier999:
“The photos are in The Star and The Sun.”

I'm sure they are....but that's not to say she wasn't set-up...or the press were not leaked a specific version of events.

Seems pretty suspect that we have 3 days of very negative Su-Bo stories just before the final.
milly
28-05-2009
Originally Posted by rapier999:
“The photos are in The Star and The Sun.

http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage...ot-Talent.html

http://www.dailystar.co.uk/news/view...r-letter-rant/”

Duff Links..
rapier999
28-05-2009
Originally Posted by milly:
“Duff Links..”

Susan must be on to me
milly
28-05-2009
Originally Posted by rapier999:
“Susan must be on to me ”

rapier999
28-05-2009
I do wish i could say goodnight to people on here sometimes.
JTW
28-05-2009
Originally Posted by Callous:
“I'm sure they are....but that's not to say she wasn't set-up...or the press were not leaked a specific version of events.

Seems pretty suspect that we have 3 days of very negative Su-Bo stories just before the final.”

We've seen all this before. We get the hype and then the downfall.

However, what I really dislike about the press, is that they go beyond the pale when they lay into someone who hasn't the nous to take them on. And in fact, in this case, it seems to me like clear antagonism and goading a reaction.

That's bang out of order and below the belt IMO.
ForestChav
28-05-2009
Originally Posted by Mijath:
“What exactly has she done?

Did she shout "**** off" in response to Piers' praise of Shaneen? Because surely most sane people did.”

I expected better but when I heard him speak I understood the issue... vocal fatigue (for whatever reason).
SULLA
28-05-2009
Originally Posted by evesapples131:
“I don't tnink you should take the papers so seriously, I only believe what I see. Which is a sweet lady, full of confidence, beautiful voice. Only when she starts f-ing and blinding on TV for everyone to actually witness can we believe that, until then is isn't worth the paper it's written on.”

Originally Posted by C14E:
“We don't know if any of her "antics" are actually true. Everyone is taking The Sun at face value for some reason. It's amazing that on a forum filled with people who are immensely supicious of every move this show makes that they swallow up what's in The Sun.

For all people say that the show has an agenda, this forum has one as well. And it's very much anti-Susan just now.”

I am basing my views on what I have actually seen. This stupid wiggling she does is NOT good for her image.
Masie
28-05-2009
Originally Posted by rapier999:
“I'm tired of hearing about her learning difficulties. She was able to enter the competition in the first place wasn't she?

If she is causing problems in the Hotel then she should go like anyone would have to.

If she can't handle the pressure then why doesn't she just walk?”

Where did you read this?
rapier999
28-05-2009
Originally Posted by Masie:
“Where did you read this?”

Have you been living in a cave? Try the media and then read the forum for starters.
Eye Sea
28-05-2009
Yer, kick her off now, and put her in chains! Boo.

grimtales1
28-05-2009
If she said some of these things, why isn't there an advisor to make sure she can control herself? (Not saying they're true). But she may not be fully in control or able to understand her actions. I can understand the "I'm from Barcelona" impression, now to some that may not be funny, but I think Susan was trying to be funny to compensate for her own insecurity/whatever. As someone with mild Aspergers traits, I can perhaps identify with Susan not being fully aware of social nuances.
Liz G-S
28-05-2009
I think she was trying to compensate for her nerves by attempting to be funny, a lot of people do it with varying success. Here is what Piers has to say about it, apparently Susan is finding it very difficult to cope with the pressure and now the negativity and has even considered quitting:
http://www.officialpiersmorgan.com/2...f-susan-boyle/
Bob Brunning
28-05-2009
Thank you for posting that link Liz G-S.


PLEASE start a new thread to ensure as many people as possible read that excellent article.
Doc Shmok
28-05-2009
Originally Posted by Liz G-S:
“http://www.officialpiersmorgan.com/2...f-susan-boyle/”

Quite astonishing .. I totally agree but wouldn't have PM stick up for her like that.


Quote:
“200 million people have now watched her YouTube clip, more than any other clip in history, and she is a household name from Russia to China, Australia to Africa.
Becoming the biggest star on the planet so fast is a scary, unsettling, upsetting thing, as Susan has discovered.
Let the increasingly unpleasant bitching and carping stop, right now. Please. She doesn’t deserve it.”


skhwoody
28-05-2009
I don't agree she should be kicked off the competition just because of a supposed rant, and she is splitting opinion due to the fact she appears to be the odds on favourite of the show, i personally do not rate her or see the outstanding clamour about her, but then that is my personal opinion and does not make me right or wrong about her.

I hope she does well and enjoys her experience on the final, however the only thing i have an issue with - and this goes for all contestants really - is the manipulation of the contestants for column inches.

Take for example Susan Boyle's appearance on the semi final, you can not tell me that the image of the light around her head as if a halo was unexepcted, her singing began terribly (probably nerves), but in her defence finished quite well. I still cannot shake the niggling feeling that if she had done an ali-g style rap she would have still have won due to the manipulation of the media, which to me undermines for me the actual real talent in the show. If she was an attactive blond or dark haired lad she would be looked upon the same as the postman and would not have got anywhere near the semi finals.... however it seems these shows quite obviosuly now are actively on the lookout for the poster girl/boy to hang the show on and this year it has been her.

I do not agree with the nastiness now creeping up against her, but then again i see the adulation she is been lavished with just as creepy.

(all my own personal opinion obviously)
noorani
28-05-2009
How can anyone be saying she had a 'rant', when no one knows what was said to her in the first place? I read somewhere it was a reporter that set her off, so where is the report of what he said, not just what she said?

Sounds to me like its a case of someone baiting her to try and set her off more than anything else, and she has the guts and the balls to defend herself.
rapier999
28-05-2009
Originally Posted by Liz G-S:
“I think she was trying to compensate for her nerves by attempting to be funny, a lot of people do it with varying success. Here is what Piers has to say about it, apparently Susan is finding it very difficult to cope with the pressure and now the negativity and has even considered quitting:
http://www.officialpiersmorgan.com/2...f-susan-boyle/”

Enough to melt the coldest of hearts but not mine i'm afraid. To me it's yet another attempt to make sure this 2nd rate singer wins the show. Nobody is forcing this woman to take part in the competition afterall.

I find it nauseating that Piers criticises the press,an organisation he was part of for many years. I don't recall him being too concerned about destroying peoples lives when he was the Editor of 2 trashy tabloids. Far from it!

He talks about giving her a break but what about the way he ripped into Nick Hell in the semi's,i suppose this is totally acceptable ? Different acts but slight bias towards Susan again.

I will stick to my own opinion about tis 2nd rate singer and Piers can stick to his own. Although trust me on this one as i am right!
Doc Shmok
28-05-2009
Well huge audience huge earning potential. More botox for certain judges
johartuk
28-05-2009
Originally Posted by AnthonyJohn:
“Here we go all over again people trying to bully Susan Boyle off the show just like they did with John Sergeant.


Well said evesapples131.”

OK. So if the whole BGT experience is upsetting Susan, do you think it's fair (or good for her well-being) for it to continue? Would you be happy to see Susan go into total meltdown on live TV on Saturday? I know I wouldn't!

Clearly the BGT peeps don't give a damn about her, which is a shame! They built her up to ridiculous levels and have put her under the kind of pressure she should never have had to endure!

As far as I can see, she's being treated by the public and the media exactly the same as anyone in the public eye would be treated. It's not always fair (we know how nasty the media can be, and the public, come to that), but it's par for the course. If Susan really can't cope, then the kindest thing would be for her to leave the show.
comedy89
28-05-2009
You cant kick someone out just because they have learning difficulties we are not in the 1950's anymore, there is such a thing as equal oppurtunities.
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